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Different mastering/version of the same songs (without demos/remixes), who can help with info about all the differences?

Alternate Versions:

One Step Closer:

  • 2:35 Album Version
  • 2:36 Promo Version (a.k.a Rock Mix) [Without scratches in the bridge]
  • 2:51 ECW Extreme Music Volume 2: Anarchy Rocks [beefed-Up drum track, louder bass, and more emphasized samples. it lacks the bridge vocal samples in the intro. In the ending, you can hear "interlude" that leads into the next track.]

High Voltage:

  • 3:30 Hybrid Theory EP/LP Underground 1.0
  • 3:47 Hybrid Theory Bonus Track [Re-recorded version, different instrumental]

Somewhere I Belong:

  • 3:34 Album Version [Minor differences in the intro]
  • 3:34 Radio Edit

Faint:

  • 2:42 Album Version [Minor differences in the intro]
  • 2:42 Radio Edit

Breaking The Habit:

  • 3:15 Album Version
  • 3:16 Street Team Sampler CD [Added sample to the very beginning of the intro]

Leave Out All The Rest:

  • 3:29 Album Version [Additional outro]
  • 3:19 Radio Edit

Shadow Of The Day:

  • 4:54 Album Version [Additional outro]
  • 4:16 Radio Edit
  • 4:49 Minutes To Midnight (Mastered for iTunes Collection Edition) [Additional strings]
  • 4:17 Rock Band 3 (Different synth)

What I've Done (Official Remix):

  • 3:47 Distorted Remix
  • 3:40 M. Shinoda Remix [shorter bridge and the guitar cuts out at the end of the quiet section that leads into the last chorus]

No Roads Left

  • 3:48 Minutes To Midnight (iTunes Edition)
  • 3:48 Minutes To Midnight (Mastered for iTunes Deluxe Edition) [Different drums]

The Catalyst:

  • 5:40 Album Version [Long intro, additional outro]
  • 4:40 Radio Edit
  • 5:32 Medal Of Honor Soundtrack [Different intro]
  • 7:29 Promo Edit [Radio Edit + Chester and Mike talking about the song (before and after)]

Waiting For The End:

  • 3:51 Album Version
  • 3:17 Promo Edit (a.k.a. Non Rap Version) [Without mike's first verse]

Burning In The Skies:

  • 4:13 Album Version [Long intro]
  • 4:01 Promo Edit

Iridescent:

  • 4:56 Album Version
  • 3:59 Radio Edit (a.k.a. Iridescent - From Transformers Dark Of The Moon) [Different mixing]

Blackout:

  • 4:40 Album Version
  • 4:38 FIFA 11 Soundtrack (a.k.a. Black Out) [Different mixing, another vocal take, lyrics changes]

A Light That Never Comes:

  • 3:49 Album Version
  • 4:56 Steve Aoki SoundCloud account [Extended intro, extended outro]

A Light That Never Comes (Coone Remix):

  • 5:45 EP Version
  • 4:23 Coone SoundCloud account [shorter version]

Guilty All The Same:

  • 5:55 Album Version, feat. Rakim
  • 3:43 Radio Edit [shorter intro, without Rakim's verse]
  • 5:55 Music video Version, feat. Rakim [Different mix]

Until It's Gone:

  • 3:53 Album Version
  • 3:40 Radio Edit [Without the extra outro]

Final Masquerade:

  • 3:37 Album Version
  • 3:40 Radio Edit [Without A Line In The Sand transition and a little more silence at the end.]

It's Goin' Down: (for the full eight versions article by Astat click Here.)

  • 4:08 Album Version
  • 3:37 Radio Edit #1 [it lacks the few seconds of guitar feedback at the beginning of the song and fades in abruptly on the first repetition of the guitar riff with the "watch them flee" sample.]
  • 3:45 Radio Edit #2 [essentially the same thing as the first radio edit, except it does have the guitar feedback at the beginning.]
  • 3:33 Promo Version [during the breakdown (approximately 2:36) there is a voiceover saying "Yo, it's request only, X-Ecutioners Built From Scratch, album in stores soon."]

Across The Line:

  • 3:11 Minutes To Midnight (Mastered For iTunes Deluxe Edition) [No bass in the first verse]
  • 3:10 LPU 9
  • 3:46 LPU 9 Promo [Additional intro]

 

 

Music Video Versions:

Clean Versions:

  • Dirt Off Your Shoulder-Lying From You
  • Big Pimpin'-Papercut
  • Jigga What-Faint
  • Numb-Encore
  • Points Of Authority-99 Problems-One Step Closer
  • Given Up
  • Bleed It Out
  • Hands Held High
  • Given Up (Road to Revolution: Live At Milton Keynes Version)
  • Hands Held High (Road to Revolution: Live At Milton Keynes Version)
  • Numb/Encore (Road to Revolution: Live At Milton Keynes Version)
  • Jigga What/Faint (Road to Revolution: Live At Milton Keynes Version)
  • We Made It
  • When They Come For Me
  • Blackout
  • Keys To The Kingdom
  • All For Nothing

Something is missing?

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https://soundcloud.com/linkinjoze/album-vs-demo-blackout

 

The FIFA version has another vocal take, and even some little change in the lyrics.

 

ALBUM: Far below we've been waiting to collect what you've let go

 

FIFA : Far below we've been waiting to collect the things you know

Edited by LINKINJOZE
lpliveusername

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I always saw "High Voltage" from HT EP as demo. The 2000 version is completly different from the this version.

 

1Stp Klosr

5:46 Reanimation

3:57 Radio Edit

 

Across The Line

3:10 LPU 9

3:46 LPU 9 Promo [Additional intro]

3:11 2013 Version [No bass in the first verse]

 

Faint (Demo 2002)

3:11 LPU 9

3:27 LPU 9 Promo [Long intro]

 

One Step Closer

2:35 Hybrid Theory

2:36 Rock Mix [Without scratches in the brige]

2:51 ECW Extreme Music Volume 2: Anarchy Rocks

 

One Step Closer (Humble Brothers Remix)

06:13 Extended

03:12 FM Radio

 

Sad

1:08 LPU 9

1:20 LPU 9 Promo [Long intro]

Skipees

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I always saw "High Voltage" from HT EP as demo. The 2000 version is completly different from the this version.

 

1Stp Klosr

5:46 Reanimation

3:57 Radio Edit

no demos or remixes, they are already in their list. 1stp Klosr it's from the promo?

 

about High Voltage i see your point, but since it never titled as another version - it's just (very) alternate version.

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lpliveusername

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Castle Of Glass

3:25 Living Things

4:17 Video

 

It's Goin' Down

4:08 Built From Scratch

3:32 Radio Edit

3:53 Video

 

Robot Boy

4:29 A Thousand Suns

4:31 LPU 11 [Test Mix, Optional Vocal Take]

 

no demos or remixes, they are already in their list. 1stp Klosr it's from the promo?

 

about High Voltage i see your point, but since it never titled as another version - it's just (very) alternate version.

1stp Klosr is from Reanimation. I don't know where the radio version came from.

 

I agree with what Astat said many times in various topics here on LPLive, some songs on the LPU CDs shouldn't be called "demos".

For those of you who have been keeping track, “Across The Line” is a brand new, unreleased song. It was recorded during the “Minutes To Midnight” sessions, and was originally entitled “Japan.” We know a lot of the fans on the LPU boards have wanted to hear this song, in its entirety, for a long time. We’re putting it on the LPU9 CD for you!

http://mikeshinoda.com/2009/11/11/lpu9-cd-track-listing/

Fans first heard the new song, “Across The Line,” during online video episodes (“LPTV”). Originally entitled “Japan,” fans sought out the song for years, but the band had never released it. In response to fan feedback, the band decided to finish the song and make it available as a highlight of LPU9.

http://mikeshinoda.com/2009/12/01/lp-under...-press-release/

 

"One Step Closer (Rock Mix)" is not a remix, neither the ECW version. Just listen to them. People who don't pay attetion even say they sound the same as the album version.

Geki

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Wait... So ATL wasn't really from MTM either? It was re-written and released in 2009? Makes me wonder how many actual ''MTM b-sides/demos'' we actually have. I think No Roads Left and What We Don't Know may be the only MTM demos that were actually from 2006/2007 and not re-worked on.

Skipees

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Castle Of Glass

3:25 Living Things

4:17 Video

 

It's Goin' Down

4:08 Built From Scratch

3:32 Radio Edit

3:53 Video

for Video Mixes i already did separate Thread. i'll add IGD with the Radio Edit.

 

Robot Boy

4:29 A Thousand Suns

4:31 LPU 11 [Test Mix, Optional Vocal Take]

a lot of demos (especially those are not from LPU CD) very similiar to the final version. if i'll consider them as alternate versions and add them here we gonna need to empty the Demo List Thread.

 

1stp Klosr is from Reanimation. I don't know where the radio version came from.

you have it?

Edit: i've found 3:54 version when Chester start to sing at 00:04, but it looks like somebody just cut it.

 

I agree with what Astat said many times in various topics here on LPLive, some songs on the LPU CDs shouldn't be called "demos".

ITE & Esaul from LPU11 and POA and Forgotten from LPU12 are Demos for you? they "Full" same as "Across The Line".

 

if Mike said Mike know.

 

"One Step Closer (Rock Mix)" is not a remix, neither the ECW version. Just listen to them. People who don't pay attetion even say they sound the same as the album version.

about the Rock Mix i'm totally taking my words back, but if ECW Version goes in we need to includes ALL the mixtapes versions ever. cause it's the same case. Edited by Skipees
lpliveusername

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Blackout

4:40 Album Version

4:38 FIFA 11 Soundtrack (a.k.a. Black Out) [Different Mixing, Another Vocal Take, Little Lyrics Changes]

Robot Boy

4:29 A Thousand Suns

4:31 LPU 11 [Test Mix, Optional Vocal Take]

What's the difference?

Both have alternative vocal takes and a different mix. None of them was released with the word "demo".

 

about the Rock Mix i'm totally taking my words back, but if ECW Version goes in we need to includes ALL the mixtapes versions ever. cause it's the same case.

The ECW version is from a soundtrack/compilation album similar to the WWE series. "One Step Closer" was the theme song of a wrestler called Nova.
Skipees

Skipees

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What's the difference?

Both have alternative vocal takes and a different mix. None of them was released with the word "demo".

and POA from hybridtheory.com for example, titled as a demo? and the difference is here it released to a soundtrack and here for Demos CD.

 

The ECW version is from a soundtrack/compilation album similar to the WWE series. "One Step Closer" was the theme song of a wrestler called Nova.

i'm still not sure about that, but meanwhile i'll add it. Edited by Skipees
Astat

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The ECW Anarchy Rocks mix of One Step Closer is totally different from the album version - It's actually very similar to the mix used in Plaster, with the beefed-up drum track, louder bass, and more emphasized samples, but it lacks the bridge vocal samples in the intro. The difference in the track length just comes from the "interlude" that leads into the next track being tacked onto the end of it (there are short clips of each of the featured wrestlers talking before "their song" on the CD).

ThePretender

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Wait... So ATL wasn't really from MTM either? It was re-written and released in 2009? Makes me wonder how many actual ''MTM b-sides/demos'' we actually have. I think No Roads Left and What We Don't Know may be the only MTM demos that were actually from 2006/2007 and not re-worked on.

It was. You can hear Japan being recorded in the making of Minutes to Midnight.

 

 

Promo

1. The Catalyst (album version) 05:42

2. The Catalyst (radio version) 04:42

3. The Catalyst (radio version with intro/outro interview) 06:56

Geki

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It was. You can hear Japan being recorded in the making of Minutes to Midnight.

 

 

Promo

1. The Catalyst (album version) 05:42

2. The Catalyst (radio version) 04:42

3. The Catalyst (radio version with intro/outro interview) 06:56

I know it was originally a demo for MTM, but 'Japan' sounds very different from ATL. You can still tell it is the same song, just different. I mean it's in the same nature as Blackbirds, Debris, Pretend To Be, etc, which were originally MTM songs but re-worked on in later years. I guess I'm just really picky.. For example, if LP were to take an old Meteora demo right now and re-work it and release it, it would lose it's magic for me, I would rather hear demos from the actual time frame of the album. But anyways, I'll stop talking about this here. Not the right thread.

Astat

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Why the hell do people keep debating this every few weeks? :lol: Across the Line was recorded during the Minutes to Midnight sessions. The *ONLY* demos we've gotten that were "completed" after the album they were originally intended for were Pretend to Be and Not Alone. Debris was obviously in play at some point during the A Thousand Suns sessions based on that short clip of it on LPTV, but we don't have any evidence that they actually did additional work on it at that point, and you'd think if they did, it wouldn't have been labeled as a Minutes to Midnight demo on the LPU CD (unlike Pretend to Be, which was labeled appropriately as a 2008 demo rather than a 2006/2007 one). LP revisits a lot of their old demos during the early phase of working on a new album, but that doesn't mean they actually do anything with them.

[AndOne]

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Why the hell do people keep debating this every few weeks? :lol: Across the Line was recorded during the Minutes to Midnight sessions. The *ONLY* demos we've gotten that were "completed" after the album they were originally intended for were Pretend to Be and Not Alone. Debris was obviously in play at some point during the A Thousand Suns sessions based on that short clip of it on LPTV, but we don't have any evidence that they actually did additional work on it at that point, and you'd think if they did, it wouldn't have been labeled as a Minutes to Midnight demo on the LPU CD (unlike Pretend to Be, which was labeled appropriately as a 2008 demo rather than a 2006/2007 one). LP revisits a lot of their old demos during the early phase of working on a new album, but that doesn't mean they actually do anything with them.

It's funny when you look at the sources linked above. Only the press release mentions how the track was finished "later" upon fan responses.

Mike never mentions this in his post, he says it's a MTM sessions song. We can hear the song in the Making of, just with gibberish lyrics.

 

This proves again that press releases are full of shit. Just like MTV and other sources cite for years, that LP played over 300 shows in 2001 (or within in a year), which is complete bullshit too.

hahninator

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Why the hell do people keep debating this every few weeks? :lol: Across the Line was recorded during the Minutes to Midnight sessions. The *ONLY* demos we've gotten that were "completed" after the album they were originally intended for were Pretend to Be and Not Alone. Debris was obviously in play at some point during the A Thousand Suns sessions based on that short clip of it on LPTV, but we don't have any evidence that they actually did additional work on it at that point, and you'd think if they did, it wouldn't have been labeled as a Minutes to Midnight demo on the LPU CD (unlike Pretend to Be, which was labeled appropriately as a 2008 demo rather than a 2006/2007 one). LP revisits a lot of their old demos during the early phase of working on a new album, but that doesn't mean they actually do anything with them.

Yes that is a true fact. However, when Mike says they "finished" Across The Line, it most likely means the edit they did to it on the CD. We all know about the longer version so I take that to mean they did the edit and then put it on the CD. The fact about that song is that Pictureboard was on the LPU9 CD before at the last minute Shinoda replaced it with ATL. So he probably did the edit and said fuck it, let's use ATL. I don't know if the "sample" thing was in play at that time with Pictureboard or not (like maybe they are using that as just an excuse now perhaps, or maybe not). The reason I heard was that Mike thought it wasn't "good enough" (he mainly picks the LPU CDs himself, at least 9, X, 11 and 12) and wanted a better song on there.

 

ATL would be labeled as something different (not an MTM unreleased demo) if it had actual work done to it later on besides an edit.

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