samuelguk718 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 mike's voice was autotuned O.o Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GigaScythe Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 There are so many fans of this band that make no room for criticism and it really begins to feel like a preschool playground. Yeah, this. Every time I think of making a criticism of something LP's done on here it's a bit like I hold back because of the anger it'll inevitably provoke. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
praya Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 lol it seems to me, that we're starting to get more people getting mad that people are getting upset over the change than people getting upset over the change. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rav0k Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 mike's voice was autotuned O.o wut? Yeah, this. Every time I think of making a criticism of something LP's done on here it's a bit like I hold back because of the anger it'll inevitably provoke. Maybe Saw 3D will help people relieve their frustration. Then again, it may make it worse for people seeing Chester get mutilated. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONDREUS240 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 mike's voice was autotuned O.o No it wasn't. There were just two voices at once, one higher and one lower. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
praya Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 just about every recording artist(singing wise) in the industry uses autotune or some form of it, and im pretty sure linkin park does too. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONDREUS240 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 just about every recording artist(singing wise) in the industry uses autotune or some form of it, and im pretty sure linkin park does too. It may be soft autouned but not hard autotuned. I think thats what he was referring to. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinigamiPWN Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 (edited) Then again, it may make it worse for people seeing Chester get mutilated. It will, because people around here don't seem to realize it's just a movie. Personally, it won't bother me one bit. Doesn't make me a bad person or anything. v.v Edited September 4, 2010 by ShinigamiPWN Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teagan Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 It will, because people around here don't seem to realize it's just a movie. Personally, it won't bother me one bit. Doesn't make me a bad person or anything. v.v there are people feeling offended by Chester getting tortured in a MOVIE? seriously? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinigamiPWN Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 there are people feeling offended by Chester getting tortured in a MOVIE? seriously? Yes. And if I remember correctly, some even said they wouldn't go see it because of that. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teagan Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Yes. And if I remember correctly, some even said they wouldn't go see it because of that. wow. thats ridiculous. I'm not going to see it because I can't stand the movies, but.. what a stupid reason Oo Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiderSSPU Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 That just means that a good portion of the population will be dancing to what appears to be anti-government music. lol Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rav0k Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 (edited) Yes. And if I remember correctly, some even said they wouldn't go see it because of that. That -really- does not surprise me. I was saying it for giggles but I guess my point was proven. Edited September 4, 2010 by rav0k Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinigamiPWN Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 That -really- does not surprise me. I was saying it for giggles but I guess my point was proven. It sure was. Ha. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauscho Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I have to forget my outside problems when reporting to work every day. I have to satisfy my customers regardless of who I was 10 years ago compared to now. Oh, I forgot. Linkin Park is not human. They are expected to do what they want without getting criticism from their paying fans. All of that is completely besides the point. Art is an expression of emotions. You seem to have LP branded as a product or commodity where emotion isn't necessary in order to provide customer satisfaction. And as it's an expression of emotions, you try telling me you are exactly the same person now as you were 10 years ago. In that kind of time span, no person can NOT change. Criticism is one thing. I personally don't care for this Waiting For The End clip. But to actually ask them to ignore 10 years of personal growth just because I like what they did 10 years ago better, is insulting to them as artists, as people who are constantly trying to express themselves now. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashwhisker Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 (edited) All of that is completely besides the point. That should be "beside the point", not "besides the point". By saying "beside the point", one means that something is literally on the side of the point; in other words it is not related. However, "besides" means "moreover", "furthermore", or "also". Rather than an expression of physical direction, as in "beside", it is a transitional preposition used in speech to introduce a new topic. Look guys, I know how to bitch too! Edited September 4, 2010 by Ash Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rav0k Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 (edited) You seem to have LP branded as a product or commodity where emotion isn't necessary in order to provide customer satisfaction. I have branded Linkin Park as a band that became famous via their fanbase, therefore they should be able to take some criticism from that said fanbase. I never claimed emotion was not necessary. Though, on that note, I would say "emotion" was kicked out of the window when they put finesse into their music to sell records 10 years ago. All of that gets eradicated with pitch correction, tempo alignment and all the other mastering that they accomplished. And as it's an expression of emotions, you try telling me you are exactly the same person now as you were 10 years ago. In that kind of time span, no person can NOT change. I'm not the same person I was, at all. However, if I was in a band with as much success as Linkin Park, I would at least consider what my fans would want out of love and respect for them. I don't recall anyone (on these forums) claiming that it was mandatory that the band should go back to their original sound or they should quit. All I have seen is "I wish they would go back to the Hybrid Theory sound", which is a suggestion that the band may take into consideration. You are acting as if they evolved into this Super-Band that fends for themselves. I'm pretty sure you can guarantee that they take all forms of criticism to help define what they want to do as artists. Like you said, art is an expression but there comes a point where you are making it for the sake of loving what you do...or you are making it to share with others and get feedback in the process. When they decided to sign to a record label, it's pretty obvious which choice was taken. Edited September 4, 2010 by rav0k Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jani Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 "This isn't LP i want HT back" is getting really annoying after hearing it for several years. LP has already said that they won't make that music again so please stop Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rav0k Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 (edited) LP has already said that they won't make that music again so please stop SS or it didn't happen. Edited September 5, 2010 by rav0k Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GigaScythe Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 "This isn't LP i want HT back" is getting really annoying after hearing it for several years. LP has already said that they won't make that music again so please stop Source on that? I think it's fair to say those who want more of the HT/M sound back can express their opinion as such. Personally, I'm anxious about this album; from what I've heard so far, it's going to either be a hit or a miss for me. I'm starting to worry it's going to be the latter. What got me into LP was the Meteora sound. As for MTM, I liked it because I listened to that kind of music too already, I didn't just like it because I'm a mindless drone that likes whatever LP does. I may still enjoy ATS, but there's always going to be a part of me that wishes they would make more music in the style of Meteora. That's what got me into them. I think they're taking a huge gamble with this record - as can already be seen by comments on their Facebook updates which seem to be interspersed with opinions from disappointed fans. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaiNt Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 (edited) with new/different music. brings in new/different fans. thats just the reality of the situation. And LP knows this. And i don't think they mind it. Its not like they are alienating their fans... because simply put.. they aren't alienating themselves by creating music that they frankly don't give a sh!t about. Go listen to Puddle of Mud or Korn and tell me how much they have evolved and how different their fan base has become over the years. Edited September 5, 2010 by FaiNt Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jani Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Source on that? I think it's fair to say those who want more of the HT/M sound back can express their opinion as such. Personally, I'm anxious about this album; from what I've heard so far, it's going to either be a hit or a miss for me. I'm starting to worry it's going to be the latter. What got me into LP was the Meteora sound. As for MTM, I liked it because I listened to that kind of music too already, I didn't just like it because I'm a mindless drone that likes whatever LP does. I may still enjoy ATS, but there's always going to be a part of me that wishes they would make more music in the style of Meteora. That's what got me into them. I think they're taking a huge gamble with this record - as can already be seen by comments on their Facebook updates which seem to be interspersed with opinions from disappointed fans. Ofcourse people can express their opinion that's not what i said. I meant the constant bitching is getting annoying for those who understand why they're not doing the same type of music for the rest of their career. I'm not claiming absolute certainty that they will NEVER make HT sound again but i think it's very unlikely because they got pissed off when people told them that they're a Nu-Metal band and Chester said at the Catalyst premiere interview that usually bands think that "wow this is working let's stick to this" but LP are more like "okay this is working, let's do something else..". Sorry if my english isn't perfect but i think you can understand Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotsa_spaghetti Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Yet ANOTHER LP song with the word Lie in it!!! Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftshoe18 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Yet ANOTHER LP song with the word Lie in it!!! Thought the same thing the first time I heard it. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPjahova808 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 I'm pretty sure they've said in quite a few interviews they aren't going to the Hybrid Theory/Meteora sound again? I'm not gonna look for a source, but its been said Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/5376-waiting-for-the-end-snippet/page/6/#findComment-97312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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