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FYI, the LPU CD song selection/manufacturing process always takes at least a couple months. Even if the Hollywood Bowl show gave them enough strength to start going through demos looking for ways to honor Chester (because you know they'd want the CD to feature him heavily), there just wouldn't have been enough time to do it. I think we'll eventually get some LPU music in the first half of 2018, either as a CD or as a download thing.

I wouldn't quite jump the gun on assuming there will be a CD with LPU 17 yet, given the circumstances. Good to know it's continuing though.

Bass is a tad different than the guitar tunings. Papercut, One Step Closer, Points of Authority, Crawling, By Myself, and Pushing Me Away are tuned Db Ab Db Gb. A Place for My Head and Forgotten are Eb Ab Db Gb. With You, Runaway, and In the End are on a 5-string in standard BEADG tuning.

Only gripe with the new mix is they buried Ilsey's guitar solo on TTM/All Along the Watchtower. Boooo.

Predicting they pull a Live in Texas for LPU this year and the CD is just tracks that weren't on the live album. Something like: 01. The Catalyst 02. Wastelands 03. One Step Closer 04. Castle of Glass 05. Waiting for the End 06. Breaking the Habit 07. Somewhere I Belong 08. Points of Authority 09. Papercut 10. Faint

They never stopped recording every show, even after the DSP program was discontinued. Every show from 2007-present was recorded.

There were zero LP live performances for the entire LPU 15 calendar year. LPU 5 got the Japan 2006 shows and nothing else. It's not unprecedented.

Once again, we got NO information whatsoever on LPU last year until a week before it launched.

Sydney was struggling to hit notes, but Jonathan Davis did a good job? Did I wake up in an alternate universe today?

No, you don't "hate it as much as the rest of us," because you're one of about three people on here with their head far enough up their ass to think the way you do. Jon doesn't NEED to be capable of doing Chester's heavy vocal parts. Look at how they did Numb, New Divide, and In the End. How many other early vocally heavy songs were really auto-includes in the setlist before Chester's passing? One Step Closer, Faint...that's really about it. You're talking about a pretty small portion of the setlist where it would be an issue. It's an important chunk of the set, sure, but they've already shown there are ways to work around it that don't have to involve replacing Chester. Jon was the MVP of the show. He was literally out there for a third of the set, and everything he did was integrated seamlessly. He covered Chester's guitar part on Iridescent. He played keys enough to free Mike up to be more of a frontman on songs where he'd otherwise be stuck behind his keyboards. His harmonies kept vocal playback to a minimum. He even sang the album "ahh-ahh" part at the end of Papercut that has literally NEVER been done live. Knowing now how much Jon brings to the table, I'd be vouching for the guy to be the Morgan Nicholls or Jason Freese of Linkin Park even if Chester was still with us.

Good eye, that's definitely Marc!

Everything you could possibly want to know about the Hollywood Bowl show for the show page (I see numerous corrections that need to be made) is here: http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=12980&p=281308

Consider this a more show page-oriented "master post" of all the info I could compile that I felt was noteworthy...the list of guests (particuarly which songs Jon Green was on, and who all was on stage for Bleed it Out - I have the complete list) has been pretty iffy elsewhere, and I wanted to note everything I could. I'm still trying to write an actual review. 01. Robot Boy/The Messenger/Iridescent/Roads Untraveled (Medley) - Linkin Park feat. Jon Green (Keys/Backing Vocals) -Mike lead vocals on parts originally sung by Chester -No second guitar parts on Iridescent/Roads Untraveled -Robot Boy: Intro "ooh's" only w/some of outro instrumental (including some of Chester's vocals on playback), moved from key of D to key of C -The Messenger: Full band electric arrangement, Intro/Verse 1/Chorus 2 only, moved from key of G to key of C -Iridescent: Re-arranged version with bridge/outro instrumental serving as a recurring theme, Intro through Chorus 2 only -Roads Untraveled: Re-arranged version with bridge instrumental serving as intro, Shortened (no last chorus), moved from key of G# minor to key of A minor (Chester vocal warmup video clip) 02. Numb - Linkin Park -Instrumental (except for occasional backing vocals by Mike), spotlight on empty mic stand at front of stage w/rest of stage darkened -Brad's guitar was horrendously out of tune on this song for some reason... 03. Shadow of the Day/With or Without You (U2 cover) - Linkin Park feat. Ryan Key (Vocals), Jon Green (Guitar/Backing Vocals), and a string quartet -Re-arranged version w/Mike playing bass and Phoenix playing guitar, lots of new guitar parts (Brad, Phoenix, and Jon all on guitars) -Shadow of the Day: Extended intro, Shortened (no first guitar solo or third chorus) -With or Without You: Intro/Verse 1/Chorus 3/Outro only, moved from key of D to key of B -Additional Shadow of the Day chorus played after With or Without You portion 04. Leave Out All the Rest (2017 Version) - Linkin Park feat. Gavin Rossdale (Vocals) and a string quartet -Moved from key of A minor to key of G minor -Someone (probably Jon Green) was singing backing vocals from offstage on this one, there are definitely additional harmonies beyond what Mike's singing audible on the recording, and the webcast shows that Joe/Brad/Phoenix aren't singing. 05. Somewhere I Belong - Linkin Park feat. Taka (Vocals) and a string quartet (Lollipops and Unicorns video clip) 06. Castle of Glass - Mike Shinoda and Joe Hahn feat. No Doubt/Dreamcar (Tom Dumont - Guitar, Tony Kanal - Bass, Adrian Young - Drums), Alanis Morissette (Vocals), and a string quartet -Moved from key of C# minor to key of D# minor -No second guitar part (Mike didn't play guitar like he did when the studio version was played in the past) 07. Rest - Alanis Morissette (Vocals) and Mike Farrell (Keys) (LP/We Care Solar video clip) 08. Nobody Can Save Me - Linkin Park feat. Steven McKellar (Vocals) and Jon Green (Guitar/Backing Vocals) -Extended guitar/vocal intro, moved from key of B to key of Bb -Mike lead vocals on first verse/chorus, Steven McKellar lead vocals for rest of song 09. Battle Symphony - Linkin Park feat. Jon Green (Guitar/Vocals) -False start -Brad, Mike, and Jon all on guitars -Much like Leave Out All the Rest, there were additional vocal parts audible beyond Mike and Jon, and nobody else on stage was singing. This time it almost sounded like there was a pre-recorded double of Mike's harmonies in the choruses. 10. Sharp Edges - Linkin Park (Mike Shinoda, Brad Delson, and Phoenix) feat. Ilsey Juber (Vocals) -Moved from key of D minor to key of F minor -Brad and Phoenix both on acoustic guitar 11. Talking to Myself/All Along the Watchtower (Bob Dylan/Jimi Hendrix cover) - Linkin Park feat. Ilsey Juber (Guitar/Vocals) and Jon Green (Keys/Vocals) -Moved from key of D minor to key of G# minor -All Along the Watchtower portion in place of bridge of Talking to Myself, Intro/First Verse/Guitar Solo then back into Talking to Myself chorus/outro 12. Heavy - Linkin Park feat. Julia Michaels (Vocals) and Kiiara (Vocals) 13. One More Light - Linkin Park (Mike Shinoda, Brad Delson, and Phoenix) -Mike lead vocals -Moved from key of F minor to key of E minor 14. Looking for an Answer - Mike Shinoda 15. Waiting for the End - Linkin Park feat. Sydney Sierota (Vocals) and Steven McKellar (Vocals) -Extended piano/vocal > Apaches intro, Wall of Noise outro -Mike lead vocals on intro -Mike messed up at one point during the piano intro. (Hybrid Theory/Frat Party video clip) 16. Crawling - Linkin Park (Mike Shinoda, Brad Delson, Phoenix, and Joe Hahn) feat. Oliver Sykes (Vocals) and Zedd (Drums) -Moved from key of C# minor to key of B minor -Intro was messed up -Lead-in to second chorus was messed up (Zedd started to go into the chorus too soon, and Oliver Sykes almost followed him, but both corrected themselves) -Oliver Sykes was accused of lipsyncing by many people, after his vocals from the previous day's rehearsal were mistakenly broadcast on the webcast instead of his live vocals (likely a result of someone having the pre-recorded vocal in their monitors as a guide track, and that track being selected on the webcast mix by mistake). His live vocals were heard in the venue, however. 17. Papercut - Linkin Park feat. Machine Gun Kelly (Vocals) and Jon Green (Keys/Backing Vocals) -Some of Chester's studio vocals were on playback during the bridge and outro -Jon Green sang backups on the bridge and outro, however his vocals were inaudible on the webcast. 18. One Step Closer - Linkin Park feat. Jonathan Davis (Vocals), Ryan Shuck (Guitar), and Amir Derakh (Guitar) -2017 Extended intro -Brad, Amir, and Ryan all on guitars, however Mike didn't play guitar. 19. A Place for My Head - Linkin Park feat. Jeremy McKinnon -Extended guitar intro w/pause before first verse -Brad's guitar wasn't distorted for most of the first verse. 20. Rebellion - Mike Shinoda and Joe Hahn feat. Daron Malakian (Guitar/Vocals), Shavo Odadjian (Bass), and Frank Zummo (Drums) -Second guitar part on playback (Mike didn't play guitar like he has on this song in the past) -Daron's guitar was pretty out of tune during this song (almost on par with Brad's during Numb!). -Some of Chester's studio vocals were on playback throughout the song. -System of a Down drummer John Dolmayan was originally announced as a guest for the show (likely meaning he would have appeared on this song as well), but didn't end up performing. 21. The Catalyst - Linkin Park feat. Deryck Whibley (Vocals), Frank Zummo (Drums), and Jon Green (Keys/Backing Vocals) -Shortened (no second chorus or synth breakdown) -Frank Zummo didn't play on the whole song, just the bridge and outro (Rob was still playing as well). -Rather than playing on his own keyboard rig on the side of the stage, Jon Green played on Mike's keyboard rig at center stage on this song, and Mike didn't play keys at all. (Video tribute from U2, Metallica, Jared and Shannon Leto, Duff McKagan, Dave Gahan, and Paul McCartney) 22. I Miss You - Blink-182 -Extended outro 23. What I've Done - Blink-182, Mike Shinoda, Brad Delson, and Joe Hahn -2017 Extended intro -Double-time drum beat on last chorus and outro -Brad, Mike, and Matt Skiba all on guitars -Lead vocals shared by Matt Skiba and Mark Hoppus 24. In the End - Linkin Park -Chester's parts sung by audience (Encore break) (Speech by Talinda Bennington) (Chester speech from Birmingham 2017 video clip) 25. Iridescent - Linkin Park feat. Jon Green (Guitar) -Mike lead vocals on parts originally sung by Chester -Shortened (Bridge/final chorus only), essentially a conclusion of the part of the song that wasn't played during the opening medley. -Jon Green actually came out to the front of the stage while playing guitar on this song. 26. New Divide - Linkin Park -Live performance synced up with video footage and Chester's vocal track from 2014 Hollywood Bowl performance -Shortened (no first chorus or second verse) -Contrary to what's stated on the show page, the whole band was playing live on this. I'm not sure if any of the music from the 2014 performance was also synced up with the live mix, it just sounded like Chester's vocals to me. 27. A Light That Never Comes - Mike Shinoda, Steve Aoki, and Joe Hahn feat. Bebe Rexha (Vocals), Frank Zummo (Drums), and Marc VanGool (Guitar) -Steve Aoki played a few samples on Joe's DJ kit, but primarily ran around with a mic and hyped the crowd up during the performance. -Mike's guitar tech Marc unexpectedly played guitar on this song! He came out and stood near Joe's riser during the last chorus and outro. 28. Burn it Down - Linkin Park feat. M. Shadows (Vocals) 29. Faint - Linkin Park feat. M. Shadows (Vocals) and Synyster Gates (Guitar) -Extended outro w/Synyster Gates guitar solo -Brad, Mike, and Synyster Gates all on guitars -Synyster Gates's guitar solo during the outro was almost inaudible on the webcast, but was very prominent in person. 30. Bleed it Out/The Messenger - Linkin Park & Friends -The majority of the guests from throughout the night joined the band on stage for the final song. Most prominently featured were M. Shadows (Vocals), Synyster Gates (Guitar), Jon Green (Keys/Backing Vocals), and Frank Zummo (Drums). -Other guests who were on stage (some with microphones) included Ryan Key, Taka, Gavin Rossdale, Deryck Whibley, Steve Aoki, Sydney Sierota, Oliver Sykes, Amir Derakh, Ryan Shuck, Machine Gun Kelly, Steven McKellar, and DJ Z-Trip (who was the opening act, although not featured as a guest during the show itself). Noah and Graham Sierota from Echosmith were also on stage as well, despite not being featured as guests during the show. Graham actually created a pretty funny moment by jumping up on Rob's drum kit and playing drums while Rob was also still playing, so they were both playing on the same kit at the same time! -After the bridge, the song transformed into a reprise of The messenger (sort of like the electric full-band version from the beginning of the show, but obviously more in line musically with Bleed it Out's tempo and arrangement), culminating in a singalong of the chorus and the "oh-oh" vocals at the end. The band ended with this version of The Messenger, without transitioning back into Bleed it Out. This reprise was also in the key of A major, while the version at the beginning of the show was in the key of C major. -Frank Zummo only played drums for The Messenger portion (Rob and Graham continued playing on the other drum kit as well). (Steve Aoki's remix of One More Light was used as house music while the crowd was leaving)

For anyone who's curious, this was Z-Trip's full set: Mix #1: Stone Temple Pilots - Interstate Love Song Incubus - Wish You Were Here Pixies - Where is My Mind? (Bassnectar Remix) Jay-Z - Dirt Off Your Shoulder (Brillz & Z-Trip Remix) Nine Inch Nails - Closer Nirvana - In Bloom Tool - Stinkfist (YehMe2 Bootlegs Remix) (I think some of the original version was in there as well) Audioslave - Show Me How to Live Marilyn Manson - This is the New Shit DJ Zeph/Azeem - Rubber & Glue P.O.D. - Boom Dr. Dre/Snoop Dogg - Nothin' But a G Thang 2Pac/Dr. Dre - California Love Slash/Fergie/Cypress Hill - Paradise City Guns N' Roses - Paradise City Public Enemy - Rebel Without a Pause Jay-Z - I Just Wanna Love U (Give it 2 Me) X-Ecutioners - It's Goin' Down DJ Z-Trip - Listen to the DJ The Smiths - How Soon is Now? Clipse - When the Last Time Alice in Chains - Man in the Box Ministry - Thieves Tears for Fears - Shout Beastie Boys/Santigold - Don't Play No Game That I Can't Win (Z-Trip's Evil Twin Remix) Jane's Addiction - Been Caught Stealing Metallica - One Mix #2: The Beatles - Revolution Gwen Stefani - Spark the Fire Pink Floyd - Time/Breathe (Reprise) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus Beastie Boys - Sabotage (Alex Metric Remix) Walking Dead (played as a standalone track to end the set, extended intro, extended/remixed outro w/Chester's vocals mostly acapella) According to Z-Trip's Mixcloud upload of his set, there's something by 6blocc somewhere in there too, but I'm guessing it was just a beat or some small transitional piece between songs, as I can't find anything significant enough for Shazam to pick up. Note: From what I can tell, Joe Hahn did not guest during Z-Trip's set as has been reported elsewhere. Z-Trip gave Joe a shoutout at one point, as Joe was filming for his Instagram story from the side of the stage in view of the audience, but every clip I've seen of Dirt Off Your Shoulder/Closer only shows one person behind the turntables, and they don't switch out for somebody else at any point. Long detail-oriented write-up of the LP set incoming...

He had his own kit on Crawling, unless you mean on BIO at the end where he and Rob were playing on the same kit at the same time (which was funny to watch). It was a whole step down in drop B. They changed keys on quite a few songs to accommodate guests.

More clarification from Oli:

Audience video: Almost sounds like a completely different performance lol. I almost think he had a guide vocal in his IEMs that accidentally got put in the webcast mix.

Forgive me for actually being at the show. He's singing live on top of a prerecorded doubled vocal track. His live vocals were almost inaudible on the webcast, but that wasn't the case in person. Listen when they almost start the last chorus early - you can hear him come in early too, then the recorded vocal comes in at the right spot.

I didn't see any evidence of Oli lipsyncing nor can I logistically think of a way it would even be possible for him to do so.

You sure sound like you're GREAT at parties... 10/10 odds this guy didn't even listen to the remix.

I'll be there.

Whether it's archived or not is optional and up to the user broadcasting it.

Having just worked this out with Legend a few days ago, I can say if you want anything decent that's actually in Hollywood, you're looking at about $200/night minimum. If you're flying into LAX, hotels closer to the airport are quite a bit cheaper. There are a lot of options either way though, if money's not an issue.

LP has been using backing tracks for vocal parts (although primarily for harmonies and gang vocal parts) on a LOT of songs since ATS.

Serj can't even stand to be around his bandmates enough to work on the SOAD album that's been in the works for the last two years. Unless he's phoning in half-assed vocal performances for a paycheck via a SOAD tour riding on the coattails of his success from 15 years ago, he wants nothing to do with them. (Can you tell I don't like Serj? Lol)