mattyice318 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Wow I like this. I don't love it, I don't dislike it. Rakim on this song is crazy, I wish his vocals were louder honestly. Something seems off with the piano intro. Other than that I'm happy with Chesters vocals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonYancar Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Hi, sorry to be a total dunce but could you explain that more please, what do you mean by crushed and what does that do to the song? I'm not a musician in anyway but still interested to hear/learn about it. Thank you! I mean "crushed" as in it's so "loud" that it "clips" the audio and it starts distorting from using compressors/limiters while in the mastering stage. When you compress, you lose dynamics and typically sound quality, but you are able to make the song louder and more in you face without having the listener having to manually turn up the volume. Everything is so loud in the mix you can barely hear the bass line, but it isn't terrible. It compliments some parts of the song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jani Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 http://news.radio.com/2014/03/05/linkin-pa...same-interview/ The video doesn't play for me. wtf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearOfTheDuck Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 The over-compression doesn't surprise me at all, it's been a problem on the last couple of albums. I don't think it affects this song too much, as there's not much in the way of dynamics. It's not nearly at Death Magnetic levels of terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 The over-compression doesn't surprise me at all, it's been a problem on the last couple of albums. I don't think it affects this song too much, as there's not much in the way of dynamics. It's not nearly at Death Magnetic levels of terrible. It's funny because honestly this song reminds me A LOT of Metallica. I can see how some people say it reminds them on A7X, but honestly, it reminds me more of Metallica for some reason. Not that it's a bad thing, Metallica is fucking awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coizu Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 The video doesn't play for me. wtf. I had to disable my add blocker and Ghostery. The amount of 3rd party scripts on that site is horrible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckCheese Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Gotta agree with Mark on this; Chester most likely sounds the way he does on this song because his voiced hasn't been auto tuned and processed as much as usual for LP. Mike is all over this thing production wise. And I'm pretty positive this quote from his blog: "this album has been the product of a mix of focused experimentation and free form jamming. We’re even tracking parts to tape instead of going exclusively digital." says a lot about why this song sounds the way it does. I personally really fucking dig this song, it shits all over Living Things and of course isn't going to be the best off the record. This is a great preview of whats to come. I love this heavier, crunchier sound. Mike was not fucking around when he said he wants rock to be carnivorous again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticXero Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 there's definitely a radio version of the song, just heard it on German radio (1Live) shorter intro, no Rakim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasputin 93 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 so we need the Radio Edit now! ^^ love how fast we can get a release of 2 different versions of the same song in just a half day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution1985 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Love love love this track. Glad to see Brad is still a member of LP. It will be exciting to see them all actually playing instruments and rocking out on stage. When is this coming out on iTunes?! I need it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesck547 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 The song is hitting the radio today. Hopefully it means iTunes release as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 iTunes tonight says Adam. "All caps everything" is over. Back to normal capitalization. Guilty All The Same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 "All caps everything" is over. Back to normal capitalization. Guilty All The Same. This is the greatest day ever. Finally. Changing back all of my LT and LT related stuff back to no caps, I don't see the point in having only one album (two if you count Recharged) in all caps in my music library. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearOfTheDuck Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 It's funny because honestly this song reminds me A LOT of Metallica. I can see how some people say it reminds them on A7X, but honestly, it reminds me more of Metallica for some reason. Not that it's a bad thing, Metallica is fucking awesome.Well A7X take a lot of influence from Metallica, so it's all swings and roundabouts. Only just related, but amusing all the same: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirstie Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I mean "crushed" as in it's so "loud" that it "clips" the audio and it starts distorting from using compressors/limiters while in the mastering stage. When you compress, you lose dynamics and typically sound quality, but you are able to make the song louder and more in you face without having the listener having to manually turn up the volume. Everything is so loud in the mix you can barely hear the bass line, but it isn't terrible. It compliments some parts of the song. Thank you for explaining! On an unrelated note: clearly Mike's look for this album is maroon hoodies and backwards caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jani Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Just heard the radio edit version, no Rakim in it. I'm curious if Rakim will be on the music video when it comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stich Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 so we need the Radio Edit now! ^^ love how fast we can get a release of 2 different versions of the same song in just a half day! here's the radio edit - http://q103albany.com/world-premiere-linki...y-all-the-same/which, surpisingly, I like it better It's far more cohesive and without Rakim part, that for me doesn't sound well with a metal-ish song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesck547 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 here's the radio edit - http://q103albany.com/world-premiere-linki...y-all-the-same/ which, surpisingly, I like it better It's far more cohesive and without Rakim part, that for me doesn't sound well with a metal-ish song I don't think so. I really like Rakim's part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranger Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Rakim's verse is dope but for radio station to play it, quite long. for music video, hopefully they did it with Rakim's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedamian58c Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Amazing, so dark. I would prefer Mike's rap over Rakim's rap here. I kind of miss Chester's screams. Finally their music have real guitar and drum lines. Now they use guitar for something more than just riffs. Drums goes much faster, much more use of snare and bass drum, much oftener cymbal hits than usually. The preview sucks if we compare it to the song. When I watched the preview I was a bit afraid that there will be no electronic sounds in the song, but hopefully they was there. I think that instrumentally everything got improved. I wonder how it gonna be played live, there's both "Mike instruments" playing, "second most important" or rhythm guitar and piano/synthesizer. And....One thing, I don't know why, this song reminds me of Across The Line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXoBlackOut Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I believe Rakim makes the track special and stand out. Therefor I am stad to hear it may be cut out in other versions or the video. Really LOVE the rap part and Chester's lyrics are not that much so yeah for Rakim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subs Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I believe Rakim makes the track special and stand out. Therefor I am stad to hear it may be cut out in other versions or the video. Really LOVE the rap part and Chester's lyrics are not that much so yeah for Rakim. Thats my biggest problem with LP. The lyrics. Always the words ' lies ' ' inside' etc But then they write something like the chorus to W&K, which to me was mindblowing. I wish lyrically they wuld progress a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftshoe18 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Legit metal riffing, raw vocals, 6 minutes, a guitar solo...yet it still sounds unmistakably like Linkin Park. I love this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPPanther Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Astat covered the guitar and mix aspects of this song well but let me clarify a few things on Chester's vocals. As Mark said earlier, we are used to hearing Chester's vocals be pitch corrected. (Not sure what you meant by "layers" Mark, AutoTune and Melodyne simply shift pitches up or down to be perfectly on the correct note). Now I don't believe they do as much to his vocals as a lot of singers out there but there is something else that is clearly not on the vocal track and that is reverb/delay. Ever wonder why you sound way better when you sing in the shower? It's because the early reflections coming off the tile in a small enclosed space cover up the little inconsistencies in your voice. That's basically reverb. Most vocals have at least a little bit of reverb and often a bit of slap delay as well to create a fuller spacier sound. I hear neither on this song. And I prefer it that way if the goal was to have a raw, natural sounding mix. I expect Chester to be able to NAIL this song live because he doesn't have to try to match an overproduced pitch corrected album track. I'm interested to hear the mix on the rest of this album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiiesel Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 One thing, I don't know why, this song reminds me of Across The Line. You are probably refering to the intro of the unmastered demo of ATL. Sounds similar to me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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