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11.12.2009 Las Vegas, NV, The Joint @ Hard Rock Hotel, Holiday Havoc '09 - Still no show page for this one, even though the setlist was posted here almost a week ago: http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=3189

Waterface was the band Sean Dowdell started after Grey Daze broke up. They released one album in 2001, I believe.

Technically, Sessions@AOL, Stripped, Walmart Soundcheck, etc. were all part of the "Third Encore Sessions." LP just had the various film crews come in and film some of their rehearsals at Third Encore, it was just the ones they recorded themselves that were released as "Third Encore Session" songs on singles/the MTM MVI disc. All of those performances were probably within a few days of each other in mid-March of '07.

I find it absolutely hilarious that people still get their panties in such a wad over where bands play. Get over it. I'm sure this is just the beginning of a substantial European tour that has many unnanounced shows to come. Dead By Sunrise has played one real show in Germany up to this point. Tagging along on a tour and playing 3 songs in the middle of Linkin Park's set isn't a "DBS show." A one-song "live" performance (as in, live vocals and pre-recorded music) on a random TV show isn't a "DBS show." I have 100% confidence that the new LP album will be out in 2010. Also, I'm calling right now that the only setlist addition for the 2010 shows will be Into You, if they change the set at all.

He's friends with Ryan, Chester, and Talinda...I think he might be Ryan's roommate.

Church is HILARIOUS. Guy does so much crazy shit that has no logical explanation, haha.

Hmm...I don't think the order is quite the way I'd rank them, but for the most part, I agree with the songs on this list (although Seether has had far bigger hits than "Fine Again").

Any Muse set that includes the Man With a Harmonica intro to Knights of Cydonia is epic.

That's clearly not the acoustic version...listen to the clip.

There's also a persisting rumor that Chester's vocals were either removed from the final mix due to legal reasons or wound up not being used, so even if this does come out, there's no guarantee that Chester's going to be on the song.

I have all of them...I typically listen to the first few from a tour all the way through, then for the remaining ones I'll skim around to the various highlights of a show. My favorites are the first few 2008 shows - Hannover, Amneville, Basel, Frankfurt, Koln, and Paris. In terms of both the band and the DSPs themselves being at their best, I think those shows are the peak of the MTM touring cycle. I don't really listen to any of the DSPs a lot, but I never watch/listen to live shows "a lot" anyway. As big of a fan of LP's live performances as I am, I don't find that recordings of them have a whole lot of replay value. I haven't watched Live in Texas in over 2 years, and I think I've watched Road to Revolution maybe half a dozen times total. That's just how I am with live shows, I'll listen to them all the way through a few times, then I hardly listen to them again after that. The only DSP I really don't like is Nottingham 2008. 160 kbps = FAIL. Highlights I find myself listening to a lot are Rob's drum solos, Mike's piano solo spots, the intros/outros to Points of Authority, and the extended/remixed intros/outros to a bunch of other songs. One thing I would do with the DSPs is make sure there's ALWAYS a photo of the setlist included. There was for most 2008 shows, but they didn't do it in 2009. They should also be more uniform with the photos they include, I think there should be one really good shot of each band member, a crowd shot, and a setlist picture. It seems like they try to get pics of all the members at each show, but they often miss some of them. And bring back the .pdf tour booklets! As far as the mixing goes, I may be in the minority, but I stand firm in my belief that Pooch and Dylan's work has only gotten better with time. I still hate the sound of the guitars, but that's just a product of the equipment Brad's using these days more than anything.

Unless he's thinking of Detroit...because we're not Detroit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM (If that video works for anybody, let me know, because it's saying it's not available in my country...?)

Acoustic version: 4:05. Also, the live version from Ulalume is like 4:54 on the rip I have, so it's pretty much guaranteed that the live version on the single will be a full electric version.

I don't see how anybody can prefer the live version of ANY DBS song over the studio version (Let Down being the only possible exception with the awesome live ending compared to the stupid fade-out on the studio version). They suck ass live...and Fire is easily one of the 3 best songs on the album. Anyway, there are digital releases of non-singles that come with artwork. The iTunes release of Dirt Off Your Shoulder/Lying From You comes to mind.

Highly doubt it will happen. Korn has been giving that same answer to the question of when/if Korn Kovers is going to be released for years. It's always "yeah we're still working on it...it'll be out next year/before the next Korn album, for sure!" In addition to the performance royalties that would be owed to Welch and Silveria, Korn Kovers was started while Korn was still under contract with Sony. I don't see how Korn would be able to obtain the rights to release it, as Sony owns it.

Geki's going to try to tell me I'm wrong no matter what I say. I'm used to it by now.

Funny, I was just at an independent record store in Cleveland the other day that has a stock of over 10,000 CDs, and I'd say a good 90% of them were in jewel cases.

What they may or may not have is irrelevant, we know they have a bunch of older stuff. They're only releasing shows from 2007 onwards, period. My theory is that LP can only release stuff like this for shows that Pooch was their live sound engineer for. Either that, or it's something they gained the right to do when they renegotiated their contract with Warner, so anything before that wouldn't be their choice to release.

I don't think Brad's guitar sound is something that can be fixed with better mixing. Ever since he switched to the Randall modeling preamps for the MTM cycle, his tone has been way thinner than it used to be. Such is the dilemma of a lot of guitarists, if you want more versatility in your sound, you usually have to sacrifice some tone to get it. I'm anxious to see if he makes some changes to his rig for the new album touring cycle.

LOL @ West Coast fail. So surprised...NOT!

Fuck. I had a bunch of shit happen at home last night and forgot all about the webcast. Hopefully somebody else comes through with a good rip. Otherwise, you can all blame this one on me. =/

I wouldn't be surprised at all if this turns out to be DBS's last show in the United States.

Have the DBS music videos even been getting airplay on television? I haven't heard anybody mention seeing them on TV.

I think a lot of the lack of promotion can be blamed on the label not wanting DBS to compete with LP. There wasn't a new LP album on the horizon when Fort Minor came out, so it got a bigger push. At times, it almost seems like Warner wants to sweep DBS under the rug. I suppose some blame can be placed on the band as well for not getting the album done sooner. If the album had been released a year earlier, they could've spent a good 6 months doing hardcore DBS promotion, taken a break for the New Divide-related stuff and subsequent LP tour, then done some more shows towards the end of the year and in early 2010.

I've heard the same edit on two different Cleveland-area stations. Both stations played the full song when it first came out but switched to the edit after a few weeks.