Tyleronlplive Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 First Impressions: The Catalyst: Almost identical to the album version other than the bridge lyrics but it's fine, but I don't think one line of lyrics changing doesn't constitute a reason to release this as a demo. The vocal take was different too and you can tell, but since it seems like it was before any autotune or touchups were done, it's nice to hear Chester's (probably) raw performance at the parts that don't have any effects. Can't Hurt Me: I love it. With the pop song chords at first, I thought this was going to be one of the pre-Hunting Party pop songs that Mike had written, but it just got so good. I like the rising guitar in it, just a little too quiet. The synth bridge reminds me of an old Nine Inch Nails synth voice. Another highlight is the drums toward the end. Dark Crystal: This doesn't remind me of Linkin Park in many ways, maybe just the structure and the way it builds. Not really my thing, but no major complaints. Nice to see a demo like this and that Mike has still been doing hip-hop centric demos like this even today (well, 2015). Air Force One: Nothing really grabs me here. Bleed It Out: Mike's flow is pretty good on here and I like the lyrics. I wish the drums would come in at the start of the second verse like on the album instead of right before the chorus. I really like the very end when Mike starts rapping again. The bass is a little different but it's cool; the light piano is a nice touch too. Consequence A and B: A should stay the way it is an be the intro to a full song; I can't really picture it fitting on ATS or even LT though. B is weird. Lies Greed Misery: Wait wasn't the demo called Piledriver? Kinda cool how Mike was laying out ideas on this but it was just the one loop. I'd like to hear what the demo sounded like when it got the full structure the way that LGM sounds on LT. Burberry: Too short, could be really cool though. Symphonies Of Light Reprise: ACOUSTIC!!! This could have been a great outro to ATS if the band hadn't written The Messenger - I wonder how that decision went down. I like how the synth from The Catalyst comes back in, but it should have been on a piano or something acoustic so it wouldn't clash. I like it more than I like the last two LPU releases but I wish the short songs were at least full, other than the ones that were possibly intended as interludes. It's nice that we are getting more recent demos, so I wonder if they have reached the bottom of the barrel for old demos. Other than demos of songs that are on the old albums that haven't been released yet (PMA, Numb, etc.), I wonder if there are any other finished songs that haven't been released yet. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielpsoad-09 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Not the best LPU ever, but I really dig Dark Crystal. I wish they could have added some creepy rap/vocals and made it into a full song. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranger Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) ...but I really dig Dark Crystal. I wish they could have added some creepy rap/vocals and made it into a full song. +1 "Dark Crystal" is my favourite track from LPU16. Edited November 22, 2016 by Stranger Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonR24 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) I like the CD this year. Not the best, but I really enjoy Can' Hurt Me. Would've liked to hear some vocals on it! Dark Crystal got me in the zone haha, I was at the gym as I listened to the new LPU and this one surprised me. Bleed It Out kind of disappointed me because I was anticipating it to be one of those 'complete demo' songs they have on the LPU CD's, glad we got a new Shinoda rap, that is cool. Also a different idea of how the bridge could've sounded. Consequences A & B were really good especially once the melody kicked in, A sounds better, but I like B because it's a bit longer. Lies Greed Misery (Demo) reminded me of a Kanye track for some reason with Mikes gibberish delivery, I actually kind of dig it. Could have been a cool intro honestly. Symphonies of Light would have probably been the real end to ATS or a transition to The Messenger. It's short, but cool to hear it. Edited November 22, 2016 by BrandonR24 Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paree Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 +1 "Dark Crystal" is my favourite track from LPU16. Me too! the production is too good for a demo. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HybridT Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) I have a question. I joined LPU 15 last october (nearly 2 months ago). Do I need to renew my account again? Edited November 22, 2016 by HybridT Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stich Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Did a trial version exist like LPU15? And also someone know why I can't see the lputv videos even if I have an account? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Did a trial version exist like LPU15? And also someone know why I can't see the lputv videos even if I have an account? Not sure about a trial version, I don't think there is, but like I said, I'm not sure. As for the LPUTV videos, there is probably some kind of a bug with the site... Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stich Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) Not sure about a trial version, I don't think there is, but like I said, I'm not sure. As for the LPUTV videos, there is probably some kind of a bug with the site...The site says me exclusive content, but as I say I have an lp account.Not sure if a membership is needed Edited November 22, 2016 by stich Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiderSSPU Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) Catalyst is definitely mixed differently, sounds dope though. New lyrics are cool.Would love to hear Can't Hurt Me with vocals. This is super dope! Really hoping that's from after THP because I would love LP7 to sound like this!Not feeling Dark Crystal/Air Force One/Bleed It Out (The old lyrics are awful)/Consequence A/Symphonies of Blinding LightConsequence B is not bad. I could see this being developed into a sick rap rock song but with a Chester singing over a Hip-Hop beat instead of Mike rapping over rock.Lies Greed Misery and Blurberry are dope! Definitely two of the better tracks.Overall Can't Hurt Me is my one takeaway for these demos. Not the biggest fan of instrumentals, especially unfinished, but I really Like what I heard here!My favorites:1. Can't Hurt Me2. The Catalyst (almost the same song and I love that song)3. Lies Greed Misery Edited November 22, 2016 by Bliss Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkinparkfan17 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Shake your bum duh duh danna Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyice318 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Can't Hurt Me (2014), Bleed It Out (2007), Consequence A-B (2010), Symphonies Of Light Reprise (2010) my favorite #LPU16 demo. We have the same taste, good work Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpliveusername Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Also, is there a place where I can find all the LPU tracklists in one place? I don't own anything pre-2009 and while I know most of what came out, I just want to look at the official tracklists to compare. I think this is the closest we have: http://linkinpedia.com/index.php?title=List_Of_Songs_By_Linkin_Park#LP_Underground Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiderSSPU Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) I think this is the closest we have: http://linkinpedia.com/index.php?title=List_Of_Songs_By_Linkin_Park#LP_Underground Thanks. I actually deleted that part of my comment as I found something. This has them all: http://wiki.lpassociation.com/index.php?title=LP_Underground_15 Also, Does anyone know if the Bi-monthly releases from LUP15 can be retroactively purchased/downloaded? Edited November 22, 2016 by Bliss Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iPodwithnomusic Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Thanks. I actually deleted that part of my comment as I found something. This has them all: http://wiki.lpassociation.com/index.php?title=LP_Underground_15 Also, Does anyone know if the Bi-monthly releases from LUP15 can be retroactively purchased/downloaded? As far as I know, anyone with an LPU membership can download those bi-monthly releases for free. But if you join now you will have to pay for the ones on the disc. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiderSSPU Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 As far as I know, anyone with an LPU membership can download those bi-monthly releases for free. But if you join now you will have to pay for the ones on the disc. Ah, sounds good. Thank you for the response Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkinparkfan17 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 We heard this catalyst demo remember hearing it in a trailer for a Japanese game Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickLPL Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I'm not feeling the 2015 demos. Can't hurt me sounds good though. I think this was one of the soft songs that they considered for THP (like Until it's gone and final masquerade). Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I would have freaked out if Dark crystal became an actual song, whether for LP or Fort minor, it's so awesome and dark, I love that ominous atmosphere. Can't say I disliked any of the demos, all were great and some of them really could have been worked out a little bit more to be included on an album. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickLPL Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I would have freaked out if Dark crystal became an actual song, whether for LP or Fort minor, it's so awesome and dark, I love that ominous atmosphere. Can't say I disliked any of the demos, all were great and some of them really could have been worked out a little bit more to be included on an album. I love your coconut picture Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) I love your coconut picture I laughed so much when I saw this in LPTV hahaha Edited November 23, 2016 by Kilmer Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickLPL Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I laughed so much when I saw this in LPTV hahaha Me too! Brad's humour is the best Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Wish we got demos of songs that made the cut instead of the other shit here. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyice318 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Wish we got demos of songs that made the cut instead of the other shit here. So negative... would you prefer LPU 7 and 8 all over again? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyleronlplive Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Has anyone else noticed that Symphonies of Light Reprise is similar to what Mike would sint and play on the keyboard/vocoder during The Radiance at some ATS shows? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/12439-lpu-16-has-launched/page/3/#findComment-268153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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