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I think the recordings don't do Given up justice to be honest. It's a song that instantly get the pit hyped up and moving. One of the highlights from the show I attended.

I like how Mike emphasized how much of a blast they're having on stage right now, and how the fans picked up on that online. Yep, we've definitely noticed!

Damn full respect to @RogueSoul for the work on the pre-show posts, never fail to deliver. Hoping they keep a rotation spot for THP in the next run of shows. Seems like a good way to include this album. Even though to be honest, I'd be happy if it's always KTTK that gets played. OEO is certainly getting a premiere today. @GreyFox-AFCA have a great first LP show!! And the others who are going too

Anyway ! Performance was cool. It still amazes me how close Emily's vocals are to the studio version. She really nails it.

It's a very pop orientated show in general, so I'd put a penny on OEO. But TEM could definitely have a shot due to its sheer popularity. Let's see!

We're getting close!

Joe enthusiasm during the September live shows has been at at 180° compared to his presence in the later years prior to 2017. It's so good to see him in a such a happy mood, and the fact that he's back at it in studio too, it's just awesome. Man, I can't wait for this record to drop.

Since when has LP been promoting an album with songs that are mostly seen as "good" or "great"? ATS, right? Good feelings about "From Zero", good feelings.

There'll be new songs for sure next year. Not sure about a full length in the near future, but I wouldn't exclude it either. The vibe I've gotten from the recent podcast is that they have A LOT of material almost ready, and only cherry-picked a small initial selection off it as a first taste.

Ooh nice, congrats on securing a spot!

Actually hoping this comparison is accurate. Seriously. Not always been a fan of Mike solo and produced stuff, but I loved this track a whole lot.

I've thought about that a few times. In a way, I'm mildly confident the state of the market has always been in the back of the heads of (some) band members. I re-watched part of the ATS making-of recently, and in there you can see in spots how the band was uncertain and stressed about going full "unconventional" with the song structures and the singles. It's not at all a criticism about the artistic value of the band. I just think, maybe even unconsciously, this element has always been there one way or another. The amplitude of the its impact, that's something we can never know for sure though. That said, when most of the songs you have written in your career are 2:30 to 3:30, you probably also just mostly enjoy writing sweet brief tracks

Love that kind of feedback More positivity, it's nice!

I agree that TEM is a monster of a song. Couldn't have hoped for a better way to come back. HITC is good too, like B+, but TEM is like A+/ God-Tier.

Come on guys, if it is not your favorite, look at the bright side. It is like the 3rd shortest song on the album - or I guess 2nd shortest if you don't count the studio chatter. Wouldn't it be ideal if your least favorite track was also one that's quickly over with ?

Eventually, one occasion where we could hear from Rob again would be if, in the distant future, some media outlets tracks him back and get an interview from him. And being the introvert, off-the-gird, person that he is, the odds are very high he'd decline any such thing. Not counting on any further details about his departure, at least not any time soon. i wouldn't hold my breath on it.

It's likely all the octaves parts were just written by Mike. That's often been the case, and it's even more likely this time around when Brad only came in later in the process. At that point, the band had already been working on a bunch of stuff for a while. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Brad barely contributed any guitar on the record. I can see his input being even more on the production and arrangement side of things now.

For all those who are "meh" -> maybe the song will be a growner? I mean, wishful thinking here, really hoping for a strong album 😅

This post probably has me the most hyped so far. Tackles off aspects I have been a bit worried about (melody choice, production choice, how it fits with the 2 other songs). What you wrote about the melody still sounding like a Shinoda one (VS a 2016-2018 JG flavored one), the song having an atmospheric quality, and connecting well with the other songs, is basically all I was hoping to read. Thanks for sharing!

If that's the case, I really hope it is more NCSM-level melody than Battle Symphony-level melody ^^' Taking production out of the equation and on a pure melodic level, the first gives me the chills, while the second never did much for me.

I'll wait this one out for the sake of the album experience, but I still really enjoy reading the reactions. Song has been compared to so many different songs already in the chatbox, it's interesting to see how different people hear different things. But what I can make up is that it'll be a more mellow tune, with a MTM twist to it instrumentally, and a very catchy chorus. That's cool. Kind of though they'd go for a more accessible tune on this one, before going berzerk on Casualty.

Probably you only receive it if you're located in the UK.

Things are about to get busy, between the reviews from the listening party, the live shows, the new single, etc. Fun times ahead.

Next one is in Mexico !

Yup I'm thinking the same. Definitely makes more sense now than as a first, or even 2nd single. First a gentle introduction, and then a full-on track.