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It comes as no surprise to me that the majority of the people already trash-talking this album (based on a total of 7 minutes and 18 seconds of material from a 48-minute album, mind you) come from "metal up your ass" country (a.k.a. Europe). I'm sorry, but if you people seriously expect "good music" to always consist of songs with heavy guitars, lots of screaming, and hard rocking drums, you've been following the wrong band for the last 10 years. Go listen to Korn or Godsmack or some other relic of the nu metal era if that's the kind of music you want to hear. You'll probably find their albums in the bargain bin at your local retailer. I'm sure we should all bow before your superhuman powers of foresight.

Everybody thought the Papercut intro was guitar. It's not. Everybody thought the New Divide intro was guitar. It's not. Everybody thought the My Suffering intro was guitar. It's not. Noticing a pattern here? I don't hear a single bit of guitar at any point in this video.

Guys, this doesn't mean much. They're giving 10 people crappy flip-cams to film some footage for Myspace's coverage of the show, which will probably just be a post-show review or something like that. The footage from flip-cams is comparable to the terrible cellphone videos that make up 95% of audience recordings on Youtube, so I don't see how you can take that information and conclude that it means there will be a webcast or DVD of this show. I'm pretty sure that there will NOT be any type of professional recordings of this show. No DSP, no webcast, no proshot video footage. The best we can hope for is a good audience recording (NYC Bitch Committee anyone?).

1. It's 104.1, not 140.1. 2. They aren't playing the full album, it says starting Tuesday, they'll be playing a new song every day, so they'll be playing 4 new tracks. This is probably the exact same thing Zane Lowe is doing, he's already said he'll be playing Waiting for the End, Blackout, Burning in the Skies, and Robot Boy.

IIRC, the Bleed it Out video was filmed before MTM was released as well.

I'm on the fence as far as that goes, a lot of the sounds could be translated to guitar but it probably wouldn't sound the same. Likewise, a lot of the sounds that he might play on keys are pretty weird. I think the majority of the instrumental of this song was created on the computer. And keep in mind, Brad's never had any problem leaving the stage if they don't need him for a song, he did so on a couple of the Collision Course tracks. Attempting to make up for lost time, that's my best guess. At this point, it's painfully obvious that Meteora was a total waste of an album, one that they never wanted to make in the first place, but caved in to pressure from the label and did so anyway (that whole story about them writing the "sophomore jinx" album and scrapping it? That music was probably way better than anything that made Meteora, but Warner flipped out when they discovered it didn't sound like Hybrid Theory). Minutes to Midnight should've been the album that was released in 2003, and ATS should've been the third album. I'll say it right now: Judging from everything I've heard so far, if ATS was a new band's debut album, I'd probably enjoy it more than I enjoyed Hybrid Theory when it first came out. I took a little over a year to get into Linkin Park after Hybrid Theory came out (truth be told, I thought In the End was a TERRIBLE song when I first heard it). However, I would run out and buy ATS on release day based solely on the merit of the 2 songs I've heard so far.

I'm glad they've backed up one of the main selling points of the album with this song - that they're capable of making a heavy song without big, distorted guitars. In fact, there may not even be any guitar in this song, or if there is, it's over-effected to the point that it doesn't really sound like guitar at all. The only thing I don't like is how most of the music drops out before the "hey hey hey" part, it's an unexpected surprise the first time you hear it, but on subsequent listens, it kind of kills the momentum that builds up in Mike's verses.

Probably nothing with obviously politically sensitive lyrics either, but HHH already has cursing in it so the only other song that might rule out is NMS. TLTGYA is about Katrina, so that should be okay. There will likely be some songs off ATS they'll have to steer clear of but they have plenty to choose from anyway. The band had to cut Given Up and the HHH intro to Crawling from the Shanghai show last year for similar reasons. I'm sure if there are any concerns, the promoter will address them with the band long before the show takes place. Ultimately, I wouldn't expect it to mean much other than them having to cut a few songs, they might replace them with other stuff but I'm not holding my breath. On a semi-related note, I wouldn't be surprised if this thread disappears before the end of the night. LPA removed the news post quoted in the first post of this thread less than an hour after it was posted.

Updated main post with new venue location.

*copy-pastes my post from that other LP fan site you deservedly got banned from* It says "BEGINNING two weeks before release date." Meaning that today is the absolute soonest they would even CONSIDER sending out ONE preview clip, let alone clips of the entire album. The word "beginning" being in that sentence implies a gradual rollout of pre-release media, and also doesn't guarantee that anyone will actually get anything today, just that today is the earliest they should expect anything. The only people lying here are the people lying to themselves by thinking that we were ever "guaranteed" to be getting clips today.

The only reason it's considered a Linkin Park song is that it was released on a Linkin Park CD. In reality, you might as well consider it a Motion Man song that features Mike. Nope. Mike is the only member of LP that had any involvement with this track. Credited to Paul Laster (Motion Man), Kurt Matlin (Kutmasta Kurt), and Mike Shinoda. Published through Nog Nod, which is a division of Bicycle Music.

Sweet, we get to see a 3-minute hacked-to-pieces version of The Catalyst that MTV will probably cut to commercial break in the middle of anyway! There's absolutely NO WAY that MTV will show a nearly 6-minute song from beginning to end. Totally the perfect way to debut the song live!

Why, because a couple dozen people tops are going to get to see LP play a handful of songs that you can be 100% certain they'll also play at the NYC show? Pretty silly thing to be upset about.

Phoenix plays guitar on HHH and LOATR. Brad also plays piano on HHH.

Definitely not a capo - it's behind the nut. It's probably one of two things: 1. A piece of velcro/a hair band/something like that, that Brad's wrapping around the strings behind the nut to reduce feedback/unwanted string noise. Not sure why he would have it on the guitar just for the music video though, unless it's a guitar he's also using during tour rehearsals. 2. It might actually be a camera attached to the headstock of the guitar, that didn't end up being used in the final cut of the video.

Never really cared for how Runaway sounds live, the chorus always sounds really choppy compared to the overlapping vocals on the chorus of the album version. Easier to Run was great live for the brief period they played it though.

They had a few of them up on their Myspace at one point as well. Cool to see that they're using some of the ones that weren't even in their top 20 list.

Eh, it's...a music video. I can probably count on one hand the number of music videos I've ever thought were genuinely "awesome" to the point that they actually enhanced my opinion of the song. They just aren't my thing, I've always thought of them as eye candy without much of a purpose. I'd imagine we'll get a "director's cut" version that uses the full 5:42 song at some point.

I think the 90-minute sets they've apparently been talking about will start with the South American shows, the NYC show is really a standalone event, it's in a very small venue, and it's even being advertised as an "album release party," so I think it'll be an exception. By the time this show takes place, it'll have been nearly 13 months since LP's last live performance, which is even longer than the break they had before last year's tour. I think they'll play a shorter set for something like this just to warm themselves up a bit.

I highly doubt it. The exact same clip is used in the background of 2 of the 5 video clips.

For some reason, I've got a feeling they'll play ATS in its entirety at the 9/14 show, then do an encore of New Divide and a single from the other 3 albums. 01. The Requiem 02. The Radiance 03. Burning in the Skies 04. Empty Spaces 05. When They Come for Me 06. Robot Boy 07. Jornada del Muerto 08. Waiting for the End 09. Blackout 10. Wretches and Kings 11. Wisdom, Justice, and Love 12. Iridescent 13. Fallout 14. The Catalyst 15. The Messenger --- 16. New Divide 17. Bleed it Out 18. Faint 19. One Step Closer Something like that. As for the actual shows beyond that, I haven't a clue.

It's actually S.C.O.M., Cover and Duck, The Battle, and All Night. The song "Right Now" on The Gatalog is an entirely different and unrelated song to Fort Minor's "Right Now." The version of The Battle on that compilation is the "full" version, with the remainder of Celph Titled's verse that was cut off after "either you ignorant or-" I believe all that was cut off the original version was the end of the line, "either you ignorant or you isn't," but Celph Titled went back and added some more to it later for inclusion on The Gatalog. No idea about any differences with the other 3 tracks though.

http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=5180

That's not Mr. Brown - that's a medley of a bunch of various stuff. Amazing that that mislabeling still occurs all the time over 5 years later just because one person's initial report of the setlist at a Fort Minor show said something to the effect of "Mr. Brown/Medley." There are several old hip hop songs sampled there - one I can think of off the top of my head is Welcome to the Terrordome by Public Enemy (the "hear the drummer get wicked" sample). The "yeah boy" sample is obviously Flava Flav, but I have no idea which song it's from since he said that so often.

Across the Line, by far. And I guarantee 95% of the people who vote for Pretend to Be are only doing so because it's fresh. People ALWAYS like stuff better when it's new. 44 people have voted as of me making this post, and it's 29-15 in favor of Across the Line. Ask the same 44 people the same question 6 months from now, and it'll probably be more like 40-4.