ShinigamiPWN Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I never said vd had emo lyrics. I just don't like that is complaining about being alone on valentines day. I still like the song but think the lyrics could have been better. There not horrible lyrics but there by no means great either Eh, someone said emo, maybe it wasn't you. Still. Crawling is even more whiny sounding and complaining than VD will ever be. And I don't think the song is about someone being alone on Valentine's Day. If you listen closely to the lyrics, "And the ground below grew colder, as they put you down inside." I believe there's a much deeper meaning than what you realize. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiilite Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 (edited) I never said vd had emo lyrics. I just don't like that is complaining about being alone on valentines day. I still like the song but think the lyrics could have been better. There not horrible lyrics but there by no means great either While I agree on the whole moaning about Valentine's Day at the end of the song (that's what ruins the song for me IMO), up until that point the lyrics are beautiful. To be honest, I don't interpret the song as "being alone on a Valentine's Day" at all. I think it's deeper than that, but that's just me. ^^ to the member above, I see we have very similar thoughts on this subject. Edited September 3, 2010 by Faint!ntoPieces Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pez Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 This is Making me LOL so hard. some people have been on the pot since meteora came out. Jez. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinigamiPWN Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 (edited) While I agree on the whole moaning about Valentine's Day at the end of the song (that's what ruins the song for me IMO), up until that point the lyrics are beautiful. To be honest, I don't interpret the song as "being alone on a Valentine's Day" at all. I think it's deeper than that, but that's just me. ^^ to the member above, I see we have very similar thoughts on this subject. Yes, it seems so. And I agree about the ending of VD. That's why it isn't particularly one of my favorites. This is Making me LOL so hard. some people have been on the pot since meteora came out. Jez. "This" meaning? Also.. it's funny you say that. Chester said he wanted us to feel as though we were on drugs while listening to ATS. XD Edited September 3, 2010 by ShinigamiPWN Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rav0k Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 (edited) some people have been on the pot Mary Jane or Thunder Box? Edited September 3, 2010 by rav0k Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPjahova808 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Mary Jane or Thunder Box? Neither, Pineapple express /my2cents Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiderSSPU Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 While I agree on the whole moaning about Valentine's Day at the end of the song (that's what ruins the song for me IMO), up until that point the lyrics are beautiful. To be honest, I don't interpret the song as "being alone on a Valentine's Day" at all. I think it's deeper than that, but that's just me. ^^ to the member above, I see we have very similar thoughts on this subject. Yeah. I don't like the ending of the lyrics. That's one the things I don't like about the song. The rest of the lyrics are ok but could be better. I still like the song though. Don't get the wrong idea. I love all LP songs except for one Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPjahova808 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Yeah. I don't like the ending of the lyrics. That's one the things I don't like about the song. The rest of the lyrics are ok but could be better. I still like the song though. Don't get the wrong idea. I love all LP songs except for one Which one would that be? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anality Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I think i'm the only who has a problem with the reggae style delivery of the chorus Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spraypaintninkpens Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I think i'm the only who has a problem with the reggae style delivery of the chorus No, I do as well. Doesn't fit the song at all. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPjahova808 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I think i'm the only who has a problem with the reggae style delivery of the chorus I honestly love it myself. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rav0k Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 No, I do as well. Doesn't fit the song at all. You have a problem with everything though, bro. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiilite Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 (edited) Yeah. I don't like the ending of the lyrics. That's one the things I don't like about the song. The rest of the lyrics are ok but could be better. I still like the song though. Don't get the wrong idea. I love all LP songs except for one Don't worry, I'm not judging at all. I think that's one of the most interesting parts about Linkin Park, they have such a wide fanbase with completely different opinions! It's thanks to their originality and drive to always create different genres of music that have created these gaps between their fans. Some people can enjoy the relativity of their lyrics, while others enjoy the deeper meanings in their songs. At the same time, some members love their heavy tracks and despise the soft ones, and vice-versa. I don't know of any other band that has such a wide array of positive opinions about them... although they also carry a massive amount of hate. Edited September 3, 2010 by Faint!ntoPieces Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rav0k Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 (edited) Linkin Park, they have such a wide fanbase with completely different opinions! It's thanks to their originality and drive to always create different genres of music that have created these gaps between their fans. Some people can enjoy the relativity of their lyrics, while others enjoy the deeper meanings in their songs. At the same time, some members love their heavy tracks and despise the soft ones, and vice-versa. +9001 Edited September 3, 2010 by rav0k Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinigamiPWN Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 You have a problem with everything though, bro. I lol'd. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spraypaintninkpens Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 You have a problem with everything though, bro. Just with this album so far. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rav0k Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Just with this album so far. Fair enough. So...I'm ready for some Wretches and Kings multi-track files now. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiderSSPU Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Don't worry, I'm not judging at all. I think that's one of the most interesting parts about Linkin Park, they have such a wide fanbase with completely different opinions! It's thanks to their originality and drive to always create different genres of music that have created these gaps between their fans. Some people can enjoy the relativity of their lyrics, while others enjoy the deeper meanings in their songs. At the same time, some members love their heavy tracks and despise the soft ones, and vice-versa. I don't know of any other band that has such a wide array of positive opinions about them... although they also carry a massive amount of hate. That's so true. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPYiLong Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 (edited) GOSH! i like it so much!! glad that i pre-ordered it! Edited September 3, 2010 by FuYiLong Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaiNt Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I'm on the fence as far as that goes, a lot of the sounds could be translated to guitar but it probably wouldn't sound the same. Likewise, a lot of the sounds that he might play on keys are pretty weird. I think the majority of the instrumental of this song was created on the computer. And keep in mind, Brad's never had any problem leaving the stage if they don't need him for a song, he did so on a couple of the Collision Course tracks. Attempting to make up for lost time, that's my best guess. At this point, it's painfully obvious that Meteora was a total waste of an album, one that they never wanted to make in the first place, but caved in to pressure from the label and did so anyway (that whole story about them writing the "sophomore jinx" album and scrapping it? That music was probably way better than anything that made Meteora, but Warner flipped out when they discovered it didn't sound like Hybrid Theory). Minutes to Midnight should've been the album that was released in 2003, and ATS should've been the third album. I'll say it right now: Judging from everything I've heard so far, if ATS was a new band's debut album, I'd probably enjoy it more than I enjoyed Hybrid Theory when it first came out. I took a little over a year to get into Linkin Park after Hybrid Theory came out (truth be told, I thought In the End was a TERRIBLE song when I first heard it). However, I would run out and buy ATS on release day based solely on the merit of the 2 songs I've heard so far. Sounds like one of Korn super tuned down guitars... i think its possible, but it would sound different live no doubt. And i pre-ordered the cd based off the little clip of Wretches and Kings. This is what LP is about... this music would totally suit the name Hybrid Theory don't ya think? lol. I can't wait for the album after this one tho. lol Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkindude92 Posted September 3, 2010 Author Share Posted September 3, 2010 THE ALBUM AFTER ATS WILL KICK YOUR ASS Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pez Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Im actually still annoyed at LP Australia, They posted this on their facebook earlier Hey guys, saw your posts on the Wretches & Kings track – we are getting this to fans who pre-ordered the album as soon as we can. You will definitely get it, it just wasn’t sent immediately as Australia is set up differently than the rest of the world…as Australian fans get the 48 hour ticket window for the Australian tour. Apologies guys. So let me get this straight. You have delayed the song because we have a 48 hour ticket release for the tour which hasn't been confirmed yet. Now think about it. First whats the song got to do with the Ticket Pre sales. Second, Doesn't every other country that has ATS Pre orders get a 48 hour ticket release. Seems like a bad cover up for fucking everyone up. Its disappointing that people who don't even give a fuck about LP can get the song over people who pre ordered it and could get the song "exclusively". /2cents On another random off topic note LeftShoe, have you ever though about changing your name to RightGlove? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mofamike Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 (edited) While I agree on the whole moaning about Valentine's Day at the end of the song (that's what ruins the song for me IMO), up until that point the lyrics are beautiful. To be honest, I don't interpret the song as "being alone on a Valentine's Day" at all. I think it's deeper than that, but that's just me. ^^ to the member above, I see we have very similar thoughts on this subject. Yes you are right, because Chesters father was died on a Valentines day. The lyrics and specially the end of the song stands for the funeral of his father and the deep feelings about his situation after the death. Sry for my bad english:-) I hope everyone here think differnet now about this powerfull and deepfeeling song. Edited September 3, 2010 by Mofamike Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinigamiPWN Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Yes you are right, because Chesters father was died on a Valentines day. The lyrics and specially the end of the song stands for the funeral of his father and the deep feelings about his situation after the death. Sry for my bad english:-) I hope everyone here think differnet now about this powerfull and deepfeeling song. I had never heard of that.. :< Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerkid Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Yes you are right, because Chesters father was died on a Valentines day. The lyrics and specially the end of the song stands for the funeral of his father and the deep feelings about his situation after the death. Sry for my bad english:-) I hope everyone here think differnet now about this powerfull and deepfeeling song. i never knew that. glad you told me i learned something new today. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5359-wretches-kings/page/20/#findComment-96691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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