hahninator Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jH2sGkcKeI EDIT: Link fixed Last night Dead By Sunrise played in Gelsenkirchen, Germany at the Veltins-Arena as a part of the Stock Car Crash Challenge. Check out the video, it seems the organizers had the band pull a "Top Of The Pops" and had Chester & Ryan sing over a backing instrumental of 'Crawl Back In'. Interesting. I'm not insulting the band or anything (I have no idea if it was their decision or not), of course. To my knowledge, though, this is the first time any LP-related act has done this on a performance. First time for everything! Thoughts? Hopefully we'll get an HD source / better source for it soon. I'll also update the Dead By Sunrise pages later today... EDIT by LESTAT: People, read closely. Chester and Ryan sang live. It was not lip-syncing. The instruments were playback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackChester Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) yo mark.. the show is still on.. this wasn't last night there is no HD.. pro7 is not aired in HD as far as I know BUT all bands tonight did playback, DBS was the only with LIVE vocals! the rest did full playback Edited October 10, 2009 by BlackChester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drdwn Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 ...:S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent_control Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 i failed on recording -.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felipeintheend Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Nice *_* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LESTAT Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 BUT all bands tonight did playback, DBS was the only with LIVE vocals! the rest did full playback Haha. Nice to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Biggy Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 pro7 doesn't air in hd.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luki9875 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 great job chester.... at least one that can sing live... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiman Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 That's never a smart move for a band to do. Let's just hope there was some hardcore editing done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackChester Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I'm recording the show (still not done yet) I'll dl my recording tomorrow cut it and upload it for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPxDC Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 so what was the purpose of this event? I know Nickelback played as well and some other band... did DBS only play one song? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexonlyalex Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 wtf why are you all saying that Pro7 does not air in HD, all such tv total events are in HD, at least 720p. Like even all normal TV total episodes are in HD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 That's never a smart move for a band to do. Let's just hope there was some hardcore editing done! This happens FAR more frequently than you probably realize. Tons of bands use backing tracks for televised performances, sometimes fully lip-synced, sometimes with live vocals over a canned instrumental. There are a variety of reasons that this can happen, sometimes the locations where televised performances are recorded aren't set up to handle a full live band setup (they don't have a large PA system/board that can handle very many inputs, stuff like that), sometimes the station just wants the band's performance to be better than usual (both by sounding better and the band being able to put more energy into their performance since they don't have to worry about playing their parts correctly - win/win situation for the TV station), and sometimes it's almost a form of censorship - they don't want a band to "sabatoge" the performance. Nirvana was notorious for doing this, when they played Top of the Pops, they were forced to play to a backing track, but Kurt convinced the station to let them do live vocals...and this was the result: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtehDIWrX5U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaLPLP Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Its a stockcar crash challenge with "celebreties" of Germany So they drive in a circle and crash each other for points and so on....its an event by one of the best moderators in Germany (Stefan Raab) and of course there are music acts there was DBS ...yes they did play ONE song...the video was uploaded sooo quick...the show ends in a few minutes I think...im still watching...nice work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiman Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 This happens FAR more frequently than you probably realize. Tons of bands use backing tracks for televised performances, sometimes fully lip-synced, sometimes with live vocals over a canned instrumental. There are a variety of reasons that this can happen, sometimes the locations where televised performances are recorded aren't set up to handle a full live band setup (they don't have a large PA system/board that can handle very many inputs, stuff like that), sometimes the station just wants the band's performance to be better than usual (both by sounding better and the band being able to put more energy into their performance since they don't have to worry about playing their parts correctly - win/win situation for the TV station), and sometimes it's almost a form of censorship - they don't want a band to "sabatoge" the performance. Nirvana was notorious for doing this, when they played Top of the Pops, they were forced to play to a backing track, but Kurt convinced the station to let them do live vocals...and this was the result: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtehDIWrX5U I know how often that happens thank you. I've already seen that Nirvana video... saw it years ago. I stand by my statement. It's never a smart move for a band to do. I don't understand how that translates to "Hmm... that doesn't happen very often." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PizzaPino Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 muse did the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I know how often that happens thank you. I've already seen that Nirvana video... saw it years ago. I stand by my statement. It's never a smart move for a band to do. I don't understand how that translates to "Hmm... that doesn't happen very often." Why is it "not a smart move" if it's something so commonplace that virtually every band that's ever been big enough to be on a televised performance in the first place has done it at some point? It's no worse than fixing mistakes in the DSPs, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadyBoy Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) I'm not sure if i'm allowed to put a download link here so if you wanna have the link just PM me or give me the permission to put it here Greetz Edit: Got the permission... here it is *click* have fun Edited October 10, 2009 by BadyBoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 You can put a download link Sure, no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSunToday Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) I just came back from the event and I guess their amp's couldn't make a good sound for this huge arena. I just saw the guys didn't even have their pedals and noone tuned the guitars on stage. They just checked the microphone. The other acts had instrumentals as well, therefore I think it wasn't their decision. ah, and I don't know how the tv recording is yet, but the vocals were awful in the arena. Ryans background vox was way too loud... I'll watch what you saw tomorrow... Going to bed now, as it's 1.45 AM in Germany right now. I think I could have found a better way to spend my money... Edited October 10, 2009 by NoSunToday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiman Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Why is it "not a smart move" if it's something so commonplace that virtually every band that's ever been big enough to be on a televised performance in the first place has done it at some point? It's no worse than fixing mistakes in the DSPs, really. Because they're standing there jamming on their instruments like something's actually happening. They're basically acting. On the DSPs, yes they did edit them and correct them to make them sound better but at least they had the decency to actually perform instead of act like they're filming a music video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Shinoda Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 High Quality http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv3Jzb6CamU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrInfluXion Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Shit well thats just rediculous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 Because they're standing there jamming on their instruments like something's actually happening. They're basically acting. On the DSPs, yes they did edit them and correct them to make them sound better but at least they had the decency to actually perform instead of act like they're filming a music video. Absolutely agree. It's acting. It's fake. It's not really happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianolp325 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Its not that its not a smart move and i can understand why they do it. I have friends who say they would rather listen to the polished album version then have a band mess around with their song on stage. and the live sound is raw and rough and many people dont like it. and mass media wants everything nice and clean. it just takes away from the actual "performance aspect that we love" which sux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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