Justin

I wonder if this song was maybe planned to be properly finished and included on either an LPU or maybe a special edition of OML, and then plans for the song (and any releases) were shelved after 7/20. That might explain why the song was in a position to be leaked like this in the first place. I could be completely wrong, but I would imagine that most unreleased music like this doesn't leak because it's typically available to so few people that the source of the leak could be easily identified.

Definitely sounds like an LPU demo, which I guess essentially it could have been. It's pretty cool.

Sounds like it could be a sound similar to the ones Joe uses on the intro of Somewhere I Belong, or maybe the bridge of With You.

It depends though, I think. I'm pretty sure the raw unmastered/unmixed tracks, like the actual pro-tools sessions, have WAY more tracks than what we got in the recent leaks.

Pretty sure most of us have seen/heard him. He is indeed a great singer. I don't think he should join LP though. "We lost Chester, so we got someone who looks and sounds just like him!" I know some people would find that cool probably. I think it wouldn't be. No disrespect to him or his talent though.

Linkin Park have always held the viewpoint that they don't need to be what anyone expects. Finding a new vocalist so that they can sing Chester's parts live would run directly counter to that philosophy. Chester is gone. If LP goes on with just Mike and drops some of their heavier songs, I don't see the problem there. I know the argument is that casual fans want to hear songs that Mike can't handle, and therefore LP might not be able to fill arenas like they were before if those songs are gone. To that, I say again that Chester is gone. It already will never be the same as it was before. That is just the reality of the situation. I would rather them drop some songs and reinvent themselves (again) if the alternative is having a new vocalist sing Chester's parts so that the typical LP set doesn't have to change too much. EDIT: Guys, go watch the ending of Meeting of A Thousand Suns. Listen to Mike asking the band "What's the smartest way to go about the next step?", listen to Chester's answer, and then apply that answer to this entire thread. The end. He was talking about ATS obviously, but it can apply to this dilemma as well.

I agree that with the PT tour over, the question of the future of LP will eventually become something that the band will need to discuss. The entire PT album cycle took place during a period where the band (including Mike) were all mourning in their own ways and dealing with their grief in the best ways they knew how. With the tour now over, and almost two years since 7/20, I do think that the situation may be less painful for them to broach among themselves and, whatever they ultimately decide, I fully support them. With all that being said, I personally would love for the band to continue as a 5-piece with Mike singing all of the songs that he can and letting the crowd take certain parts that he maybe can't. I mean we know that he can handle Papercut because he did at the Hollywood Bowl. Certain songs like Faint or OSC could be done partly by Mike and partly by the crowd. Certain songs may need to be retired but that's okay.

I haven't heard the tracks yet to know exactly where you mean, but I assume you mean just before the second verse. The answer is because it adds a layer, serving as another step in the slow/steady build of the song.

Before 7/20. It is even more odd considering that he hasn't even so much as logged in to LPL since that date.

He performed it more than once. He performed it a few times actually, it just wasn't all the time.

A lot of things, in hindsight, seem like they were red flags for what would happen on 7/20. Also to be honest I'm sure the backlash against OML was even stronger considering that Mike, in 2014 said: “There’s so much stuff that sounds like HAIM or CHVRCHES or Vampire Weekend that I’m full. The thing I’m hungry for is not that. I turn on the rock station in L.A. and it sounds like Disney commercial music.” And then, 3 years later, Heavy was released. He probably shouldn't have said that, but again hindsight is 20/20 and I get that, at the time, he was trying to promote THP.

Some of the comments on that video are ridiculous. If you think Chester and the rest of LP were completely caught off guard by a negative reaction to Heavy at Hellfest, you're wrong. If I remember right, Chester actually referenced this and said he blew a kiss to the person that threw it just to mess with them even more. Close minded individuals, such as a person who would throw something at an artist because he doesn't like a song, were never people that LP cared about or took their "criticisms" to heart. As far as ATS goes, I think Astat hit the nail on the head. The backlash against ATS was strong for sure, but things were kept civil and mainly focused on the music. I think the band welcomed that. It sparked DISCUSSION about musical evolution and bands choosing to go in different directions. There were people who didn't like it, but very few people actually went out of their way to get personal like they did when OML came out. OML had people not only attacking the music, but attacking the band as people. Questioning their integrity as artists and then acting like Chester's angry reaction to that bullshit was unjustified. The thing that always gets to me now is that I've seen some of the most vocal haters of OML, the people who said the most inappropriate things, become some of the most vocally saddened people after Chester passed away. Guilty much?

One More Light (song) multitracks are out there.

He was not referring to any LP music, and the "words" were not referring to anything Chester wrote or sung, according to Mike himself. The song is apparently about another artist's music that he didn't fully understand until he lost Chester. He did not say exactly what band/artist or what song.

They're remakes. Good remakes, but remakes. The official instrumentals for ATS do exist, but they are only in the hands of private traders at the moment. Same for MTM and most of Reanimation.

Yeah, I'm not saying I would rather this stuff not surface at all. I've bought things from traders in the past, LP related as well as non-LP related. It is different then selling rare physical stuff though. If someone bought...let's say the shopping cart version of the Xero tape. That would sell for a lot of money today, but it's not undeserved profit, because they bought it. That's like selling rare baseball cards or something. It's not illegal. Selling multitracks or instrumentals can get the seller in real legal trouble with record labels if they are exposed. That's another reason the prices are so high when these things are sold. ALLLLL that said, though, I'll repeat that it's better than this stuff not surfacing at all.

If a trader agrees to sell something rather than trade it for something equally rare, they usually name their price as something high like that so that you think twice before leaking it to the general public once you buy it. That applies to this LP stuff as well as most rare things (instrumentals/multitracks) from other artists that aren't circulated. So yes, they potentially make a lot of money by selling creations that aren't theirs to sell lol.

Honestly with the rate that things have been leaking/surfacing lately, I would be surprised if they weren't out there by the end of this year. Same goes for ATS, Reanimation, and Post Traumatic instrumentals, which I know for a fact are being out there being traded but haven't leaked yet. Same with the mastered stems for the rest of OML.

That had to be therapeutic for Chester to let all of that out in a song.

That’s correct. I didn’t know that at the time that I made that post.

GIven Up acapella is out there. Official and uncensored. So is Faint. The entire song acapella, not made from the LPConcerts rips.

This is probably more of an Astat question, but I'm fairly certain at least that Lockjaw did not exist prior to Mike and Rob creating it specifically to demo the new Pro Tools. If it did exist, no info about it prior to that has ever surfaced. As far as MMM...Cookies, I was always under the impression that they indeed came from the 2005-2007 sessions during the recording of MTM.

You guys are so amazing. Thank you so much for this and for all that you do!

I agree. Some of the songs on THP felt a little forced. To me, THP is the only LP album that felt like a style swerve just for the sake of having a style swerve. Even the transition from MTM to ATS felt more organic than what THP was. OML to me feels more like the next step after LT honestly. THP in hindsight sounds like a detour more than an evolution. That's not to say THP doesn't have some great songs on it. It definitely does. I just like OML more as a complete record.

What is your point here though lol. Like are you saying what I think?