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I don't see how anyone can say OML isn't a pop album. Pop is a pretty wide spectrum and it isn't an inherently negative term. I could see an argument for calling ATS and LT rock to an extent (not traditional rock, but some sub genre or something), but OML is 100% a pop album.

If Mike's solo tour has proved one thing, it's that the band really doesn't need a new vocalist to take Chester's place. Mike is a more than capable frontman and he's clearly shown he is able to handle enough LP songs to fill out a setlist, and that's including the usual "safe" singles like ITE, Heavy etc. Yeah, OSC is probably gonna be retired, but the band had been steadily reducing the importance of OSC in the set since 2014 (them moving it from basically always closing or opening to just a mid-set song, to me, was them saying it's not a cornerstone of the set anymore). And what other songs had they been performing regularly would really be at risk outside of that one song?

Mike has said quite a few times that Post Traumatic was his journey out of the darkness, so putting a huge focus on his immediate grief surrounding Chester would sort of conflict with that. The first few songs on the album are about that grief (namely the EP songs and NMSA), but most of the album was meant to be him trying to find ways to move forward and make something out of a tragedy.

Yeah and anyone who thought he was grieving for anything other than his friend is so out of touch it's astounding

The run of holiday shows continue tonight in San Jose, California with ALT 103.5's Not So Silent Night. Mike tends to play it pretty safe with festival shows, but he still makes sure to bring the energy. Despite a few hiccups, he gave his all at the festival show in Brooklyn the other day, with staples like 'Running From My Shadow' and the medley of 'About You', 'Over Again', 'Papercut' continuing to explode on the stage. Check out Mike, Matt, and Dan performing the always fun 'About You', 'Over Again', and 'Papercut'. The live instruments on 'About You' really give that song a new life! It's been a minute since Mike has been to San Jose. Linkin Park was scheduled to play the city in 2017 on the One More Light North American Tour, but that was canceled for understandable reasons. Prior to that, Mike hadn't been there since 2011 on the A Thousand Suns North American Tour which featured an intense encore starting with a run of 'Empty Spaces', 'When They Come For Me', and 'Papercut', as well as a surprise singalong version of 'Iridescent' and an impromptu rendition of 'The Messenger' due to Mike's keyboard breaking after the Oppenheimer outro of 'Numb'. Before that, the band hadn't played San Jose since 2004 during the Meteora cycle. We unfortunately still don't have the setlist for that show, so if you have any info on it, feel free to send it our way! Linkin Park made two stops in the city back in 2001 as well, the latter of which was a festival show (not unlike tonight) and had the rather rare 'My December' and 'Step Up' and the even rarer cover of 'Sweet Child O' Mine'. Watch Linkin Park perform a completely impromptu 'The Messenger' in 2011 due to technical difficulties. Mike is performing pretty early tonight on a stacked lineup and is slotted for around 30 minutes, much like Brooklyn, so we probably shouldn't be expecting any surprises. What we wouldn't be too surprised to see, though, is a different intro song and a slightly reordered set. 'Remember The Name' opened Brooklyn, so could we see one of the other Fort Minor singles ('Petrified' or 'Welcome') opening tonight? Is anyone going tonight? After this, Mike is doing one last stop at KROQ Almost Acoustic Christmas (where he and Linkin Park have quite a long history) before taking a much deserved break for the holidays. He'll pick back up next year in Europe, though! We'll keep you updated on everything that happens at this show and on the rest of the tour, so be sure to follow us on Twitter and Facebook for updates, and feel free to join the LPL Discord Server, where you can talk to fans from all around the world. There's also the recently launched LPLive Archive YouTube Channel where we upload all kinds of rare content from the Linkin Park world. Check out the rest of Mike Shinoda's touring schedule here.

"I knew I was in a dark place in the months following Chester’s death. Eventually, a few wise friends told me, 'there’s no changing what has happened. The only thing you can do is find a way to see what new paths this loss opens up.'" Mike grieved in his own way, and he is under no obligation to make that part of the process public. Post Traumatic, the tour, the speeches every single night he plays a show; that's what he feels comfortable making public.

Hold It Together, IOU, and World's On Fire

1. He isn't opening for them? He plays after them. 2. He didn't even really diss them. He said that wasn't the kind of music he wanted to make with THP and that he felt there was too much of that style of music on rock stations. Hell, Mike has said multiple times that he likes them!

Why would you bump this topic, especially since the question it was posing was answered 8 years ago, effectively ending the discussion?

I can get behind the K. Flay comments. The features on the album don't really do much for me barring grandson's part on RFMS (though I don't mind Chino). K. Flay has bothered me less as I've had more time with the song/album, but I definitely would have preferred just having Mike do the hook or at the very least have the two sing together, which I think is actually my issue with MGK and Blackbear too. They took away a spot that Mike could have done and, in my opinion, probably could've done better. HIT, though, is where we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. That's one of my favorite songs on the album.

MGK's verse is the second worst moment on the album IMO (Blackbear's feature still takes that spot)

1. Place To Start 2. Watching As I Fall 3. Until It Breaks (Shortened) 4. Hold It Together 5. When They Come For Me 6. Lift Off (Live Version; w/ 'High Voltage', 'Dedicated', 'Sorry For Now') 7. World's On Fire (Ext. Bridge w/ Drum Solo + 'Robot Boy' Synth Solo) 8. Castle Of Glass (Piano Style; Piano Transition Ending) 9. In The End (Piano Version; Piano Intro w/ 'Hands Held High') 10. Nothing Makes Sense Anymore (Piano Version) 11. Roads Untraveled (Piano Intro) 12. No Roads Left 13. Ghosts 14. Invisible (Ext. Bridge w/ Drum Solo) 15. Make It Up As I Go 16. Promises I Can't Keep 17. Rebellion (Ext. Bridge w/ 'A Place For My Head') 18. Running From My Shadow ------------ 19. Papercut (Ext. Intro w/ 'Over Again') 20. Kenji 21. Can't Hear You Now 22. Cigarettes (2015 Remix Version) 23. Good Goodbye/Bleed It Out/Lost In The Echo (Mashup; Ext. Outro)

Well, this is it guys. Mike closes out the Outbreak Tour tonight in Silver Spring, Maryland, and we could be in for a wild ride! Last night's show in Detroit, Michigan was truly a special one. From the incredibly rare 'Remember The Name' opener to the still surprising new closer in 'A Place For My Head' featuring tour opener Don Broco, Mike is not letting this tour go quietly into the night! He also made sure to incorporate rarities like 'Until It Breaks' and 'It's Goin' Down' into the set, gave 'Roads Untraveled' a short piano intro for the first time, and he even gave his usual 'In The End' speech to 'Heavy', where he talked about the initial reception the song got as a single, comparing it to the reactions the band got when they released other singles like 'In The End', 'Leave Out All The Rest', and 'Guilty All The Same' (which even Mike commented made absolutely no sense to him). It was truly a great addition to an incredibly unpredictable tour. Check out Mike opening the show with a run of 'Remember The Name' (which has only opened one other show on the tour so far) and 'When They Come For Me' Since Mike has never actually played a show in Silver Spring before (nice to see him visiting new places on this tour), let's talk for a minute about his history in Maryland. Linkin Park has a brief, but fun, history in the state. The band first played in Maryland in 2000 on Kottonmouth Kings's Ridin' High Tour and later hit Baltimore that same year. Unfortunately, we don't have the sets for either of these shows, so if you have any info, feel free to let us know! The Meteora era saw the band's return to the state on Metallica's Summer Sanitarium Tour, which featured fan favorite tracks like 'Figure.09' and 'P5hng Me A*wy' (which we would love to see make its return at some point!) and the always welcome '1stp Klosr' bridge on 'One Step Closer'. Linkin Park's last stop in Maryland was on the Minutes To Midnight North American Tour in 2008, which had an insane 'No More Sorrow' opener, a relatively rare 'Valentine's Day' (another song we wouldn't mind see making its comeback), and a beautiful first encore of the piano version of 'My December' and 'What I've Done' with its "AMBO Intro". Watch Linkin Park take Baltimore by storm with the incredibly epic 'No More Sorrow' intro in 2008. It's a shame this song got dropped after the A Thousand Suns tour and never returned to the set. You'd think that coming up on the 25th show of the tour, we'd know what to expect, but we still can't seem to predict what Mike is gonna do! After the tour debuts of 'Invisible' and 'High Road' (which has still only been played once all tour) in Denver, the one-off performance of 'Place To Start' (which hadn't been played since Chengdu back in August) in San Francisco, and the complete surprise of 'A Place For My Head' with Don Broco in Boston all coming on the last few shows of the tour, Mike shows no sign of slowing down despite the tour coming to a close. That's not even considering the rare songs in rotation like 'Watching As I Fall' (only played 3 times this tour), 'Cigarettes', and 'Kenji'. We could really see anything tonight, especially given the trend of the final headlining show of a tour having quite a few surprises! Singapore at the end of the Asia leg of the tour had the debuts of 'High Road' and 'Hold It Together' and his show in Vienna had what our team has dubbed the "Vienna Four", which consists of 'In Stereo' (the first time it had been played since the Fort Minor comeback tour in 2015), the 2015 remix of 'Cigarettes' (which had been played once before on the tour in an acapella form, but not in full since 2015), 'Until It Breaks' (which had only been done once on Mike's solo tour), and 'It's Goin' Down' (which had only been done over the intro to 'Kenji' prior on Mike's solo tour). If he keeps up the trend, this show could be absolutely insane! There's still two songs Mike has expressed interest in doing that he hasn't played yet: 'Can't Hear You Now' and 'Waiting For Tomorrow'. Could we see either of those tonight? There's also several Post Traumatic songs that Mike hasn't brought to the stage in full yet, the most interesting of which is 'Lift Off' which has been soundchecked on the tour with lyrics from older songs mashed up with it. Mike could bring this out tonight as well! That's not to mention songs on the playlist Mike posted back before the tour started, which had a few songs that Mike has yet to play like 'Burning In The Skies' and 'Believe Me' (the latter of which we thought for sure would have been played by now). Anything is on the table for tonight! Who's going to the show? After this, Mike is taking a bit of a break before heading back out for some holiday radio shows in New York (where both Hahninator (Mark) and Rogue Soul (Dylan) will get to see Mike again) and in California. We'll keep you updated on everything that happens at this show and on the rest of the tour, so be sure to follow us on Twitter and Facebook for updates, and feel free to join the LPL Discord Server, where you can talk to fans from all around the world. There's also the recently launched LPLive Archive YouTube Channel where we upload all kinds of rare content from the Linkin Park world. Check out the rest of Mike Shinoda's touring schedule here.

Well, Invisible and NCSM were started by March of 2016, and the band met with Jon Green starting in November of 2015 and Mike met with Justin Parker in September (don't know if anything was written though), so I wouldn't be surprised if NCSM and Invisible (maybe BS too) were the earliest songs from OML.

I'm fine with ITE, but I really don't think Numb was necessary on here, especially since there are only 2 PT tracks. Why not Ghosts or RFMS instead?

I want to say that Robot Boy was mentioned on Mike's blog in 2009 in some way, but as far as I know the blog isn't available anymore. The ATS demos started changing from the heavier demos to closer to what the album would sound like around October of 2009, so Robot Boy probably came from around that time if I'm remembering correctly.

Mike seems to be preparing a live video for his latest single 'Make It Up As I Go', and he wants your footage for it! At his show in LA on November 2nd (that's tonight, by the way), make sure to film the song (Mike specifically requests horizontal video) while it's being performed and upload it here if you want your footage in the video. This wouldn't be the first time the Linkin Park camp has done something like this. Back in 2011, the band took footage from the Chicago and St. Paul dates on the North American tour for a live video for 'Waiting For The End'. They later did the same concept when the band played Milan in 2014 for 'Until It's Gone'. Anyone here attending and planning on participating? Make sure to follow us on Twitter and Facebook for the latest updates (including when the video comes out), and join the LPLive Discord for discussion with fans around the world!

Or, you know, when the band is active again in a year or so and they're ready to start releasing music, including through the LPU, again?

I mean, yeah the song is slow, but it's a different kind of slow than, say, In Between or the Ballad Medley which just plodded along and really fucked the pacing of the show. TLTGYA is a damn masterpiece and it culminating in Brad's solo and those harmonies is magical. I really wish I got to see it live.