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That's just Chester making moaning noises, he did that many times at live shows in the 2000-2002 period.

Idea for B-sides from the new album: Release them.

Well damn, there goes Julien-K's only talented vocalist... No it does not. If they're still on good terms with each other, I don't see why he wouldn't come back to perform with DBS in the future. It's not like they'd be cutting him out of the creative process, as all of DBS's material was written by Chester/Ryan/Amir/Fu, and Elias and Brandon were essentially just hired guns used to fill out the live band. The only reason Brandon wouldn't come back to DBS is if he's genuinely pissed off at his former Julien-K bandmates for whatever reason and doesn't want to, because he left by his own choosing, he wasn't fired.

You mean one of the most pathetic moments in the history of the LP community? Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, hopefully we never get our hands on this kind of stuff. That would be absolutely TERRIBLE. As far as I'm concerned, if someone is deemed important enough to be one of the few people to have a copy of something like this, the possibility of them selling it years down the road is a risk the label should assume. This is no more of a violation of intellectual property than me second-hand selling a CD to a used record store. The material contained within is much harder to find, but it wouldn't get any kind of special treatment from the legal system if this was ever taken to court. Price is ridiculous though. I'm positive it's not. If someone was going to make a fake of something like this, we would've seen it pop up years ago. Fakes = relevant to what's current (bootleg copies of recently-released CDs) or what has a large potential market (fake HTEPs). This is such a niche thing, there are maybe a handful of people who would even bid on it.

None of the tribute albums are "official" as far as having involvement with the band, but they're all licensed.

I'd say a summer PR in 2011 is pretty much a given, it's just way too early to speculate about it. They'll probably announce it in April/May.

Best fake LP song fail ever: Someone trying to pass off the demo version of Headstrong as a "cover version by Xero." Nevermind the fact that Xero ceased to exist several years before the song was even written.

That was at the Detroit show on Projekt Revolution 2002, I'm not sure if Eminem was actually among them, but some of the members of D12 came out on One Step Closer.

All the live string parts on the albums? Last time I checked, LP didn't have a string section on stage with them... If it's not played by guitar, bass, drums, keyboards, a turntable, or MIDI pads, they use a backing track for it. The most common ones are songs with intros that start while the band isn't on stage, either as the show intro or coming out of the encore. No More Sorrow long intro/One Step Closer extended intro, What I've Done AMBO intro, they have live instruments that come in later but the beginnings of them are all pre-recorded backing tracks. The KRWLNG intro is all pre-recorded except for when Mike raps or plays keys over it. On The Little Things Give You Away, Joe isn't even on stage, Mike literally hits "play" on his keyboard and the backing track of the samples and strings starts. The live versions of Cure for the Itch and Session are almost entirely pre-recorded, the only live part of them is Joe's scratching.

Here's the original Garage Band sample: Believe_Me_sample.mp3 I believe it's a stock loop under the name "Orchestral Strings 08" or something like that.

Most of them have honestly been around for way longer than LPL has. I remember the info about the Rob track with Dan the Automator and the Chester track with the Visionaries being on sites like Forfeit the Game and Pushmeaway as far back as like 2003. The Head Like a Hole collab on Korn Kovers got a lot of press when it was first announced, the U2 remix Mike did was mentioned in a lot of the pre-release press for the Fort Minor project, Ryu told us about the alternate version of Wth>You (although he's said he also recorded verses for like 3 other Reanimation songs at various points, so I think he might not even remember which songs he actually worked on, lol), and the verse on the Whoo Kid mixtape was mentioned in one of Mike's posts on the old Fort Minor messageboards. Yeah, I seem to recall the Humble Brothers being known for working some rather obscure samples into their songs, so I wouldn't doubt it. Also, I doubt the Pokemon movie is the source of that sound either, I swear I've heard it in a couple other commericals/TV shows and stuff like that. It's probably a royalty-free sample that's included in some audio program, kind of like the sample in Believe Me that's a stock sample from Garage Band.

I'm also gonna merge these two topics together, sorry it looks kinda weird chronologically but we really don't need a topic in Site Discussion and a topic in General LP Discussion about the same thing.

It's the quick little whirring noise that's substantially louder than everything else about 14-15 seconds into the song. I forget where it appears in the movie, I think it's in one of the fight scenes with Mewtwo but I might be wrong.

Nope, I'm with you. Chester's voice would be very well-suited for Fortunate Son. But Chester singing ANY classic rock song generally = epic win.

Another random observation: The Catalyst is the name of a club in Santa Cruz, California (I just happen to have a video of Buckethead playing there in my Youtube favorites). While I'm sure the whole album/song title theory has a lot more cred, I thought I'd throw the possibility of a secret show out there.

"The Catalyst" and "A Thousand Suns" could both be song titles, one could be a song title and the other could be the album title, who knows. Mike said this one would be easier, but I still think there's more to it than that. An interesting point of observation, the software that LP's giant LED video screens run on at shows is called Catalyst (or at least that's what they were using as of 2004): http://livedesignonline.com/mag/lighting_walk_linkin_park/ Anyway, if I had to make a guess, I'd say that these lyrics are probably from a song that didn't make the cut, and they just decided to use them for this puzzle. I highly doubt they'd be giving away half a song's worth of lyrics before we've even heard a 10-second clip of the first single. No he doesn't...he has one called Catharsis. I'm about 99.9999999% sure it IS a coincidence. It's not like Linkin Park was unaware of who Robert Oppenheimer was before Chester's stalker came along. I also doubt the guys in the band bothered to look up when Sandia opened and who built it, it was probably just "that place Chester's stalker worked at" to them.

What else would they have used...? They had a drummer, a DJ, and a trio of string players for a live band. Where else would all the guitar, bass, keyboards, etc. come from? Linkin Park has always used backing tracks too.

If A.06 was a demo for Hit the Floor, or any other song for that matter, it would've been listed as such on the LPU 9 tracklisting. The short instrumental version of Stick and Move that appears on LPU9 has even less in common with Runaway than the original Xero version, but they called it a Runaway demo anyway.

Take Ntr/Mssion and Faint off the list, and that's it. Ntr/Mssion is all piano, I think the liner notes on that were just copy-pasted from Opening. There's a quote from Mike in the From the Inside book (I think?) mentioning something about strings on BTH and Faint, but if they recorded them for Faint, they ended up not using them, the ones that appear on the album are programmed. Also, The Rising Tied had live strings on Remember the Name, Feel Like Home, Cigarettes, and Slip Out the Back.

I'll go ahead and predict New Divide, just because it'd be something different. They'll probably have a new song that they use as an opener at some point too. If they go with the rotating setlists right off the bat with the first shows, I'll say New Divide/New Song/One Step Closer will be the 3 openers.

I'm referring to an official release, which never took place for that song. All rips you find of it come from the Grammy TV broadcast.

Uhh...YAWN.

http://www.exhibit24.net/net2.htm - Check the left side of the page, I'm in there among the "A" names. Following an ARG is fun, being included as part of it is even more fun!

Hmm...I'm grasping at straws here, but what if the translation of the binary code is (mostly) irrelevant to the puzzle itself? Look at the image again: http://static.ning.com/linkinparknetwork/img/image001.jpg Why is the image skewed to one side like that? Why does the background of the image have "static" in it? Why is the last string of characters so short? With all the different options in fonts/spacing/text size out there, it's not like it would have been hard to get the string of 1s and 0s to form a perfect block of text. Why are there so many visual patterns in the text itself? In particular, the 1s form several obvious diagonal lines in the image, I've crudely drawn a few of them in Paint to better show what I mean: Is there more significance to this image than the binary code alone? And I'm still trying to figure out what we're supposed to Google, Mike obviously linked us to Google for a reason. I tried searching for the first few characters of the code, but nothing turns up once you get past about 8 digits. I also searched for various portions of the translated text, and didn't spot anything out of the ordinary.

*shrug* Most likely scenario is Warner would've rushed them back into the studio to attempt to churn out another album, in a classic example of "throw shit at the wall and hope something sticks." We probably would've gotten a 3rd album a lot sooner, but it probably wouldn't have been any good.