Astat

Brand new as in previously unreleased. No idea how old it is. An interesting observation I'd like to point out is that the ringtone is titled "Brad's Yo," and there was also a seed from the MTM sessions called "Yo (Unsolved Mysteries)." I wonder if they're the same thing? It certainly sounds like something that could easily be an unfinished seed.

Why would Never Let Me Down, which was produced by Mike, be based off an instrumental track by Brad...? I hear absolutely no similarities whatsoever.

If you look on the media player on linkinpark.com, you'll notice a new banner for a promotion with Monster Energy advertising "exclusive ringtones, downloads, and tracks." This takes you to the following link: http://www.monsterenergy.com/web/linkin-park/login Once you sign up and log in, it takes you to a new LP-themed Monster Energy website with a ton of cool content! Notable features include the following: -An mp3 download of 'Bleed it Out' from the Transformers 2 premiere show -An exclusive ringtone entitled 'Brad's Yo' which is a brand new instrumental track (think along the lines of Mike's short instrumentals from the 2005 VMAs) -A Chester-themed wallpaper download -A Hybrid Theory-themed screensaver -Numerous contests, including a weekly signed CD giveaway, a monthly LPU membership giveaway, a quarterly signed guitar giveaway, and a grand prize trip to see Linkin Park perform overseas sometime in 2010 or 2011. Judging from the layout of the site, it appears that more exclusive content (mp3 downloads/ringtones/wallpapers/screensavers) will be added in the future. Could this mean more new music soon? Thanks MinutesToNothing for the news!

Dear god, I would hope they'd have enough self-respect to steer away from something that atrocious. That song was already embarrassingly bad the first time it was recorded, yet Simon Cowell managed to make it a hundred times worse.

There must have been some sort of legal issues going on there, because first the track changed (it was originally Make Tomorrow Today, then switched to Heroes like a day after it went up), then a week or so later it was removed from the player (but was still in the download until these new tracks were added), and now Peter Gabriel's name isn't even mentioned on the MFR website in the list of artists involved in the compilation.

If you watch the live performances on the Collision Course DVD, you can clearly see his Marshall JCM sitting at the back of the stage. My understanding of it is that he used both the JCM and the Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier for distorted parts so he could have a thicker sound (as well as have his distorted parts routed in stereo), but all of his clean parts and anything with a lo-fi effect on it only came out of the Dual Rectifier. I still think that rig gave him the best guitar sound he's ever had.

Ahh, that one came out in April of '04 (meaning it was probably the May or June issue). I do have a better scan of it, here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8VM0MRVJ

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You know the intro is a synth sample and the guitar doesn't come in until 0:06, right? The guitar sounds totally different from the album version when it comes in.

Those kind of editing inconsistencies apply to probably 75% of live DVDs/videos that aren't sourced from raw video feeds. Live in Texas literally does that at least half a dozen times in each song.

In order for a song to be classified as a single, there has to be some type of retail release for the song, either as a CD single or a digital download. If you just go off of video/radio play, Points of Authority, FRGT/10, and Lying From You would technically be classified as singles, but none of them were. It might happen, it might not. Personally, I don't think it will, especially with the remake of We Are the World being a huge charity single for Haiti now, but I could be wrong.

They clearly spent a ton of time cleaning this up and editing the footage...I can only hope there's a DVD planned for this.

Eh, just another one of the many songs that use the same chord progression as New Divide/What I've Done. You'll find similarities in a bunch of songs if you look around enough.

LOL, you guys should really listen to some more shows from the 2000-2002 era, there were a ton of mistakes back then that blow away some of these in terms of hilarity. I've always wanted to make a compilation of some of my favorites, but never had time to dig for all of them.

Alright, this thread is just begging for another one of my lists...and it's probably going to catch a lot of crap from people, but oh well: Astat's Top 10 worst Linkin Park songs: 10. Bleed it Out This isn't necessarily a bad song, but it makes the list purely because of how terrible the studio recording of it is. The "party" background noise may have seemed like a good idea at the time, but it adds nothing to the song. And even without it, the studio recording seems too slow and lifeless, not to mention that it's way too short. If there's any song in the Linkin Park catalog where the live version destroys the studio version in every way imaginable, this is it. 9. Breaking the Habit Again, not necessarily a bad song. I think it's a great musical piece, and it was a nice departure from the type of instrumentation Linkin Park was mostly known for at the time. But lyrically, as with a lot of the material on Meteora, this song practically spoon-feeds the words to the listener - "I don't know how I got this way, I know it's not all right." Seriously? Mike claims the lyrics to this song took him 5 years to write. You'd think in that timespan, he would've been able to come up with some metaphors. 8. Nobody's Listening A cool instrumental vibe and two of Mike's dopest verses...with a cringe-worthy chorus that all but ruins the song. 7. Somewhere I Belong I like this song instrumentally. But the fact that Don Gilmore made them re-write the lyrics to this song approximately 50 times is clear as day. The lyrical delivery from both Mike and Chester on this one is as mechanical and devoid of emotion as it gets. As with Breaking the Habit, I simply can't understand why these lyrics took them so long. They re-wrote the chorus over 40 times just to arrive at one that rhymes "heal" "feel" and "real"...twice in each chorus. Really? 6. By Myself Blah, what a boring song. Brad, that 2-chord guitar riff might have sounded cool the first couple times you played it, but did you really have to repeat it 96 fucking times in a row? The lyrics also disappoint me on this one, as Mike removed/changed some of his more interesting parts from the various demo versions - "If sunlight burns the skin of sleeping men" is a WAY cooler line than "Because I can't hold on when I'm stretched so thin." By far the weakest link on Hybrid Theory, it was my least favorite song on the album the first time I listened to it all the way through in early 2002, and it remains so to this day. I think the remake of High Voltage should have made the album in favor of this song. 5. In Between Mike's lead vocal debut is probably the most boring song in the Linkin Park catalog. He sings well and it's a nice melody, but there's not much emotion in his voice, and musically...where the hell is this song's climax? It sounds like it should build up to something bigger, but it never goes anywhere. How songs like No Roads Left and Across the Line were cut from the album in favor of this is beyond me. 4. Don't Stay Quite boring instrumentally (except for the bridge being kind of cool), minimal vocal input from Mike, and on Meteora, which is by far Chester's worst album from a lyrical standpoint, this is never a good thing. The fact that they chopped 13 seconds off of this song, made it a seperate track, gave it a new name, and called it an "intro" to make it look like their second album had more songs than their first always bugged the hell out of me too. 3. High Voltage (original Hybrid Theory EP version) Blahhh. The remake of this song found on the One Step Closer single is superior in every way. The robot voice on the hook of this version is about as derivative as Linkin Park gets - it's a blatant rip-off of Intergalactic by the Beastie Boys, which was a huge hit around the time this was recorded. No coincidence there. 2. Numb Any song that opens with the line "I'm tired of being what you want me to be" is an automatic lyrical piece of shit in my book. Very boring instrumentally as well - built around arguably the most overused chord progression in popular music. The fact that this song (and music video) made all the wannabe "emo" teenies jump on the Linkin Park bandwagon royally pisses me off too - they showed up 6 and a half years ago and never left. 1. Hit the Floor The fact that the band had to make a big deal out of the riff in this song starting on the offbeat instead of the downbeat like it was something revolutionary pretty much sums up what a turd this song is. Musically, lyrically, vocally, there are no redeeming qualities to be found in this song. If this song was worthy of making the album, I'm not surprised at all that they never released any Meteora b-sides. I didn't include anything from Reanimation on this list because I don't think it's really fair to include full-blown remixes in the same list as completely original songs. If I were to include Reanimation, H! VLTG3 would definitely make the list (easily in the top 2 or 3), and Enth e Nd might be on there too.

Wrong. None of that studio footage is from them recording the song other than Chester doing the vocals and the shots of the band around the computer and stuff. The clip of Rob playing drums looks like it's reused from the Making of New Divide video, and the shot of Phoenix playing guitar doesn't even come remotely close to matching up with the guitar part in the song. The entire instrumental portion of the song is probably 3 years old, maybe more, so why would there be 2010 studio footage of the band playing the instrumental parts?

I think the only reason the shots of Chester in the sunglasses are in the video is so it doesn't come across as something along the lines of "Meh, let's just slap some studio footage and newsreel footage from Haiti together and call it a music video." They probably wanted some kind of "performance" footage to mix in there. And I don't really think this increases the chances of them playing the song live (unless the video goes into heavy rotation on TV and/or a CD single is released), but if they don't play it live, it would be noteworthy in that it would be the first song since the Reanimation days to have a music video but never be performed on stage.

What the hell?! I just re-downloaded it again, and the new tracks are nowhere to be found for me. I still get the 10-track version with Peter Gabriel's Heroes in it whenever I download it.

Just checked the download, the new tracks haven't been added to it yet. I'm sure they will be soon enough.

Uhh...you guys do realize that Rob's done LPU chats since the one where he talked about Drum Song, right? His last one was only like 4 months ago, and it was one of the best ones ever in terms of new information.

Watch them pull all their shit from Youtube again because of this.

Did you know? "linkinpark.com" has 13 letters in it. So does "nutsack bandit." Coincidence? You decide.

Considering Chester's stated several times that he doesn't intend DBS to be a one-time-only thing, if they're going to make more music somewhere down the line, why wouldn't he want to know what they could do better the next time around? Obviously he believes in the music he made with this album, and a lot of people seem to like it, so that doesn't really explain why DBS wasn't very successful commercially. There are other areas that need to be improved on if DBS is ever going to amount to anything significant, and fan feedback is a good way to find out what needs to be addressed. You can bet that if DBS makes another album, Chester's going to revamp their management team significantly and focus on doing better promotion. The number of people who have mentioned DBS's lack of promotion isn't going to be ignored.

DBS WAS NOT booed off the stage at Epicenter. "Booed off the stage" implies that the band cut their set short and left because people were booing them so much. That did not happen, therefore they were not booed off the stage.

Bottom line: Until we can hear the record and make our own judgements, anything that comes out of the mouth of any of the band members that attempts to describe it can be taken with a huge grain of salt. Look at everything that was said about how MTM sounded vs. what it actually sounded like. When you're pushing a new product, you try to give it as much mass appeal as possible, so you find every adjective under the sun that you can use to describe it. It's what I lovingly refer to as PRBS - Public Relations Bullshit.