hahninator Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Linkin Park's performance of "The Requiem" last night raised some eyebrows among fans. Why? It appears that Mike lipsynched vocals for the first known time in LP live history. Watch him sing; Mike looks to be pretending to sing the actual part while the studio vocals from "The Requiem" play. Check out the YouTube video For "Fallout", it appears the studio vocals played as well, but Mike appears to be singing over them. Video of that Your thoughts, LP fans? Is he really lip synching? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coizu Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 vocoder? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggiee2180@aol.com Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 You posted the same link twice man. I couldn't really tell from where I was whether or not he just let the studio version play while he just moved his lips, but in Mike's defense The Fallout does eventually fade into his unaltered lyrics towards the end. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecanoLP Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) Could definately be lipsynching... It would be fine if they just played the intro without Mike trying to let us know he is actually singing though. Edited September 15, 2010 by DecanoLP Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LESTAT Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I'll quote my own post: I think it's pretty obvious that he pretends to sing through a vocal filter, but it's actually just a recording. Mark pointed it out not because he sounds like a girl, but because it's totally identical to the studio recording. We could be wrong, of course. Need to A-B this live version and the studio version to be completely sure. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ana Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) I believe that its a mix (recorded + live) + you cant call that lipsyncing...this is not a chant this has a lot of effects and you cant see anything on the video Edited September 15, 2010 by ana Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minusxero Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Hello. Welcome to the world of vocal effects. A vocoder was probably used. Also, your post links to the Fallout/Catalyst video twice rather than to The Requiem. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 Fixed the link; sorry. Could definately be lipsynching... It would be fine if they just played the intro without Mike trying to let us know he is actually singing though. Agreed. I think he really is lipsynching this; no way they can get that to sound EXACTLY like the studio version. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggiee2180@aol.com Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 To be honest I think he's singing very low along with the studio recordings. Cause I could have sworn for a brief moment that heard him singing very very low along with the song Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCastro Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 lipsynching? I don't believe... I guess it's his voice there (who never made a different voice?) Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lparcshinoda Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 You know ... It's an easy part to sing, and audio quality of the videos we've got doesn't let us judge totally if it's similar or just THE SAME track played and lip-synched. Maybe with DSP and pro-shots videos if they'll release those. Anyway, I think it's not - it would be a REAL disappointment. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coizu Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Maybe he just wants everyone to know that he's the girl on the intro But I don't care if he pretends to sing on 'The Requiem' as long as the rest of the set stays live Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero21 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 no way they can get that to sound EXACTLY like the studio version. Yeah there really is. His voice is so deluded and propped up by effects, that even if the tone of his voice didn't match the album, or he kinda sorta missed a note here or there, you wouldn't be able to tell. It's not like it's particularly hard to sing either. He probably sang it really well, and the effects did the rest. And as someone else mentioned before, there's no reason for him to lip-sync it. They could easily just play it pre-recorded. The fact that Mike even bothered to sit down on stage is proof to me that he's singing it, along with the other reasons I gave. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwerty18 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I will also quote what I've said in the other thread... Yes, it sounds identical to the album version, almost sure. And I don't understand why Mike is doing that since there's no shame to only use sample of this female voice. It would make way more sense than faking a performance by him singing like a female... But he could also sing very low along the studio recording, like somebody said. What doesn't change the fact he looks stupid with that freaking female voice IMO. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I dont think he is. Actually im always 100 percent sure. in the studio version, the first verse says " will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns" but in the video the first verse says "as we burn." Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borellus Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Who cares if he is, at least it's not a main song lipsynching to. When he did it live during the Q&A on Kevin & Bean show it didn't sound the album version to me, maybe it was just too crappy live so he used the studio version until they could figure something out. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I dont think he is. Actually im always 100 percent sure. in the studio version, the first verse says " will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns" but in the video the first verse says "as we burn."\am i right or am i wrong? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoukan Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Why would he have a reason to? If it's the same effect as they used in the studio, then it should be easy to recreate. I dont think he is. Actually im always 100 percent sure. in the studio version, the first verse says " will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns" but in the video the first verse says "as we burn."And this is true, so i don't think he is. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftshoe18 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 He's definitely just using vocal effects. If you use a vocoder, you input the pitches you are hitting on a keyboard or other device. It would make sense that his pitch would be perfect if he's using a vocoder. It's like adding words to a synthesizer melody. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christos_17 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 \am i right or am i wrong? I hear that as well. That and it sounds like a higher pitch than the studio recording, but that could just be me. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGinge Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Kramer is right, the lyrics are different by that one word. leftshoe18 has got it right too, I mean, if they can make Jedward sound slightly less horrific then I'm sure they can tweak the pitch of his voice. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
praya Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I think it's both. First off I'm pretty sure you don't sing in to the particular vocoder he was using. You speak into it monotonously and when you play the keys on the vocoder it turns it into a sung effect. So I don't think he would really have any reason to really lip synch because it wouldn't be that hard to recreate the song. With that being said you do have to have someone playing a keyboard if he was to be using a vocoder like that. And from what I can see there was no one playing the keyboard to adjust the pitches. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I dont think he is. Actually im always 100 percent sure. in the studio version, the first verse says " will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns" but in the video the first verse says "as we burn."This is what I hear as well. A lyric messup means that this likely isn't lipsynced. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFace Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Seriously, people, it's "The Requiem"... Who gives a shit if he lipsynches this very song? Like someone pointed out, he can just leave it for the pre-record to play and no one would give a damn. Mike has done that before - mouthing words instead of singing into the mic during Chester's parts, so it's not like he was pretending to sing or whatever, because, WELL, OBVIOUSLY, he didn't have to pretend anything (let's be honest with each other, there's nothing to prove with this song). And again, it's "The Requiem"... I don't get why you have to make a fuss out of this, Mark. Boo, really. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lparcshinoda Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I dont think he is. Actually im always 100 percent sure. in the studio version, the first verse says " will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns" but in the video the first verse says "as we burn." that's it - mike sings "will we burn" in the album version, both verses. In the live version he did a mistake and on verse 1 we have "as we burn" - just to shut up all of you haters he did it right in the second verse, singing "will we burn" correctly. Anyway, starting "female-like" chorus are done by him as well and sound different from the album ones. Point. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5584-the-requiem-mike-lipsynching/#findComment-101630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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