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How about instead of going to see them in Argentina, you find a way to go back in time and go to the first Brazil show, since you're clearly stuck in 2004. Uhh, no. Just no. They'll continue to play their old songs live, genius. And he might have to use it on some of the new material as well, depending on what tuning they end up playing some of this stuff in. If it chases off people like you, I'd say they made the right decision with this album. Let's see...this album has: -More rapping than Minutes to Midnight (more akin to Hybrid Theory) -More electronic-tinged songs than Minutes to Midnight (more akin to Hybrid Theory) -More scratching than Minutes to Midnight (more akin to Hybrid Theory) You can think what you like about the album, but saying there are no similarities between it and the music the band made in their early days is flat-out wrong. I stopped reading your post after the second line. Sorry, but if you expected a rock album, you've been completely out of the loop for the past 2 years. Your own fault for not paying attention. And you sir, sound just like one of those old blowhards from a long-socially-irrelevant generation that swears "real music" died when Elvis started swinging his hips or when the Beatles landed in New York. You've got 10 years on me age-wise (meaning you probably grew up worshiping Nirvana, one of the most laughably overrated bands in the history of music, but I digress...), but at 22, I'm significantly older than the majority of LP's fanbase. Roughly 90% of the music I own was recorded before 1980. And I can say with 100% honesty that I think this is the best album Linkin Park has ever made. Yes, that's right, for all the people who gasped at the concept or didn't have it register the first time I said it: I believe A Thousand Suns is a better album than Hybrid Theory. I read a comment on another site yesterday that really put it in perspective for me: "R.I.P. Linkin Park. Long live Linkin Park." I would be perfectly content if for the rest of their career, Linkin Park continued to break down all perceptions of what they sound like with each successive album. The idea of what "Linkin Park" is in the eyes of their fans and the media is something that deserves to die every few years, and then be reborn according to the ideas of the only 6 people in the world who truly have the right to decide what "Linkin Park" really is at any given point in time.

It's already confirmed that the filming for the VMA broadcast will take place earlier in the day in a secret outdoor location. The VMAs themselves are taking place at the Nokia Theater.

Not my favorite, but definitely not as terrible as some people seem to be saying. The harmonies are great, and the song really picks up once the synth solo comes in.

I guarantee you've never listened to an ACTUAL dance record in your life, since you clearly don't have a fucking clue what one is. I really should give you a warning for this post as well, since you're essentially flaming a good majority of the people on this forum by calling them fools for liking the album. I read that as "I will be leaving shortly" at first glance. Normally that would get my hopes up...but then I read your review, and I was pleasantly surprised to see that you like the album for the most part. I even agree with you about the ending of Wisdom, Justice, and Love - repeating the last line 6 times gets pretty redundant. Same here. I'm surprised how confident Mike seems to be that it won't be an issue. Between all the unconventional instrumentation and the extremely layered vocal parts, it's going to be interesting, to say the least. I've given the album one listen all the way through...I definitely love it, but it's a LOT to digest (I have a lot on my mind right now too, today happened to be my first day at my new job). I'll probably post my review tomorrow.

The sound of this album has 100% NOTHING to do whatsoever with the band still being on Warner. Wanna hear an album that was the direct result of the band making the record Warner told them to make? Go listen to Meteora. Haven't listened to the album yet myself, gotta wait until I get home from work tonight (go figure, the album leaks the day I start my new job, haha).

H! VLTG3. Ew.

I think Akira was an alter-ego name of sorts that Mike went by in the Hybrid Theory days, but he probably ditched it years ago.

It comes as no surprise to me that the majority of the people already trash-talking this album (based on a total of 7 minutes and 18 seconds of material from a 48-minute album, mind you) come from "metal up your ass" country (a.k.a. Europe). I'm sorry, but if you people seriously expect "good music" to always consist of songs with heavy guitars, lots of screaming, and hard rocking drums, you've been following the wrong band for the last 10 years. Go listen to Korn or Godsmack or some other relic of the nu metal era if that's the kind of music you want to hear. You'll probably find their albums in the bargain bin at your local retailer. I'm sure we should all bow before your superhuman powers of foresight.

Everybody thought the Papercut intro was guitar. It's not. Everybody thought the New Divide intro was guitar. It's not. Everybody thought the My Suffering intro was guitar. It's not. Noticing a pattern here? I don't hear a single bit of guitar at any point in this video.

Guys, this doesn't mean much. They're giving 10 people crappy flip-cams to film some footage for Myspace's coverage of the show, which will probably just be a post-show review or something like that. The footage from flip-cams is comparable to the terrible cellphone videos that make up 95% of audience recordings on Youtube, so I don't see how you can take that information and conclude that it means there will be a webcast or DVD of this show. I'm pretty sure that there will NOT be any type of professional recordings of this show. No DSP, no webcast, no proshot video footage. The best we can hope for is a good audience recording (NYC Bitch Committee anyone?).

1. It's 104.1, not 140.1. 2. They aren't playing the full album, it says starting Tuesday, they'll be playing a new song every day, so they'll be playing 4 new tracks. This is probably the exact same thing Zane Lowe is doing, he's already said he'll be playing Waiting for the End, Blackout, Burning in the Skies, and Robot Boy.

IIRC, the Bleed it Out video was filmed before MTM was released as well.

I'm on the fence as far as that goes, a lot of the sounds could be translated to guitar but it probably wouldn't sound the same. Likewise, a lot of the sounds that he might play on keys are pretty weird. I think the majority of the instrumental of this song was created on the computer. And keep in mind, Brad's never had any problem leaving the stage if they don't need him for a song, he did so on a couple of the Collision Course tracks. Attempting to make up for lost time, that's my best guess. At this point, it's painfully obvious that Meteora was a total waste of an album, one that they never wanted to make in the first place, but caved in to pressure from the label and did so anyway (that whole story about them writing the "sophomore jinx" album and scrapping it? That music was probably way better than anything that made Meteora, but Warner flipped out when they discovered it didn't sound like Hybrid Theory). Minutes to Midnight should've been the album that was released in 2003, and ATS should've been the third album. I'll say it right now: Judging from everything I've heard so far, if ATS was a new band's debut album, I'd probably enjoy it more than I enjoyed Hybrid Theory when it first came out. I took a little over a year to get into Linkin Park after Hybrid Theory came out (truth be told, I thought In the End was a TERRIBLE song when I first heard it). However, I would run out and buy ATS on release day based solely on the merit of the 2 songs I've heard so far.

I'm glad they've backed up one of the main selling points of the album with this song - that they're capable of making a heavy song without big, distorted guitars. In fact, there may not even be any guitar in this song, or if there is, it's over-effected to the point that it doesn't really sound like guitar at all. The only thing I don't like is how most of the music drops out before the "hey hey hey" part, it's an unexpected surprise the first time you hear it, but on subsequent listens, it kind of kills the momentum that builds up in Mike's verses.

Probably nothing with obviously politically sensitive lyrics either, but HHH already has cursing in it so the only other song that might rule out is NMS. TLTGYA is about Katrina, so that should be okay. There will likely be some songs off ATS they'll have to steer clear of but they have plenty to choose from anyway. The band had to cut Given Up and the HHH intro to Crawling from the Shanghai show last year for similar reasons. I'm sure if there are any concerns, the promoter will address them with the band long before the show takes place. Ultimately, I wouldn't expect it to mean much other than them having to cut a few songs, they might replace them with other stuff but I'm not holding my breath. On a semi-related note, I wouldn't be surprised if this thread disappears before the end of the night. LPA removed the news post quoted in the first post of this thread less than an hour after it was posted.

Updated main post with new venue location.

*copy-pastes my post from that other LP fan site you deservedly got banned from* It says "BEGINNING two weeks before release date." Meaning that today is the absolute soonest they would even CONSIDER sending out ONE preview clip, let alone clips of the entire album. The word "beginning" being in that sentence implies a gradual rollout of pre-release media, and also doesn't guarantee that anyone will actually get anything today, just that today is the earliest they should expect anything. The only people lying here are the people lying to themselves by thinking that we were ever "guaranteed" to be getting clips today.

The only reason it's considered a Linkin Park song is that it was released on a Linkin Park CD. In reality, you might as well consider it a Motion Man song that features Mike. Nope. Mike is the only member of LP that had any involvement with this track. Credited to Paul Laster (Motion Man), Kurt Matlin (Kutmasta Kurt), and Mike Shinoda. Published through Nog Nod, which is a division of Bicycle Music.

Sweet, we get to see a 3-minute hacked-to-pieces version of The Catalyst that MTV will probably cut to commercial break in the middle of anyway! There's absolutely NO WAY that MTV will show a nearly 6-minute song from beginning to end. Totally the perfect way to debut the song live!

Why, because a couple dozen people tops are going to get to see LP play a handful of songs that you can be 100% certain they'll also play at the NYC show? Pretty silly thing to be upset about.

Phoenix plays guitar on HHH and LOATR. Brad also plays piano on HHH.

Definitely not a capo - it's behind the nut. It's probably one of two things: 1. A piece of velcro/a hair band/something like that, that Brad's wrapping around the strings behind the nut to reduce feedback/unwanted string noise. Not sure why he would have it on the guitar just for the music video though, unless it's a guitar he's also using during tour rehearsals. 2. It might actually be a camera attached to the headstock of the guitar, that didn't end up being used in the final cut of the video.

Never really cared for how Runaway sounds live, the chorus always sounds really choppy compared to the overlapping vocals on the chorus of the album version. Easier to Run was great live for the brief period they played it though.

They had a few of them up on their Myspace at one point as well. Cool to see that they're using some of the ones that weren't even in their top 20 list.

Eh, it's...a music video. I can probably count on one hand the number of music videos I've ever thought were genuinely "awesome" to the point that they actually enhanced my opinion of the song. They just aren't my thing, I've always thought of them as eye candy without much of a purpose. I'd imagine we'll get a "director's cut" version that uses the full 5:42 song at some point.