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my point is that it makes no business sense to have the same headliners again, no festival would ever book the same headliners in years back to back so they don't alienate less keen customers, so it seems odd that HCT is doing it. I'm not saying I don't want to see them booked again, because more tours means more fun! it's just strange...

nice, thank you guys! I'd help with the uploads if i could

No, nor me. I love hearing the demos, and I often don't care what era they're from - the thought processes are really interesting to hear. Haha yeah, I doubt if we'll ever hear those demos we've all been pining for, but I still love being surprised by some gems that we all had no idea existed! It's all relative.

Like I said, it makes NO sense WHATSOEVER having LP back, but it looks likely... It remains to be seen whether they are just using pictures of LP for the hell of it. That recent one is definitely chester - that's his posture, no question

a couple of things like odd spelling and grammar in places. I've got trapped on two separate levels because presumably the triggers to the next part didn't activate, had to restart, plus I changed the graphics level and lost the ability to select my the "power" i was using which was odd... and i don't get how the fuck you're meant to save humans, but still, neat game, I do like it - nice graphics, I like the music and it has kept me playing for a while now - it has the same short, sappy level progression as Angry Birds (which I am a total sucker for...). needs a few fixes, but that's what beta's for by the way, for all those who are hoping for an app, i highly doubt we'll see that. those blue energy tokens you exchange to play levels/revive at your current point etc. are given to you in a finite quantity, my guess is that these will be the "currency" for the game, and its likely that you will have to pay for them if you run out. tons of facebook games do this, and it makes sense - hook your users on the game, then ask them to give you money to carry on playing. I hate, hate, hate the way FB games do this, but this will be what ties the game to the platform. I would really like to see an app for this too, but I'm not going to hod my breath for them to adjust the way they shake the money out of you

my guess is there that there won't be a huge amount of demos from LT since the process was so fast. they obviously recorded a lot of stuff, but nothing compared to how big a bank of demos they have for say, MTM or ATS

this looks like a sweet angle. although I need to save my bandwidth right now, will keep an eye out for the DVD

I'd totally forgotten that that topic existed haha! If this is pretty much confirmed, I call that a really weird move on the part of the promoters, for booking essentially the same tour, and the band for bullshitting on the whole "only US date of 2013" thing... Maybe they'll cover all the places in the us that didn't get to see the band last time...

i might buy it, don't have the money right now, but the guy seems to be re-listing it into oblivion... we'll see *shrug* it finally got sold. But not to me, it remains to be seen wether we see anything from that cd again... got my copy of the Family Values CD through today

Fall Out Boy played on school playgrounds (high school?), although they're not on a worldwide tour (I don't think) and have only ever been nominated for a Grammy... They don't seem to match the description, but they'd be a pretty solid part of that tour though - the hype for them is insane right now...

I cannot imagine for one second that HCT would want to have the same headliners back from last year. Someone (sorry, I didn't quote and can't remember) made a valid point that these might simply be pictures of previous acts just to get people to notice the posts. Yes, these pictures are clearly brad, but are we looking too far into their inclusion. The promoters have probably made it hard to identify them as LP so that people don't assume on first glance that it is going to be LP, just a picture of a guitarist playing...

my money's on Rubin again. they work with him a lot, but each album still manages to sound different each time, which is pretty cool.

still, it's labelled as an LPTV. so, to the newswire with you!!

you have both said exactly what I was about to say! yeah, I'm a little disappointed, but some other fans (in places the band has never been before) got to hear some king-size sets, it's not all bad in terms of good songs in well-deserved places. we're all just jealous is it possible to volunteer for work on Rock 'N Heim? I've done that in the past and you can often pick a times that'll let you get to see the bands you're interested in, it's a bit harder for bigger, corporate festivals, but it might be worth looking into if you cant afford the ticket

it does sound more like a mic feed than an IEM. people say that the band use a click track live and other instruments mixed in to personal preference, so if that source is an IEM, it seems odd that it would be missing those extra bits of sound.

please use the "quote" function people - it's easier to see who's replying to what with proper links to things! thank you

ahhh ok, I could tell that LP would get given copies of stuff since, like you say, they use clips in their LPTVs. I'm interested in the fact that festivals get to keep stuff for promo, although I'm guessing they too would only get the small selection of songs like the TV company would...? if not, *begins heist preparations*

i concur with both of these statements. there wasn't a "" option for the "do you care about the brands LP wears?" question

I have a quick question about the availability of stuff from festivals. I know that - for example, Sonisphere UK '09 - was filmed during the show in full for the big screens, and I know that a few songs were then broadcast a week or so later. my question is what happens to the full pro-shot? I guess they save the whole tape so they can select bits for a broadcast, but do you think that that's something that would then get stored away, or would the company just keep those few songs that they'd already picked out for broadcast. I am aware that stuff may vary between companies, licenses, festival etc. it might sound like a really stupid question but I won't find out by not asking...

I would be willing to hear anything, but shows we have nothing for would be a much nicer thing to see come out. that said, my fragile little connection to LP from Sonisphere uk '09 would... man... words can't describe how I'd feel to hear that that show would be released

exactly. a foreign song has to connect with you on a purely non-verbal way because it simply won't correlate. not that I think this is always limiting, I think it just makes your appreciation totally fresh and unique to you, which is a wonderful way to listen to something. there is no sense in translating songs from one language to another because each and every word will always lose the meaning that would be really obvious to the listener of the original. "breaking the habit" could end up as... i dunno... "stopping the repetition" which is verbally correct, but totally loses all of the subtle idiomatic meaning of the words. you could never get a final/full translation because of all the different layers to language - Rammstein's "Du Hast" for example, has the "have"/"hate" debate over the use of the word "hast", which is simply lost in English because we don't have that little twist in our pronunciation.

thanks Geki, I agree on the absolute TON of death metaphors in MTM. and yeah, I gues Blackbirds could be a part of that. I haven't listened to that track in literally years... I've never considered the fact that having English as a 2nd language would make your enjoyment of music a much more pure experience. I'm an Arts person so I tend to be very attentive to analysis of things like images and literature. I attach a lot of my opinions upon music to the words, but I've never thought how much it could make me like a song that was musically quite poor I guess my only equivalent (from my extremely limited knowledge of German language music) would be that I bet you would have a totally different way of listing to Rammstein than i do. I know very little of the language, and now that I think about it, I do tend to appreciate the tone and delivery of Lindemann's voice, it's almost another percussion instrument to me, like a tuned drum. and the backing track does have to hold my attention for me to consider it a "good" song. yet on the opposite side, I am a really big fan of 30STM, but having started to play some songs of theirs along to a CD, I do notice the relatively simple formula thay have in their songs - their sound is pretty vast, but its all based upon about 5 chords just played in different orders and a few alterations. I'd been so taken by the words and voice, that it had totally escaped me until I properly sat down and worked it out practically. I'm glad you posted AndOne because I find this kind of thing really interesting. If my degree course wasn't just about purely visual Arts, I would have done something about music's impact on society - this is exactly the sort of thing I love.

I think I have a copy of this magazine, I can scan the article it when I'm next home if no-one finds a link for it I would add Carousel and Across The Line to songs that seem to have a direct meaning, and Chester has certainly attached that meaning to Breaking The Habit, although again, that one could be about any sort of habit - hell, mike may have had a really tough time trying to stop himself cracking his knuckles or biting his fingernails... I do think that the band has ended up writing quite a few songs about drugs, but it's correct to assume that we should never assume anything! they're designed to weave with one's own life, and I think there are tons of songs that you could make fit that genre if you wanted to - Part of Me ("this part of me won't go away"...) Papercut (paranoia) Crawling ("something inside me", lack of control) Runaway (despair, guilt) By Myself (paranoia) In The End (relapse) A Place For My Head ("you try to take the best of me" could be personification) Don't Stay ("just give me myself back") Somewhere I Belong ("I want to heal") Easier To Run (guilt and relapse - "so much simpler than change") Figure.09 ("hearing your name the memories come back again" personifying?) From The Inside ("throw it all away, 'cause i swear, for the last time, I won't trust myself with you" personifying?) Nobody's Listening (cries for help?) Numb (physical side-effects, "I may end up failing too" guilt?) Wake (the title theme of destruction and one's personal 'wake' is interesting - Chester's problems in '05/'06 etc. this song sounds like a rebirth) Given Up (suicidal thought) Leave Out All The Rest (guilt) Bleed It Out ("throw it away" appears again, who is the "you" chester is saying must face the problems? himself?) What I've Done (easy - tons of destruction ideas in there) No More Sorrow ("you"/"yours" personifying? "liars and thieves abuse power with greed" - unsavoury types) Blackout (the "beautiful hallucination" line from the rough scat intrigues me, but in the final track the "you"s could again be personifying) Iridescent (getting clean?) Lost In The Echo ("so conditioned I could never let go" - 'conditioning' is a really interesting term to use here, psycho-pharmacology stuff) In My Remains ("wash away the worst of me" cleaning up, addressing issues?) I'll Be Gone ("climbing through tomorrow" - progression) Castle of Glass (tons of healing metaphors, "poison" idea) Powerless (obvious) I am by no means suggesting that every single one of these songs is about drugs, but they can be related to that issue. I love all the different multiple layers and subtexts in the band's lyrics, and it's something that fascinates me as an ability...

i never saw any of these so this is simply me talking from a detached viewpoint. I always thought that playing the W&K intro speech on the Requiem show intro was cool, but it sounded really silly to then stop that and go into Papercut. it's one of those moments on the album that you know is the intro to a particular track, so why use that little snippet out of context? the band wouldn't, for example, play the intro to Faint and then suddenly go "nope!" and whack out Breaking the Habit I agree it keeps the crowd on its toes, and it's a tactic that can be brutally hilarious with the right songs - but LP didn't play it as some sort of band/fan joke, so it's just a bit strange in my opinion - what do you guys think?

couldn't you have put this discussion in one of the "quick questions" threads?