Astat

Backing up to this, seems like the people mentioning these particular songs (at least COG, I haven't actually seen anything about UIG) were basing their evidence off of fanmade piano stems that they may or may not have created themselves. Empty Spaces/When They Come for Me and Iridescent multitracks also leaked (and were deleted pretty quickly).

That looks to me like someone had an original case but burned their own copy of the disc.

Website was LPConcerts.com. It was a browser-based mashup thing sponsored by Verizon that had clips from several of the mainstage Projekt Revolution 2007 bands (but primarily LP). The mashup list was as follows: Bleed It Out vs. Makedamnsure Bleed It Out vs. Papercut Bleed It Out vs. Passion's Killing Floor Bleed It Out vs. What I've Done Faint vs. Killing Loneliness Given Up vs. Crawling Given Up vs. In the End In the End vs. Crawling In the End vs. Mama Leave Out All the Rest vs. Given Up What I've Done vs. Numb You'd basically just pick whatever sounds you wanted to mash together from Song A and Song B in each group and that combination would play back in your browser. Each mashup had the song pair's key and BPM adjusted accordingly to make them fit together (so even when a song was featured multiple times, the corresponding clips for each mashup would be different). If you were a U.S. college student, you could submit your mashups to a contest where the winner would get a private LP concert for their school. A girl from the University of Las Vegas won and this was supposed to be the show, but it was cancelled: https://lplive.net/shows/2008/20081006

Nope. Not sure who actually made it but it's been around since 2005 or 2006.

It was definitely added to BMI very recently, BMI work numbers are chronological based on when they were added to the database. Songwriters/their representatives can submit material to ASCAP/BMI at any time though, doesn't have to be when the song is released. I have stuff from years ago that I've just submitted to BMI within the last few months. Some of the non-album LP stuff on BMI was added years after it was released too.

Mystery solved, it's a song that samples In the End: A bunch of Charles Anthony Neal II's other songwriting credits on BMI correspond to other Redbird Rip songs. He's also apparently written a bunch of stuff for the band Eaglesnake.

https://lplive.net/shows/2008/20080529 Lots of pictures were posted of LPU members with the band at this performance, many with signed copies of setlists. Most were setlists from the actual performance but one was a full PR08 rehearsal setlist that had No Roads Left in it. Also, relating to this topic as a whole...holy hell does Newswire need the option to add a cut line to posts on the main page of the site. I think I could tape down my mouse, go make dinner, come back and still not have reached the bottom of the page.

I'd expect another 2-3 shows in Asia to be announced yet. Malaysia, Hong Kong, probably another Japan show (Tokyo). Maybe mainland China too but I wouldn't be so sure there. Can't imagine he won't do an Australia leg after this either.

It's not just a mastering issue, check out all the weird stuff with the drum sound on Given Up for example - it's like they added reverb but somehow caused phasing issues in the process or something. Why on earth is it so hard to get people to just release this stuff without fucking with it first?

Drinking game: Take a shot every time Geki baselessly blames Warner for something.

I almost guarantee that all of those examples you listed are indeed lossless. Songs that have minimal instrumentation, lack percussion instruments, etc. are incredibly prone to confusing algorithm-based lossy vs. lossless detection software. An example I know of is Song of the Century from Green Day's 21st Century Breakdown - you can literally rip a .wav of that track directly from the CD and any detection software you run it through will insist that it's lossy even though it isn't.

LPU5 mix tried waaaaaay too hard to emphasize how big the crowd was. It comes off like there's just a constant drone of background noise during the entire thing and it totally blurs the separation of the instruments in a really unpleasant way.

This show page in the Julien-K section is broken: https://lplive.net/shows/julienk0809/20080116J

I've been under the impression for 15 years that the audio is just from Worcester. It matches up as far as I can tell. The video is from multiple shows. Clothes change from shot to shot, etc.

Meh. No comment.

I had two different HT instrumental copies, the only difference I remember is that the first one had the version of OSC with the kick and snare panned to opposite sides and the second one didn't. I don't really remember getting them unusually early compared to anybody else, maybe by a few days or something. I never had them in lossless before now but they may have been out there.

Funny how you keep talking about stuff being deleted that wasn't actually deleted to further your bullshit conspiracy theories. https://lplive.net/forums/topic/132-all-instrumentals-acapellas-list/?do=findComment&comment=292000 *[LINK REMOVED]*

The other HT instrumentals are definitely different versions from what we had (compare the mastering of Crawling side-by-side with the previous one for example), but as far as I can tell OSC is just a conversion of what we already had. The old OSC already had a fully-mastered waveform appearance. The new one has a slightly different waveform appearance, but still has the same "definitely not the album version" sound. Also while the original Rock Band instrumental version was easy to spot with the kick/snare panned to opposite sides, even in the more recent version I've noticed that the toms are all in the right channel (check right before the first verse for example). So I'm pretty sure we still don't have a legit OSC instrumental. *Edit* So I just did a side-by-side comparison of all of them, and yes, every song except OSC is mastered differently from the previous version. I'm still unsure of the whole CD's legitimacy though because someone could have always just remastered the other tracks using the previously-available versions.

The vocal heard on Running From My Shadow is clearly a headphone/studio monitor mix bleeding into a microphone on something, probably one of the guitar tracks. I don't doubt the authenticity of the Pts.Of.Athrty instrumental, I'm sure that's how it appears on the promo disc and there's really no way to create that version of it from the 5.1 tracks or anything else that's out there. I just don't understand WHY that's the way it sounds. It sounds like a version that's only like 3/4ths finished or something.

The outro's a little different. Probably what the original version sounded like before NoBrain made his edits that appeared on the final album mix.

Heard the same and that it was supposed to involve MGK in some manner.

The "you fucking faggots" at Mountain View from the same tour was a lot more cringeworthy in hindsight. Chester was probably about at his peak of being drunk and/or high all the time towards the end of the Meteora era and his filter was just non-existent. The "I found O.J.'s gloves" at Rock Am Ring, the "I've never been fisted before, that was awesome" at Cuyahoga Falls (which I so desperately wish there was a recording of, lol), he was really saying a lot of off-the-wall stuff during that period that definitely would have been put under a microscope if Youtube/social media would have been prevalent at the time.

That may have been the case initially but I'm pretty sure what's out there now is legit. The original OSC instrumental was put together from the Rock Band stems, which was obvious due to the kick being panned to one side and the snare to the other. But a "correct" version has been out for quite a while now - the date on the one I have is November of 2014, while the OSC multitrack didn't leak until within the last year. I know a few people have had the HT multitracks for many years but I don't think any of them bothered to do anything like put instrumentals together using them. I think the Meteora instrumentals may have been recorded back through someone's computer sound card instead of directly ripping a CD. The glitches sound more like interface-related latency than CD skips. I'm sure the CD does exist though. We've just unfortunately never gotten a proper upgrade.

As far as song info goes, this is mostly conjecture/connecting-the-dots type stuff, but I can offer the following: -At least some of the guitar on this song is in drop C tuning, which is completely out of character for anything Mike and/or Brad would have been doing in 2016. -Chester's definitely not on the song, but a lot of the higher background vocals don't really sound like Mike. -Brian Howes, the previously-mentioned writer of the song, was the lead singer/guitarist of the band Closure years ago, they had a somewhat successful single in "Look Out Below" back in 2003: Putting all that together, my assumption is that Brian is playing at least some of the guitar and singing background vocals on the recording. Also, the second to last line of the chorus should be "unless you've got your word," not "unless you've got your worth." I haven't seen anyone get that right. The first line of the song might also be "day, night" instead of "daylight," I'm not totally sure.

https://lplive.net/shows/mikeshinoda19/20190325 The first of Mike's two Tel Aviv shows is completely gone (both the show page and the entry on the 2019 tour dates page).