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I kind of agree with Mark on this one, Bleed it Out works best as the last song before the encore IMO. When you take a song that's that short and extend it to roughly 8 minutes with a drum solo and at least one, sometimes TWO extended outros, the energy tends to die off before the song ends, or at least have lulls in it. Faint and OSC do much better jobs as closers because they're both high-energy and get the point across in 5 minutes or less. That's also why I always thought Breaking the Habit was a horrible choice as a closer for the Japan shows in 2006, particularly with the extended piano/vocal outro, and PMA piano right before it. I think BIO works as a closer in certain situations, it comes across a lot better IMO when they put Rob's drum solo at the beginning and don't use the slow>fast additional outro. The time from the start of the guitar intro to the end of the song really doesn't need to be more than 4 and a half minutes.
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The Catalyst Debuts at No. 35 on Billboard Hot 100
Astat replied to HybridThe0ry97's topic in Newswire
Those were their debut positions. Also, you have to put it in perspective - #35 may be "bad" compared to What I've Done and New Divide's top 10 debuts, BUT, LP's singles rarely do very well their first week. In fact, The Catalyst is LP's third-highest charting single in terms of debuts. Somewhere I Belong debuted at #47, and that was actually the band's highest-charting debut until What I've Done came out, and then New Divide subsequently beat it by one spot when it debuted. Not a bad debut whatsoever when you look at the band's entire history. -
A/B this video with the final version of The Catalyst and listen to how out of tune Chester is, then get back to me on that. Mike: "That's it...it's good...okay! Just needs editing, and it's in the can." Translation: "Once I pitch-correct all the out of tune notes Chester hit, this will sound awesome!" Yeah, sure, this was at Mike's home studio and the vocals could've been redone later at NRG, or the takes we hear Chester singing in the video may not be the same ones Mike ended up keeping, or whatever...but I really doubt Chester just magically gained perfect pitch while the camera wasn't rolling. The dozens of live recordings from the past 3 and a half years are enough evidence to back that up. As long as Chester is still physically capable of singing (i.e. doesn't blow out his vocal chords), they'll always be able to make him sound good in the studio. If anything, this video is an indication of what kind of performance we should expect from Chester when they perform this song live. And with that said, I'm sticking by my prediction of this song falling way short in the vocal department once it debuts on stage.
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I'm pretty much indifferent.
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Current top 40 on the Billboard Hot 100: 1. Eminem feat. Rhianna - Love the Way You Lie 2. Katy Perry feat. Snoop Dogg - California Gurls 3. Taio Cruz - Dynamite 4. B.o.B. feat. Hayley Williams - Airplanes 5. Enrique Iglesias feat. Pitbull - I Like It 6. Mike Posner - Cooler Than Me 7. Katy Perry - Teenage Dream 8. Travie McCoy feat. Bruno Mars - Billionare 9. Usher feat. Pitbull - DJ Got Us Fallin' in Love 10. Usher feat. will.i.am - OMG 11. Jason Derulo - Ridin' Solo 12. Drake - Find Your Love 13. Eminem - Not Afraid 14. Nicki Minaj - Your Love 15. La Roux - Bulletproof 16. Train - Hey, Soul Sister 17. Shontelle - Impossible 18. Maroon 5 - Misery 19. Taio Cruz feat. Ludacris - Break Your Heart 20. Sugarland - Stuck Like Glue 21. Lady Gaga - Alejandro 22. B.o.B. feat. Rivers Cuomo - Magic 23. Ke$ha - Your Love is My Drug 24. 3OH!3 feat. Ke$ha - My First Kiss 25. Usher - There Goes My Baby 26. Carrie Underwood - Undo It 27. Lady Antebellum - Need You Now 28. Paramore - The Only Exception 29. Jerrod Niemann - Lover, Lover 30. Alicia Keys - Un-Thinkable (I'm Ready) 31. Uncle Kracker - Smile 32. David Guetta & Chris Willis feat. Fergie & LMFAO - Gettin' Over You 33. Flo Rida feat. David Guetta - Club Can't Handle Me 34. Zac Brown Band - Free 35. Soulja Boy Tell'em - Pretty Boy Swag 36. Bruno Mars - Just the Way You Are 37. Cali Swag District - Teach Me How to Dougie 38. T.I. feat. Keri Hilson - Got Your Back 39. The Script - Breakeven 40. Selena Gomez & The Scene - Round & Round Tell me, oh guru of all musical knowledge, where does Linkin Park fit in with that group of artists? Paramore is the only rock-oriented track on that list, and they cater to an entirely different audience than LP does. Oh, and for the record, LP has had 8 top 40 singles in their career, and 5 of them were BEFORE Minutes to Midnight. Just for shits and giggles, let's take a look at the top 10 on the Billboard charts from October 21st, 2000, the week Hybrid Theory came out (I'd post the full top 40 but Billboard's archives only show the top 10): 1. Christina Aguilera - Come On Over Baby (All I Want is You) 2. Madonna - Music 3. Creed - With Arms Wide Open 4. 3 Doors Down - Kryptonite 5. Pink - Most Girls 6. 98 Degrees - Just Give Me One Night (Una Noche) 7. Destiny's Child - Jumpin', Jumpin' 8. Janet Jackson - Doesn't Really Matter 9. Erykah Badu - Bag Lady 10. Sisqo - Incomplete Hmm...interesting, Creed and 3 Doors Down, 2 bands that very much fit in with the alternative/"nu metal" genre that LP was also a part of at the time, occupied 2 of the top 5 spots! In fact, With Arms Wide Open went on to become a #1 single a couple weeks later. Now call me crazy, but I would think that having 2 alternative rock artists in the top 5, let alone the top 40, would indicate that Linkin Park's musical style in 2000 was much more consistent with the type of music that topped the charts at that time than their current musical style is with the type of music that tops the charts today. You have proven time and time again to have absolutely no clue what you're talking about when you make your ridiculous comments, yet you keep coming back for more. It's quite sad to see. But then again, it provides plenty of entertainment for the rest of us, so by all means, keep plugging away at...whatever it is you're attempting to accomplish by bad-mouthing everything Linkin Park has done for the last 3 and a half years. Uhh...no. Just no. The Catalyst is WAY more of a rock song than Breaking the Habit was, yet I didn't see you complaining when that one went to #1 on the U.S. Mainstream Rock chart. At least The Catalyst has some distorted guitar in it...
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I'm sure they'll have some of the backing track stuff pre-recorded and triggered from Mike's keyboard (they do the same on TLTGYA) so Joe won't end up over-worked. Rob will probably play some of the sampled drum stuff using the trigger pads on his kit too, since the real drum part doesn't come in until almost 4 minutes into the song. Instrumentally, I don't see this song being a problem for them. I just think the vocal parts are going to end up falling into the same category as Hands Held High and the outro to TLTGYA.
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I'll be brutally honest...I think this song is going to fail spectacularly live. Unless Mike's gotten some vocal coaching or really worked hard on his singing lately, the parts he sings alone are going to sound very weak, I doubt they'll give the rest of the band microphones to do the gang vocals (not that it would sound good if they did anyway), and the ending will be just like The Little Things Give You Away - no feasible way for them to reproduce the vocal layering live.
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The radio edit is most likely this: Mike said the radio edit is "4-something" in length in his last UStream chat, so I'd be surprised if that's not it.
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I think this has a lot of potential. I know Michael Buble probably isn't all that popular with the LP fanbase, but if you're into classic "crooner" style singers like Frank Sinatra or Bing Crosby, Michael Buble is kind of resurrecting that style. I think he's pretty cool.
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Their one gig was actually at the Whisky-a-Go-Go in Los Angeles.
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Linkin Park - "The Catalyst" with lyrics video.
Astat replied to lerkid's topic in Everything Linkin Park
Uhh...the video's still there...? -
PTS.OF.ATHRTY > Points of Authority In The End > ENTH E ND Forgotten > FRGT/10 P5HNG ME A*WY > Pushing me Away A Place for my Head > PLC.4 MIE HAED High Voltage (Remix) > High Voltage (Original) > H! VLTG3 WTH>YOU = With You Papercut > PPR:KUT RNW@Y = Runaway My December > MY{DSMBR BY_MYSLF > By Myself KYUR 4 TH ICH > Cure for the Itch 1STP KLOSR > One Step Closer KRWLNG > Crawling I thought Reanimation was an overall improvement on Hybrid Theory as soon as it came out, and I still think to this day it's the band's greatest work. I'm looking forward to seeing if ATS changes that.
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If they aren't done, I really doubt they'd already have a date set. Also, the turnaround time for videos can be really quick if they choose for it to be, it's not out of the realm of possibility that if they got the video done tomorrow, they could have it out by the end of the week.
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Pros: -The stereo separation on this track is AWESOME. If you haven't listened to this song in headphones yet, you really haven't heard the best of it. -Joe has a presence in this song, and I like how his scratching is one of the first things that comes in during the intro. It's kind of like it serves as a reminder to everybody "hey, I'm still here!" -The guitar. While it's nothing special on its own, the previews (even the MOH trailer) had me worried there would be a huge absence of guitar on this track. There's actually a good deal of it from the second verse onwards, it's just kind of low in the mix. -The ending. I think they outdid TLTGYA in terms of epic song endings with tons of vocal layers on this one. Rob's drumming at the end is also killer (did anyone else notice they changed it a bit? The drums are different on the stems from the remix contest). Cons: - The mixing. Neal Avron did a great job on MTM, and most of this track sounds great as well, but the ending gets kind of muddy. I know there's a TON of layers going on at the end of this song and it was probably a nightmare to mix, but a little more breathing room wouldn't hurt. As it is, everything kind of blurs together at the end. - The techno-ish beat that runs through the first 2/3rds of the song is the only part that hasn't grown on me, I haven't liked it since the stems for the remix contest came out. It does help set the outro apart when it drops out, but I think it takes the first part of the song in a direction that falls into the category of "music I can appreciate, but don't particularly care for." If there were more guitars or something on top of it, it wouldn't bother me, but as exposed as it is (with the first part of the song being totally beat/synth-driven), I can't say I'm a fan of it. I give LP a 10/10 for creativity/ambition, but about a 7/10 in terms of how much I actually like the song.
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That's the release date for the CD single...the video might come out on that date too, but I'd say it most likely won't. They typically release the video about halfway between the digital release and the single release, so I'd expect it in about 2 weeks or so.
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Oh boy, MORE stupid, unnecessary bitching based on assumptions! You people obviously didn't read the info on the preorder site. It clearly says "Delivery of the single occurs on or before 8.2." Unless you don't get the mp3 until the 3rd, it's not "false advertising" in any way, shape, or form.
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I'm halfway convinced you'd think Stairway to Heaven would be a better song if it had Mike Shinoda rapping on it. Anyway, LP never said that Blackbirds would only be available through 8BR forever and ever until the end of time. Furthermore, there's a good possibility it wasn't even their decision to use Blackbirds as the iTunes pre-order bonus track - Warner was going to release Blackbirds as a standalone digital single a couple months ago then pulled it at the last minute, remember? So comments like the following... ...are fucking idiotic. Linkin Park is entitled to do whatever they please with their songs. And even if they don't, Warner probably will. Once again, the whiners should really be thankful that I'm not in Linkin Park - if I was, I'd pull a Lou Reed and release an hour-long album consisting of nothing but guitar feedback instead of A Thousand Suns just to piss people off. If my stupid fans are going to bitch about absolutely everything I do, I might as well give them a legitimate reason to do so.
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I'm sorry, but you're fucking crazy if you think an entire album is going to sound like one song, and you're even crazier if you think Linkin Park would attempt to sum up the sound of their entire album based on the sound of one fan remix.
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...Which was clearly in reference to the album version of The Catalyst, not the album as a whole.
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Mine should be on Youtube within the next few days, I'm just putting together a photo slideshow to go with it so there's something to look at.
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Not my favorite remix, but still a good one, and one that I definitely would have missed, considering where it was in the voting. Kind of a stroke of genius that he thought to use text-to-speech, since you weren't allowed to add your own vocals. Pretty cool story behind the guy who won too. Congrats to Keaton and Alex for making the top 20 as well!
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mike shinoda's freestyle (instrumental version)
Astat replied to linkinpark11111's topic in Everything Linkin Park
I had always assumed that beat came from another song, just had never been able to track it down. Thanks! -
Favorite LP album? Hybrid Theory Favorite LP song? Part of Me Favorite LP lyrics? Across the Line Favorite Hybrid Theory song? Forgotten Favorite Meteora song? Figure.09 Favorite Minutes to Midnight Song? The Little Things Give You Away Favorite Live CD? Road to Revolution Least Favorite LP album? Meteora Least Favorite LP song? Hit the Floor Least Favorite LP lyrics? Numb Least Favorite Hybrid Theory song? By Myself Least Favorite Meteora song? Hit the Floor Least Favorite Minutes to Midnight song? In Between
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Those still exist as well.
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The Down Syndrome is by Grey Daze... By the way, a lot of people would probably be surprised at the kind of stuff LP works on during rehearsals that never makes it on stage. My December was being soundchecked routinely as early as September of 2001 but wasn't added to the set full-time (with the exception of one oddball performance in the UK) until December. Carousel was also rehearsed at soundchecks around that period. We all know No Roads Left has been tried out during rehearsals for tours over the past couple years, and I've heard from a pretty reliable source that By Myself was dusted off during rehearsals for the '09 tour. The band's always brushing up on stuff they've never played or haven't played in a long time, there's just no guarantee of it making it to the stage.