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14 hours ago, linkinepi said:

I am completely blown away by all this info.

 

November 17, 1998 demo CD:

01. Rhinestone

02. Esaul

03. Pictureboard

04. Fiends

05. Stick N Move

06. Carousel

07. Slip

08. Step Up

 

This should be the next holy grail. Look at all this stuff!!!!!!

Indeed. I agree. This should be the next holy grail. Actually all the songs that are listed (besides the Xero demo tape with the baby cover) is the biggest holy grail ever!

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On 12/9/2020 at 4:11 PM, lpliveusername said:

Xero - 1997 Mike Shinoda (from photo):

https://i.ibb.co/1qmLNnm/oscbook-dreamer-and-weigt.png

01. Fuse

02. Reading My Eyes

03. Stick N Move

 

First Xero demo he heard:

01. Fuse

02. [Untitled Track]

03. Stick And Move

04. Reading My Eyes

 

Xero (from photo):

https://i.ibb.co/1qmLNnm/oscbook-dreamer-and-weigt.png

01. Rhinestone

02. Dreamer

03. Weight

 

August 25, 1998 demo produced by Darryl Swan at Paramount Recording Studios (Studio C)

[Fiends from Rapology 14 likely from this demo]

 

November 17, 1998 demo CD:

01. Rhinestone

02. Esaul

03. Pictureboard

04. Fiends

05. Stick N Move

06. Carousel

07. Slip

08. Step Up

 

Chester rehearsing the Xero audition tape with Size 5 on March 19, 1999:

https://i.ibb.co/yk6VGWN/photo5082852027268180657.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/cg0rQHQ/photo5082852027268180658.jpg

 

[March 24, 1999 they found out Rhinestone would be on The Crow: Stairway To Heaven]

 

First demo CD with Chester [early May 1999]:

01. Over To Me (Blue)

02. Could Have Been

03. Rhinestone

04. Esaul

05. Part Of Me

06. Turn To Grey

07. Pictureboard

08. Ashes (Unfinished)

 

9-track demo CD, week of August 16, 1999:

xx. Untitled

xx. Points Of Authority

xx. Super Xero

xx. I Hate You/Crawling

 

Random mentions:

It Doesn't Matter [Untitled]

Flower [early She Couldn't]

 

Brad and Mike flew to New York to work with the Dust Brothers in September/October 1999 and did an early version of With You with only rap vocals. The demo was called Dust Brothers because it was meant for the Dust Brothers album.

 

Don Gilmore received the first demo from the band in November 1999:

xx. Untitled

xx. Crawling

xx. Dust Brothers

xx. Points Of Authority

 

Early March [first week] demo CD:

01. Plaster [no bridge]

02. Papercut [guitar/beat instrumental demo]

 

Recording at NRG started on March 7, 2000 and was scheduled for a month and a half. Rob's drum recording schedule for Hybrid Theory:

 

March 14, 2000:
Harmonic Song
Pictureboard
By Myself
Plaster
Papercut
Rhinestone (Forgotten)
And One

 

March 15, 2000:
Untitled
Esaul (A Place For My Head)
Dust Bros.
Stick N Move

 

March 16, 2000:
Stick N Move (continued from 3/15)
Slip
A Place For My Head

 

March 17, 2000:
Points Of Authority
Pushing Me Away
Now I See (With You Demo)

This is the HOLY GRAIL!!! I mean look at all this new information and content. There's no way this would not be the BIGGEST HOLY GRAIL EVER!!!

 

I also think another HUGE holy grail would be, obviously, Chester's rehearsals on the Xero audition tape. Both of these are the GRAND HOLY GRAILS!!!!!

 

Let's just hope this stuff either gets leaked someday in future, by Jeff Blue or someone else, or gets released officially by Linkin Park sometime in the future.

 

Deftest is also one I hope either gets leaked someday in the future, by someone, or gets released officially by Linkin Park sometime in the future.

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20 hours ago, lpliveusername said:

Xero - 1997 Mike Shinoda (from photo):

https://i.ibb.co/1qmLNnm/oscbook-dreamer-and-weigt.png

01. Fuse

02. Reading My Eyes

03. Stick N Move

 

First Xero demo he heard:

01. Fuse

02. [Untitled Track]

03. Stick And Move

04. Reading My Eyes

 

November 1997, baby cover:

01. Rhinestone

02. Reading My Eyes

03. Fuse

04. Stick N Move

 

Xero (from photo):

https://i.ibb.co/1qmLNnm/oscbook-dreamer-and-weigt.png

01. Rhinestone

02. Dreamer

03. Weight

 

August 25, 1998 demo produced by Darryl Swan at Paramount Recording Studios (Studio C)

[Fiends from Rapology 14 likely from this demo]

 

November 17, 1998 demo CD:

01. Rhinestone

02. Esaul

03. Pictureboard

04. Fiends

05. Stick N Move

06. Carousel

07. Slip

08. Step Up

 

Chester rehearsing the Xero audition tape with Size 5 on March 19, 1999:

https://i.ibb.co/yk6VGWN/photo5082852027268180657.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/cg0rQHQ/photo5082852027268180658.jpg

 

[March 24, 1999 they found out Rhinestone would be on The Crow: Stairway To Heaven]

 

First demo CD with Chester [early May 1999]:

01. Over To Me (Blue)

02. Could Have Been

03. Rhinestone

04. Esaul

05. Part Of Me

06. Turn To Grey

07. Pictureboard

08. Ashes (Unfinished)

 

Studio time with Mudrock in June 1999 for about a week [Hybrid Theory EP]

 

9-track demo CD, week of August 16, 1999:

xx. Untitled

xx. Points Of Authority

xx. Super Xero

xx. I Hate You/Crawling

 

Random mentions:

It Doesn't Matter [Untitled]

Flower [early She Couldn't]

 

Brad and Mike flew to New York to work with the Dust Brothers in September/October 1999 and did an early version of With You with only rap vocals. The demo was called Dust Brothers because it was meant for the Dust Brothers album.

And why this list is not an Anniversary Edition...

 

There is no mention in all the track listings of So Far Away and Dedicated.

Edit: And there is no mention of Slip w/Chester/

 

20 hours ago, lpliveusername said:

Recording at NRG started on March 7, 2000 and was scheduled for a month and a half. Rob's drum recording schedule for Hybrid Theory:

 

March 14, 2000:
Harmonic Song
Pictureboard
By Myself
Plaster
Papercut
Rhinestone (Forgotten)
And One

 

March 15, 2000:
Untitled
Esaul (A Place For My Head)
Dust Bros.
Stick N Move

 

March 16, 2000:
Stick N Move (continued from 3/15)
Slip
A Place For My Head

 

March 17, 2000:
Points Of Authority
Pushing Me Away
Now I See

Interestingly, this list includes twice Esaul and A Place for My Head, as well as Dust Bros. and Now I See. Probably Harmonic Song and Pushing Me Away are the same thing.

According to this list, Slip, And One, Pictureboard, were re-recorded for the album...
 

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22 hours ago, lpliveusername said:

Xero - 1997 Mike Shinoda (from photo):

https://i.ibb.co/1qmLNnm/oscbook-dreamer-and-weigt.png

01. Fuse

02. Reading My Eyes

03. Stick N Move

 

First Xero demo he heard:

01. Fuse

02. [Untitled Track]

03. Stick And Move

04. Reading My Eyes

 

Xero (from photo):

https://i.ibb.co/1qmLNnm/oscbook-dreamer-and-weigt.png

01. Rhinestone

02. Dreamer

03. Weight

 

November 17, 1998 demo CD:

05. Stick N Move

06. Carousel

07. Slip

08. Step Up

 

First demo CD with Chester [early May 1999]:

06. Turn To Grey

08. Ashes (Unfinished)

 

Random mentions:

Flower [early She Couldn't]

 

Recording at NRG started on March 7, 2000 and was scheduled for a month and a half. Rob's drum recording schedule for Hybrid Theory:

 

March 14, 2000:
Harmonic Song
Pictureboard
Rhinestone (Forgotten)
And One

 

March 15, 2000:
Esaul (A Place For My Head)
Stick N Move

 

March 16, 2000:
Stick N Move (continued from 3/15)
Slip
A Place For My Head

This is what I'm interested in listening to.

 

22 hours ago, lpliveusername said:

First Xero demo he heard:

02. [Untitled Track]

 

Xero (from photo):

https://i.ibb.co/1qmLNnm/oscbook-dreamer-and-weigt.png

02. Dreamer

03. Weight

 

November 17, 1998 demo CD:

05. Stick N Move

06. Carousel

07. Slip

08. Step Up

 

First demo CD with Chester [early May 1999]:

06. Turn To Grey

08. Ashes (Unfinished)

 

Random mentions:

Flower [early She Couldn't]

But this is what I'm really interested in listening to.

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23 hours ago, lpliveusername said:

November 17, 1998 demo CD:

02. Esaul

 

First demo CD with Chester [early May 1999]:

04. Esaul

 

9-track demo CD, week of August 16, 1999:

xx. Super Xero

 

March 14, 2000:
By Myself

 

March 15, 2000:
Esaul (A Place For My Head)

 

March 16, 2000:
A Place For My Head

 

I think I noticed something regarding the Hybrid Theory - 2 Track Demo, if you look Esaul was called "Esaul" till January (9 Track Demo) but was Esaùl then around March It was changed to Esaul (A Place For My Head) possibly due them finalizing to change it to A Place For My Head, which they did, also that Esaul is similar to the one played on Lockout Documentary in February 2000. SuperXero was originally called Sad but was called Super Xero till March maybe before to By Myself even the version that was released on Hybridtheory site in April 2000 it was called By Myself plus they almost sound identical leads me to believe The 2 Track Demo was made around March 2000 or sometime around that.

 

I'm not trying to spread misinformation, this is just a theory a Hybrid Theory lol, from analyzing things about the 2 songs history like I could be wrong or right or halfway right who knows tho.

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8 hours ago, EgorN said:

Probably Harmonic Song and Pushing Me Away are the same thing.

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Recording at NRG started on March 7, 2000 and was scheduled for a month and a half. Rob's drum recording schedule for Hybrid Theory:

 

March 14, 2000:
Harmonic Song

 

March 17, 2000:
Pushing Me Away

That may be true, but I'm not too sure. Harmonic Song was done 3 days before Rob worked on Pushing Me Away. I think for now we should just believe it to be an early version of Pushing Me Away, or that Harmonic Song and Pushing Me Away are the exact same song until we get a precise answer on what Harmonic Song actually is.

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On 12/9/2020 at 10:11 PM, lpliveusername said:

Here's a full list of demos from the book up to page 189:

 

Xero - 1997 Mike Shinoda (from photo):

https://i.ibb.co/1qmLNnm/oscbook-dreamer-and-weigt.png

01. Fuse

02. Reading My Eyes

03. Stick N Move

 

First Xero demo he heard:

01. Fuse

02. [Untitled Track]

03. Stick And Move

04. Reading My Eyes

 

November 1997, baby cover:

01. Rhinestone

02. Reading My Eyes

03. Fuse

04. Stick N Move

 

Xero (from photo):

https://i.ibb.co/1qmLNnm/oscbook-dreamer-and-weigt.png

01. Rhinestone

02. Dreamer

03. Weight

 

August 25, 1998 demo produced by Darryl Swan at Paramount Recording Studios (Studio C)

[Fiends from Rapology 14 likely from this demo]

 

November 17, 1998 demo CD:

01. Rhinestone

02. Esaul

03. Pictureboard

04. Fiends

05. Stick N Move

06. Carousel

07. Slip

08. Step Up

 

Chester rehearsing the Xero audition tape with Size 5 on March 19, 1999:

https://i.ibb.co/yk6VGWN/photo5082852027268180657.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/cg0rQHQ/photo5082852027268180658.jpg

 

[March 24, 1999 they found out Rhinestone would be on The Crow: Stairway To Heaven]

 

First demo CD with Chester [early May 1999]:

01. Over To Me (Blue)

02. Could Have Been

03. Rhinestone

04. Esaul

05. Part Of Me

06. Turn To Grey

07. Pictureboard

08. Ashes (Unfinished)

 

Studio time with Mudrock in June 1999 for about a week [Hybrid Theory EP]

 

9-track demo CD, week of August 16, 1999:

xx. Untitled

xx. Points Of Authority

xx. Super Xero

xx. I Hate You/Crawling

 

Random mentions:

It Doesn't Matter [Untitled]

Flower [early She Couldn't]

 

Brad and Mike flew to New York to work with the Dust Brothers in September/October 1999 and did an early version of With You with only rap vocals. The demo was called Dust Brothers because it was meant for the Dust Brothers album.

 

Don Gilmore received the first demo from the band in November 1999:

xx. Untitled

xx. Crawling

xx. Dust Brothers

xx. Points Of Authority

 

Early March [first week] demo CD:

01. Plaster [no bridge]

02. Papercut [guitar/beat instrumental demo]

 

Recording at NRG started on March 7, 2000 and was scheduled for a month and a half. Rob's drum recording schedule for Hybrid Theory:

 

March 14, 2000:
Harmonic Song
Pictureboard
By Myself
Plaster
Papercut
Rhinestone (Forgotten)
And One

 

March 15, 2000:
Untitled
Esaul (A Place For My Head)
Dust Bros.
Stick N Move

 

March 16, 2000:
Stick N Move (continued from 3/15)
Slip
A Place For My Head

 

March 17, 2000:
Points Of Authority
Pushing Me Away
Now I See

 

How did you know about the working titles of Slip for example? Fascinating stuff!

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On 12/9/2020 at 4:11 PM, lpliveusername said:

Here's a full list of demos from the book up to page 189:

 

Xero - 1997 Mike Shinoda (from photo):

https://i.ibb.co/1qmLNnm/oscbook-dreamer-and-weigt.png

01. Fuse

02. Reading My Eyes

03. Stick N Move

 

First Xero demo he heard:

01. Fuse

02. [Untitled Track]

03. Stick And Move

04. Reading My Eyes

 

November 1997, baby cover:

01. Rhinestone

02. Reading My Eyes

03. Fuse

04. Stick N Move

 

Xero (from photo):

https://i.ibb.co/1qmLNnm/oscbook-dreamer-and-weigt.png

01. Rhinestone

02. Dreamer

03. Weight

 

August 25, 1998 demo produced by Darryl Swan at Paramount Recording Studios (Studio C)

[Fiends from Rapology 14 likely from this demo]

 

November 17, 1998 demo CD:

01. Rhinestone

02. Esaul

03. Pictureboard

04. Fiends

05. Stick N Move

06. Carousel

07. Slip

08. Step Up

 

Chester rehearsing the Xero audition tape with Size 5 on March 19, 1999:

https://i.ibb.co/yk6VGWN/photo5082852027268180657.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/cg0rQHQ/photo5082852027268180658.jpg

 

[March 24, 1999 they found out Rhinestone would be on The Crow: Stairway To Heaven]

 

First demo CD with Chester [early May 1999]:

01. Over To Me (Blue)

02. Could Have Been

03. Rhinestone

04. Esaul

05. Part Of Me

06. Turn To Grey

07. Pictureboard

08. Ashes (Unfinished)

 

Studio time with Mudrock in June 1999 for about a week [Hybrid Theory EP]

 

9-track demo CD, week of August 16, 1999:

xx. Untitled

xx. Points Of Authority

xx. Super Xero

xx. I Hate You/Crawling

 

Random mentions:

It Doesn't Matter [Untitled]

Flower [early She Couldn't]

 

Brad and Mike flew to New York to work with the Dust Brothers in September/October 1999 and did an early version of With You with only rap vocals. The demo was called Dust Brothers because it was meant for the Dust Brothers album.

 

Don Gilmore received the first demo from the band in November 1999:

xx. Untitled

xx. Crawling

xx. Dust Brothers

xx. Points Of Authority

 

Early March [first week] demo CD:

01. Plaster [no bridge]

02. Papercut [guitar/beat instrumental demo]

 

Recording at NRG started on March 7, 2000 and was scheduled for a month and a half. Rob's drum recording schedule for Hybrid Theory:

 

March 14, 2000:
Harmonic Song
Pictureboard
By Myself
Plaster
Papercut
Rhinestone (Forgotten)
And One

 

March 15, 2000:
Untitled
Esaul (A Place For My Head)
Dust Bros.
Stick N Move

 

March 16, 2000:
Stick N Move (continued from 3/15)
Slip
A Place For My Head

 

March 17, 2000:
Points Of Authority
Pushing Me Away
Now I See

Hopefully there’s a chance that all of this gets leaked or released in the future.

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I feel like the only shot we have at hearing any of this stuff is like... an HT50 release. I wouldn't hold my breath on this one, though this is truly some amazing information.

 

Then again... the tapes exist. Maybe all we need to do is some sleuthing 👀

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On 12/9/2020 at 9:11 PM, lpliveusername said:

Here's a full list of demos from the book up to page 189:

 

Xero - 1997 Mike Shinoda (from photo):

https://i.ibb.co/1qmLNnm/oscbook-dreamer-and-weigt.png

01. Fuse

02. Reading My Eyes

03. Stick N Move

 

First Xero demo he heard:

01. Fuse

02. [Untitled Track]

03. Stick And Move

04. Reading My Eyes

 

November 1997, baby cover:

01. Rhinestone

02. Reading My Eyes

03. Fuse

04. Stick N Move

 

Xero (from photo):

https://i.ibb.co/1qmLNnm/oscbook-dreamer-and-weigt.png

01. Rhinestone

02. Dreamer

03. Weight

 

August 25, 1998 demo produced by Darryl Swan at Paramount Recording Studios (Studio C)

[Fiends from Rapology 14 likely from this demo]

 

November 17, 1998 demo CD:

01. Rhinestone

02. Esaul

03. Pictureboard

04. Fiends

05. Stick N Move

06. Carousel

07. Slip

08. Step Up

 

Chester rehearsing the Xero audition tape with Size 5 on March 19, 1999:

https://i.ibb.co/yk6VGWN/photo5082852027268180657.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/cg0rQHQ/photo5082852027268180658.jpg

 

[March 24, 1999 they found out Rhinestone would be on The Crow: Stairway To Heaven]

 

First demo CD with Chester [early May 1999]:

01. Over To Me (Blue)

02. Could Have Been

03. Rhinestone

04. Esaul

05. Part Of Me

06. Turn To Grey

07. Pictureboard

08. Ashes (Unfinished)

 

Studio time with Mudrock in June 1999 for about a week [Hybrid Theory EP]

 

9-track demo CD, week of August 16, 1999:

xx. Untitled

xx. Points Of Authority

xx. Super Xero

xx. I Hate You/Crawling

 

Random mentions:

It Doesn't Matter [Untitled]

Flower [early She Couldn't]

 

Brad and Mike flew to New York to work with the Dust Brothers in September/October 1999 and did an early version of With You with only rap vocals. The demo was called Dust Brothers because it was meant for the Dust Brothers album.

 

Don Gilmore received the first demo from the band in November 1999:

xx. Untitled

xx. Crawling

xx. Dust Brothers

xx. Points Of Authority

 

Early March [first week] demo CD:

01. Plaster [no bridge]

02. Papercut [guitar/beat instrumental demo]

 

Recording at NRG started on March 7, 2000 and was scheduled for a month and a half. Rob's drum recording schedule for Hybrid Theory:

 

March 14, 2000:
Harmonic Song
Pictureboard
By Myself
Plaster
Papercut
Rhinestone (Forgotten)
And One

 

March 15, 2000:
Untitled
Esaul (A Place For My Head)
Dust Bros.
Stick N Move

 

March 16, 2000:
Stick N Move (continued from 3/15)
Slip
A Place For My Head

 

March 17, 2000:
Points Of Authority
Pushing Me Away
Now I See

THIS

IS

SO

FCKING

AMAZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING

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9 hours ago, MrS said:

How can we just look for it? Who shall we contact?

Agreed, who do we contact and where do we look? I was searching it up and I only found stuff on the original Xero demo tape. That's it.

 

Edit: Can't find any specific information on the demos themselves.

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1 hour ago, NJPLP said:

Agreed, who do we contact and where do we look? I was searching it up and I only found stuff on the original Xero demo tape. That's it.

 

Edit: Can't find any specific information on the demos themselves.

 

This information just got revealed in a book. Of course there is no information online about this stuff, it just came out. Lmao.

 

There is no way we will get this stuff anytime soon, if ever. It's just notes about what was going on in the 1997-2000 era.

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On 12/9/2020 at 4:11 PM, lpliveusername said:

November 17, 1998 demo CD:

05. Stick N Move

06. Carousel

07. Slip 

08. Step Up

I'd DIE to hear this stuff!!!!!

 

(Figuratively, anyway) 

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44 minutes ago, hahninator said:

 

This information just got revealed in a book. Of course there is no information online about this stuff, it just came out. Lmao.

 

There is no way we will get this stuff anytime soon, if ever. It's just notes about what was going on in the 1997-2000 era.

I think there´s quite the possiblity that we´ll never hear EVERYTHING that the band did from 1997 to 2000. So many variations of several songs, I think some of them will be lost, CDs and tapes too

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Holy shit this is so fucking amazing!!! I want to hear it all shiiiiit! I always thought Carousel was a Xero Demo because it sounds like Xero Demo! And now I know that Mike just released nothing in the HT20 if I compare it with this. OMG. My mind will blow up with these info. I want the first studio Xero CD so much.

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On 12/10/2020 at 2:40 PM, xeroboi said:

I wanna hear this 2000 version  of pictureboard and I want that last version of stick and move 

That last version of stick and move is probably the same one released in HT20

 

On 12/10/2020 at 2:37 PM, hahninator said:

Which probably includes that re-arranged version of And One, too.

You mean the short live version?

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1 hour ago, hybrider said:

Holy shit this is so fucking amazing!!! I want to hear it all shiiiiit! I always thought Carousel was a Xero Demo because it sounds like Xero Demo! And now I know that Mike just released nothing in the HT20 if I compare it with this. OMG. My mind will blow up with these info. I want the first studio Xero CD so much.

Same. I also want to listen to the first Xero CD.

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