Hybrider Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, jopevc said: But that´s a stagelight demo. It´s very similar but I find it weird since stagelight is something from 2012 I think Stagelight samples are from every year. There is also sample from "Blue" HT demo. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLStaff Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share Posted February 15, 2023 That Meteora song board is still too iffy to know what's going on with it. Where are Numb and Nobody's Listening? Figure.09 is on twice (under F09 and under Plaster II). Where is Fighting Myself? Etc. LP's formula in this era is just great, it could really make some masterpiece songs. Mike: rapping Chester: sings one beautiful pre-chorus line Mike: one rap line here Chester: chorus A+. These songs kick ass. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJPLP Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Just now, LPLStaff said: That Meteora song board is still too iffy to know what's going on with it. Where are Numb and Nobody's Listening? Figure.09 is on twice (under F09 and under Plaster II). Where is Fighting Myself? Etc. LP's formula in this era is just great, it could really make some masterpiece songs. Mike: rapping Chester: sings one beautiful pre-chorus line Mike: one rap line here Chester: chorus A+. These songs kick ass. Fighting Myself is Shortcut. Underneath Shifter and above Nocturnal. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jopevc Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hybrider said: Stagelight samples are from every year. There is also sample from "Blue" HT demo. Oh really? Didn´t know that! Sorry XD Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftshoe18 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 My guess is that the final chorus - and maybe the bridge - of Figure.09 (either melody or lyrics) comes from Plaster II. The Figure.09 demo we got on LPU9 is very similar to the final version instrumentally. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andros Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Can the final A.06 demo with vocals be heavy and aggressive? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyShore Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, LPLStaff said: LP's formula in this era is just great, it could really make some masterpiece songs. Mike: rapping Chester: sings one beautiful pre-chorus line Mike: one rap line here Chester: chorus A+. These songs kick ass. Add a sick bridge and memorable beat/tone/piano part and this is the LP formula. They could make 500 songs like this and I'd still put them on shuffle until the end of time. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ93 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, NJPLP said: I think we only have 14 at the moment. We don't have 15 quite yet. Here's the list: 1. Don't Stay (Sick) 2. Somewhere I Belong (Pretty Birdie/Pretty Birdy) 3. Lying From You (Cuidado) 4. Hit The Floor (Husky) 5. Easier To Run (Interrogation) 6. Faint (Faint) 7. Figure.09 (Plaster II/Plaster 2/Figure.09) 8. Breaking The Habit (Drawing) 9. From The Inside (Shifter) 10. Nobody's Listening (Working title unknown) 11. Numb (Working title unknown) 12. Lost (Possibly Resolution) 13. Fighting Myself (Shortcut) 14. More The Victim (Cumulus) Number 15 is either A6 (A-Six/A.06), Wesside, or Resolution, though, I'm pretty sure the 15th one is probably A6. Who knows. Also, for Resolution, there have been many theories that Resolution is a demo of Lost. That hasn't been confirmed yet, but, if that's the case, then we'll have three different versions of Lost. https://www.thefader.com/2023/02/14/mike-shinoda-tells-the-story-of-finding-lost-a-forgotten-linkin-park-track-on-the-fader-interview you'll find the podcast and no, its without the preview of FM and MTV. but an interesting story. also, can you analyze on if Fighting Myself is a sequel to By Myself (regardless or sound/instrument and lyrics? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Still looking for the full interview please 🙏🥲 Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, NJPLP said: Fighting Myself is Shortcut. Underneath Shifter and above Nocturnal. Nah, that's one character too short to be Shortcut. 7 characters, and the second letter doesn't look anything like the H in Shifter right above it. I still think it says "Serpent." Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaterasu Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Where did this theory come from that Resolution is a demo of Lost? I have seen no evidence to back this up so far and I highly doubt they would put 3 versions of it in M20. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YRQRM0 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, Amaterasu said: Where did this theory come from that Resolution is a demo of Lost? I have seen no evidence to back this up so far and I highly doubt they would put 3 versions of it in M20. I am also wondering that I'm also thinking that people are getting their hopes up too much about things like A6 vocals. I expect it to have some form of vocals, but more like some nonsense scatting and very unpolished takes that won't exactly make for a lot of replay value, like the Mike BTH demo. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidss Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, Amaterasu said: Where did this theory come from that Resolution is a demo of Lost? I have seen no evidence to back this up so far and I highly doubt they would put 3 versions of it in M20. The only other version on M20 is the one released on Spotify now. There's also an instrumental demo mix from LPUTV, so that would be 2 versions. Same as "More the Victim" being released and "Cumulus" is the demo instrumental mix being released Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YRQRM0 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, solidss said: The only other version on M20 is the one released on Spotify now. There's also an instrumental demo mix from LPUTV, so that would be 2 versions. Same as "More the Victim" being released and "Cumulus" is the demo instrumental mix being released The third version is the 2002 mix, which is only included in the CD set of Meteora 20 but seemingly not the full box set (maybe not on streaming either?) Also, the video in the game had the word resolution in it, and that game seemed to be leading to Lost, so it kinda makes sense. But yeah, I'm not totally convinced either. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorast Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Amaterasu said: Where did this theory come from that Resolution is a demo of Lost? I have seen no evidence to back this up so far and I highly doubt they would put 3 versions of it in M20. There is no evidence. People are just throwing out wild speculation trying to tie down every title we have, as if we'll be able to put everything together before the box is out, and it leads to nonsense assertions like this. It's okay to not know things! Just relax. I think the reveal that More the Victim is the finished version of Cumulus has given people brainworms and now everyone thinks that Lost and Fighting Myself have to be finished versions of other instrumental demos. That doesn't have to be the case, guys. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diehardlpfan77 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 hours ago, IntensityJS said: It sounds nothing like Figure.09 lmao. closer to Hit The Floor tbh. I Meant Chester's Part sounded like Figure.09. You are right about HTF for mike's part though. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) I love how Mike has joked a few times about how LP fans "think" that there are amazing songs just sitting on hard drives somewhere, but then the band releases songs like these which prove that there are, in fact, amazing songs just sitting on hard drives somewhere! Edited February 15, 2023 by Justin Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DylHDZ Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, gorast said: There is no evidence. People are just throwing out wild speculation trying to tie down every title we have, as if we'll be able to put everything together before the box is out, and it leads to nonsense assertions like this. It's okay to not know things! Just relax. I think the reveal that More the Victim is the finished version of Cumulus has given people brainworms and now everyone thinks that Lost and Fighting Myself have to be finished versions of other instrumental demos. That doesn't have to be the case, guys. Amen Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrider Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Astat said: Nah, that's one character too short to be Shortcut. 7 characters, and the second letter doesn't look anything like the H in Shifter right above it. I still think it says "Serpent." There still can be Serpent and Shortcut. It doesn't have to be only Serpent or only Shortcut. Maybe Shortcut wasn't on the board. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeroboi Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Fighting myself? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soeffingnaive92 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Justin said: I love how Mike has joked a few times about how LP fans "think" that there are amazing songs just sitting on hard drives somewhere, but then the band releases songs like these which prove that there are, in fact, amazing songs just sitting on hard drives somewhere! Yeah like, Primo, Fighting Myself, More the Victim, LOST, ATL, NRL all finished songs that sound fucking great Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECzz Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 What amazing songs they have. I just cannot believe that they decided not to include in Meteora or how could they chose Foreword and Session over FM and Lost. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJPLP Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 10 hours ago, Astat said: Nah, that's one character too short to be Shortcut. 7 characters, and the second letter doesn't look anything like the H in Shifter right above it. I still think it says "Serpent." So I'm guessing it still stands as "Serpent" for now? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewe Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Full interview up on YouTube https://youtu.be/245si_wNDuQ Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soeffingnaive92 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 The interview was great, totally not the typical “WOW new Linkin park out April 7, new single Lost out now. Chester was the best singer of all time” stuff, this one was very deep especially in the Mike-Chester relationship. But in all honesty I’m not a big fan on how Howard insists on Chester being drunk/on drugs and a mess like all the time. It’s a bit too insistent Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14932-howard-stern-debuting-fighting-myself-and-more-the-victim/page/5/#findComment-317420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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