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I highly doubt that. Mark Wakefield is credited for it on BMI. http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&page=1&keyid=11261859&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeqNbr=0&querytype=WorkID

Wow I really said "holy shit this APFMH sounds incredible " - then the ends gives away that it's Live in Texas. Why in the world would he use that? Audio from 12 years ago?

As many of you have heard by now, Scott Weiland has passed away. Scott was a rock legend and influenced Chester more than we would ever know. It's no secret how big of a fan Linkin Park was of Stone Temple Pilots. When Chester took over as lead singer of STP in 2013 and was continually asked about Scott in interviews, he never said one single bad thing about him - ever. No matter what may have happened in the past few years, they were friends for an extended period of time and Chester did his best to honor both Scott and the music that Scott & STP created when he sang with them for two years. Scott toured the world relentlessly with The Wildabouts recently and even talked about another possible STP reunion in the future, something he wanted because of how big of a fan he was of his own work. He clearly loved music and that was his passion. The world has lost a true rock star. Rest in peace.

As of the LP Underground 15 launch, Linkin Park seems to have closed their live downloads website for shows that they were selling online. Previously hosted at downloads.linkinpark.com, the band had 229 shows available for fans. That link now redirects to Wonderful Union, the company that built the new Linkin Park website. Originally started in 2007 as a live CD program at merch booths, the downloads later moved online where they hosted most Linkin Park shows from 2007 to 2012. Unfortunately, the program was ended at the end of 2012, with the South Africa 2012 shows being the last ones sold. More information on the previously available shows can be found here. LPLive tried to encourage Linkin Park to restart the DSP program via an open letter to the band and management in 2013 and a petition to the band and management in 2015. We never received a reply about the petition, and with the DSP website being offline for over a week, it appears as if the website will not resurface and that any chance for newer or older live show downloads has ended. Since the band heavily advocated sharing the shows from 2007 to 2009 between fans (and even making a thread on the LPU to do so), we have a thread discussing the best means for fans to now get the shows. Sorry guys. If anything changes, such as the site going back up, we will let you know.

Skipees and I tried to research the show. http://gdansk.naszemiasto.pl/archiwum/karolina-to-dla-ciebie-zagralismy,784264,art,t,id,tm.htmlThis appears to have been written on 9/1. It isn't Greenwood Village or Albuquerque. Not sure which show.

I have never seen this before. I think it will be really hard to figure out what show this is.

Anything that can't be obtained on the LPU site currently like Lockjaw is fine to post here. Edit: http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=12078New thread for the sharing discussion, since I got an answer today.

I think the band (or Blackened Records, their label the band started) absorbs a lot of the costs on that. They have a lot of money to throw around. Linkin Park does too, but they don't seem willing to front the cost for some of it. LP could MAKE money on the DSPs if they really wanted to, simply by advertising. They have the ability to promote it on the screens at shows, and they have the RARE ability to reach all of their millions of Facebook followers with every post they make (something Mike revealed in that leaked Google Glass video). Metallica does a great job with theirs, in fact the CDs they ship for shows now look REALLY good. $11.99 for a CD, how much can they really make on that? FLAC for $6.49 and mp3 for $4.99. They seem to be doing it for the fans, not to make money. And they even give shows away for free.

I realize I have a biased opinion on this subject, but you can't blame the fansites for being bigger than the LPU. Us posting one LPU song *ever* on Facebook/Twitter was successful, sure, but it isn't the reason why the LPU is dead. The sole reason the LPU forums died is because they literally ransacked and deleted the entire forum in 2008 or 2009. It was THE thriving place for the online Linkin Park community, and that's pretty much why we didn't have an active forum on LPLive. With LPA, LPU, and LPF (LinkinParkForums), there really wasn't a need for us. We did have a forum starting around summer 2008, mainly because we finally needed a place internally to discuss all the new setlists the band was going through. When the LPU upgraded, they lost the entire community, years of threads, the Mike posts, etc, and really damaged their community beyond repair. It's literally irreplaceable, especially at this point. Most of the hardcore fans are on the fansites now, and that has a lot to do with the uncertainty of how stable the LPU forums will be year after year. And I will say that one thing that is NOT helping is integrating the LPU to LinkinPark.com, removing the exclusive LPU website. One thing that helps LPL and LPA is the consistency in the forums and website. We don't redesign every year and we keep posts for as long as possible. Thank God LPA hasn't ever deleted their forums because we still actively access information from 2004-2006+ on their archives, almost weekly. (I wish we hadn't let LPTimes die, because some of their stuff is hard to find now.) I learned years ago that you can't MAKE people pay for the LPU. Enough of us support it that it will keep going, though. The Summits, the CDs, the chats, etc will keep it going. If anything, LPL and LPA support the LPU wholeheartedly. That's why they want us on board with it and they go out of their way to explain the new versions and changes to us. I agree with you about Mike's posting - he hasn't posted on the LPU in eyars. I let Lorenzo know firsthand how disappointed I was in 2014 when Chideo got about 12-15+ exclusive videos on Carnivores by the band, but the LPU got nothing. Lorenzo fixed that immediately and you'll see how many LPUTV videos he's gotten posted since then. I could go on for days about the LPU, but the dynamic has changed. The band obviously isn't as interested in giving exclusive content anymore or interacting in the LPU community, but Lorenzo does a good job getting all the videos and all the chats. He saw fans wanted Making of THP, and he got it done, for example.

Demonoid was the main source for literally 99% of the 2007-2009 ones so it's likely we have the same ones. However, it's also really easy to retag it properly with the correct tags. Just 7/28/2007 is the one that's not right for me but I can fix it.

I have all 229 of them but I do think about 2-3 of my very early PR07 ones (between Auburn and Mountain View), so like Marysville and San Bernardino or something aren't tagged correctly. Someone messed with the tags before they shared them. Maybe someone has the original ones. No response from Lorenzo yet.

Give me a break. That's not blatantly supporting piracy, if anything that's advertising to people to purchase a membership. We made a lengthy post when LPU dropped on social media, including where to buy it, and the website post is included in that statement. Never have I posted an LPU song on social media like that before, but it got a great reaction and got people talking so I'll definitely do it again. The more people that see it and like what they hear will purchase it. There's a direct correlation there. You'd be surprised how many casual LP fans had/have no idea LPU came out. Hell, there's more discussion on that song in that one FB post than there is on our entire forum. We are engaging the fans, not supporting piracy. If I supported piracy then I'd post a fucking download link on the forum here. Christ.

Over the years, there has been a lot of discussion about the seventeen songs that Linkin Park recorded and mixed for Minutes To Midnight. Starting with 100 to 150 "seeds" and slowly whittling them down over the course of months, they ended up with seventeen that they recorded for the album. Eleven of these final seventeen were chosen for Minutes To Midnight, plus Wake as an album intro. The quote where the number originated is from 2007, ''The band whittled down the number of songs to 17, then narrowed that number even further until they had 12 songs.'' However, Rob said, "We ended up recording 17 total. We put 10 of those, plus an intro, on the album." This means Wake likely isn't counted as part of the 17. The topic has been brought up again as Chance Of Rain from the LP Underground 15 album carries a date of 2006 and has vocals on it. There is a debate on which seventeen the band is referring to. There are eleven actual songs on the album... 01. Wake 02. Given Up 03. Leave Out All The Rest 04. Bleed It Out 05. Shadow Of The Day 06. What I've Done 07. Hands Held High 08. No More Sorrow 09. Valentine's Day 10. In Pieces 11. In Between 12. The Little Things Give You Away Beyond these eleven, five more have been released in the following years. 13. No Roads Left NRL was released as a bonus track on iTunes for Minutes To Midnight, and Linkin Park actually came very close to playing it live in 2008. In July 2007, Rob said, "We have four or five other songs that are kind of really good and almost done." An interesting fact about this song is that a different version with additional sampled drums was released in the 2013 Studio Collection. 14. Across The Line This song was released on the LP Underground 9 CD. Mike said about the song, "It was recorded during the “Minutes To Midnight” sessions, and was originally entitled “Japan.” Across the Line just baaarely missed the cut. If there were 12 songs, I think it was #13. It was in progress around the same time as most of the songs from MTM. No More Sorrow, LOATR, LTGYA, etc." It was later discovered that Linkin Park had edited the song down for release, removing its build-up intro, heard in full on the leaked LPU 9 Acetate CD. 15. Blackbirds Blackbirds is one of these songs because it had strings recorded for it, seen on the Minutes To Midnight DVD. It was released as the final prize in the 8 Bit Rebellion game in 2010. At the time, Mike said, "When you finish the game, you get access to "Blackbirds" which is a brand new Linkin Park song that we basically finished specifically to this game." It wouldn't be surprising if the band did some final editing or work to the song, since that's common for them. 16. What We Don't Know This song was released on the LP Underground X CD. It was mixed by Neal Avron, who mixed Minutes To Midnight, meaning it made it to the final stages aka the last batch of songs before the final ones for the album were selected. Brad said about the track, "That was the song that we started during the Minutes To Midnight writing period, and we kind of left it as it is, and then never really finished it." The debate is that there is likely an eighteenth song, since Rob said they "ended up recording 17 total and put 10 of those, plus an intro, on the album." Ten songs is obviously incorrect...he meant eleven, but the point about an intro means that Wake wasn't counted as one of the 17. When No Roads Left was released, he mentions there are "four or five" more songs. At the end of the day, we seem to be one song short. During the process of recording the album, there were obviously many other songs that did not make it to the final 17 that have been released. Some of these include QWERTY, Announcement Service Public, Pale, Debris, and the more recent Chance Of Rain. Pretend To Be has the 2008 date, meaning it was worked on after 2007. The Last Line (Ammosick) is a song seen on the Minutes To Midnight DVD and was finally released in 2014 on the Mall soundtrack. The mixing was done by Neal Avron, but Neal also mixed A Thousand Suns too. Ammosick was seen on a songboard under Ammosick/The Last Line during the ATS DVD, so it was at least being worked on at that time. An interesting fact about the song is that the version actually in Mall appears to be an earlier version. Being the perfectionist that he is, Mike seems to have gone in more recently and changed the lyrics to the second verse before releasing it digitally on the soundtrack. Not Alone was a song recorded during the MTM sessions but wasn't finalized until 2010. About the track, Mike said, "We had a demo [for 'Not Alone'] — the music was laid out, we had done the song a little while ago ... we just never used it because we never thought it was done." Brad said, "This was a track that we originally worked on with Rick Rubin during the Minutes To Midnight sessions, and one of our favorites, and it unfortunately didn't make it on the album, but fortunately we had it on a semi-finished form." Our final conclusions are that it is possible that Not Alone and/or Ammmosick could be one or both of the tracks, or that those tracks are simply completely unknown to us in any regard. The mystery continues. What do you think?

http://lplive.net/wiki/db/releases/digital-souvenir-packages

Then they are free to share here if they are no longer available to purchase. But before we make that official, let me email Lorenzo and make sure they aren't planning on relaunching it or something.

Mike picked them all several months ago. The LPU is working on something for that. Hope so! The CD is cool, I don't necessarily have a problem with it. It's hard to explain, I think the same type of stuff every year is making people have unrealistic expectations. People really want Pictureboard, I even saw someone on Twitter ask Lorenzo about the Meteora "b-side", etc. And then we have a second half to wait for. People aren't a big fan it seems, no matter how good a few of the tracks are. All the instrumentals really drive people crazy I think too lol. But from what we can tell, LP doesn't have this incredibly big collection of demos with vocals. Chester used to be the last thing to go on any track so there surely isn't a ton with him vocally left in the catalogue. Here's the thing - they obviously don't want to release Pictureboard or the Meteora b-side or anything SUPER rare. If they aren't interested in it, that's fine with me. Maybe they come out someday, maybe not. I still enjoy this format on the CD more than any other format. I'll take these demos any day of the week over a live release or something like remixes. As far as the release goes, I think it could be improved. 6 on CD and 6 digital means 6 don't get a CD release, and maybe they only release mp3 and not FLAC of the songs. FMM did all digital, so none got a CD release. Needtobreathe does a really cool thing that I like. For their fanclub, they release 12 digitally a year (so one per month) and at the end of the year, they mail you a CD with all 12 songs. And then there are 2 bonus tracks on there that no one ever knew about, as a total surprise. 14. Pretty neat.

December 11th. https://www.facebook.com/musicforrelief/photos/a.10150653977194633.402835.85950614632/10153400866629633/?type=3&theater

No. http://lplive.net/wiki/db/exclusives/plectrum-guide

Yeah Aoki said he's releasing it himself.

Thanks. Black Market and Deep Beat dropped from the last show, weird. I wonder why they'd play just 9 songs headlining? I'd play at least 12-15, dang.

I'd like to include the individual country flags for the UK instead of the generic UK flag. England Wales Northern Ireland Scotland Thoughts?

Not to my knowledge, no, unless this person has some insider information.