hahninator Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Hey guys, I thought I'd fill you in on some news regarding the Argentina show. After hearing the live videos of the show and wondering why the crowd was so much louder than the band, I did some investigating. Here's what Pooch (LP's live sound engineer) had to say about the show... "I thought the band played awesome. In the city of Buenos Aires there is a new sound ordinance that prevents any outdoor show from being louder than 95dBC. A diesel truck that is 30ft away idling is approx 95dB. So you get the idea. This was a VERY soft show. Sometimes the crowd was TWICE as loud as the PA was. So from a sound perspective this is known as "un-inspiring". I know that some fans were complaining that they couldn't hear the band, etc. It made me so frustrated, because I know what they sound like when we can really ROCK the joint. If anyone on LP live or LPU want to know why the show was so quiet - feel free to post what I just said. The crew and the band were just as upset as the crowd was that we couldn't TURN IT UP. It was the government of Buenos Aires that wouldn't allow us to rock out. There were two guys with sound meters at FOH making sure that I did not break the rules, or they would stop the show. So if the people want to have more rock shows that REALLY rock in Buenos Aires, they need to petition their local politicians to get this sound ordinance abolished." Interesting! Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONDREUS240 Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 That sucks hairy penis warts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPsoldier0303 Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 That really does explain alot. Thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPxDC Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 FIGHT THE MACHINE *turns on Wretches & Kings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliss Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 wow, that is very interesting. I feel bad for the people down there. They haven't got an LP concert in years and then the goverment makes them play soft. that kind of sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vr23 Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 The Argentinian Fans Rock! The Argentenian Government FAILS!!! GOD BLESS AMERICUHHH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 I was gonna say, there had to be something going on, because you literally can't hear the band AT ALL on some of the Youtube videos shot from the nosebleed seats. That's a really lame way to start a tour, hopefully the band makes a statement by not going back to Buenos Aires until they change the ridiculous restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4X Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 I saw some vids and it was really awesome when the crowd was singing. I'm really proud of fans who can totally rock out these performances. I don't mind if there would be a record of "only-crowd-sang" performance (as BA videos). That would really blow up my mind! : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted October 9, 2010 Author Share Posted October 9, 2010 Yeah that sucks. There are restrictions on other venues though. Zurich, Switzerland's Hallenstadion has a really big one on it...the show I went to was pretty quiet and Pooch explained why afterward when I had just witnessed him CRANKING it in Graz, Austria a few days beforehand. Tampa, Florida's amphitheatre is the same due to a neighborhood being nearby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Good to see I wasn't going crazy when I thought the band sounded quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korn200196 Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 (edited) then whats the meaning of helding a ROCK CONCERT??? sorry to hear that... i wonder how does it going to sound in the DSP? Edited October 9, 2010 by kevin@TW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheloLP Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 I was gonna say, there had to be something going on, because you literally can't hear the band AT ALL on some of the Youtube videos shot from the nosebleed seats. That's a really lame way to start a tour, hopefully the band makes a statement by not going back to Buenos Aires until they change the ridiculous restrictions. Well, I don't really know what you gain when you make that statement, because frankly, the B.A goverment couldn't care less about it and you are just making the Argentinian fan base unhappy. ------------------------------------------------ To give you guys a little information about this, the B.A goverment is very strict with this because they have a commitment (one that I don't agree) with enviromental security. This starts with the sound and the effects that the jumping has on the floor and nearby buildings, lots of neighbours have complained to the local goverment and asked to remove concerts (This is one of the main reasons that the Concert wasn't made in the "Monumental" where every big band has their show) and they had to did it in the "Velez" stadium. In fact they have conducted studies about it and but they are hesitant of not allowing anymore concerts because of the profit they gain, in fact some bands like U2 have said that if they can't play there they won't play. Just to show some of the studies they have done: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecanoLP Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Wow, this sucks. Thanks for posting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiiesel Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 ...and I thought that crowd was so damn loud and insane ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexonlyalex Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 I dunno, I don't think that the louder the speakers are the better the show. I don't like it when its so loud that you can't really recognize the music or hear yourself speaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudioNick Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 This is a VERY interesting topic to me. I'm studying a module at university about sound levels and how they are important to us. Especially in health and safety and keeping our ears undamaged. I won't carry on. The rules are there for a reason! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschenneck Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 fucking Goverment! There is such a restriction for the "Waldbühne" in Berlin, too. When I went there back in 2008, you could easily talk during the show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPlover Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 this sucks ! It's a ROCK concert dammit ! It's supposed to be loud... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annare Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 this sucks ! It's a ROCK concert dammit ! It's supposed to be loud... This! What's the point of having a rock concert in your town if you don't let them rock?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheloLP Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Just to give them some credit, I went to see Metallica there (Anyone who went to a Metallica concert knows that the audio is one of the best if not the best in the bussiness), without sound restrictions and we were louder than the PA, and it wasn't because the mixing wasn't right, I testified it being there, listening the concert later with the official audio (.flac) and the TV broadcast, South American crowds are crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkindude92 Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 DAMN! I afraid about the conditions in india all ready! our government is best as SUCKING. We gonna be 25% more low then this. DAMN! I think this is the reason for LP not playing in most of the Countries in Asia other than Japan. China and Indonesia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiiesel Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 well...what about giving everyone headphones? everyone can adjust the volume themself and no one outside will hear anything ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashwhisker Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 The guys should've mentioned this to the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwerty18 Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 That sucks hairy penis warts. ....until they change the ridiculous restrictions. Yeah that sucks. Wow, this sucks. Thanks for posting fucking Goverment! this sucks ! It's a ROCK concert dammit ! It's supposed to be loud... This! What's the point of having a rock concert in your town if you don't let them rock?! OK. All of you....you don't FUCKING know what you're talking about. Maybe some of you will think I'm an ass or whatever, but I totally support the Argentina governement on this one. Do you know music at too loud level can destroy your ears? Basically, do you know what tinnitus is? Probably no. Tinnitus is a constant ringing in your ears, and once you have it, it's for the rest of your life. I have a "soft" tinnitus, due to listening to music at super heavy level. But I'm not here to complain about myself, that would be ridiculous. The fact is, I've always hate all the bastards who put the music at super super loud level during live shows, and who endanger everyone health because "loud = fun". I know its more fun...but what's the point of destroying its entire life for 1 show? I don't talk about myself (like I've said, my tinnitus is soft), but some guys have commit suicide because they couldn't live with an alarm in their head. People taking restrictions about sound level during live show are getting lot of insults in this thread, but do you think those restrictions are really useless? Do you think there mind is like "Ok, let's go soft, that will piss people off! Great!". Now I'm not saying live shows all should be very soft, because THAT would be boring. But fuck, 95 db is already loud. Max 105 db. But after, it's just stupid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschenneck Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 OK. All of you....you don't FUCKING know what you're talking about. Maybe some of you will think I'm an ass or whatever, but I totally support the Argentina governement on this one. Do you know music at too loud level can destroy your ears? Basically, do you know what tinnitus is? Probably no. Tinnitus is a constant ringing in your ears, and once you have it, it's for the rest of your life. I have a "soft" tinnitus, due to listening to music at super heavy level. But I'm not here to complain about myself, that would be ridiculous. The fact is, I've always hate all the bastards who put the music at super super loud level during live shows, and who endanger everyone health because "loud = fun". I know its more fun...but what's the point of destroying its entire life for 1 show? I don't talk about myself (like I've said, my tinnitus is soft), but some guys have commit suicide because they couldn't live with an alarm in their head. People taking restrictions about sound level during live show are getting lot of insults in this thread, but do you think those restrictions are really useless? Do you think there mind is like "Ok, let's go soft, that will piss people off! Great!". Now I'm not saying live shows all should be very soft, because THAT would be boring. But fuck, 95 db is already loud. Max 105 db. But after, it's just stupid... maybe too loud music isn't good for my ears, but too low music isn't enjoyable. That's it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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