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inb4 actual tour dates are announced and a bunch of people bitch that LP "lied" about coming to their city based on this list because they don't know what a market is. *Edit* Pretty sure they're playing the Minnesota State Fair again on August 25th. It's the only date of their concert series that hasn't been announced yet: http://www.mnstatefair.org/entertainment/grandstand.html

Management has blocked Sean's efforts to re-release Grey Daze material as recently as 2007 though. It's always seemed like they want to sweep the fact that Chester was in a band before LP under the rug.

I feel like there's probably a 98% chance this never actually happens.

That's a shame, considering Matt Skiba can actually sing.

Definitely better than nothing, but given the 2005 VMAs situation, I'm not really inclined to believe that the full track is only a minute long. Same goes with the 30-second intro to Into the Badlands, and I know for a fact the theme for This Is Life is longer than the 30-second version in the show. I just wish whenever Mike did a project like this, he'd take it upon himself to release the music in one way or another, because that's the only way we could really be sure.

Yeah, after watching it again I see it. In the wide angle shot, it totally looks like that camera is coming up the stairs that are closer to the stage that you can see in the second shot. Just seems off because of the lack of depth perception from the first angle.

Doesn't matter. It's a Linkin Park song on a Linkin Park studio album, and if they don't want people to believe that they endorse the use of that word and all of the connotations that go with it, they should have made the executive decision to not allow it. As an unapologetic feminist ally, I'm going to be judging them VERY harshly for this for a VERY long time.

I don't think I've EVER used the term "selling out" unironically at any point in the nearly 14 years I've been part of this community, but I have to say that Linkin Park allowing a line that refers to "hoes" to appear on an album is something that meets my definition of selling out. I realize this line was already crossed with the I'll Be Gone remix, but that was a remix, after all.

Wastelands was also in Guitar Hero Live, although apparently with the way audio is handled in that game the "multitrack" would basically just be 2 tracks, one with the guitar and one with the rest of the song. As for Roads Untraveled, that one's news to me but if it's legit it's probably a result of someone having connections to people who were involved with the Living Things: Remixed and/or Recharged projects. The thought of that being out there excites me because Roads Untraveled is easily one of my top 5 songs I'd love to have stems for (Castle of Glass, TLTGYA, Easier to Run, and Robot Boy fill out that list for me).

Not to mention Chester teleports halfway down the runway from one shot to the next. They clearly did multiple takes.

Andy Wallace mixed Hybrid Theory. Credited engineers are Steve Sisco and Matt Griffin, in addition to Don Gilmore and Mike Shinoda.

Most of the DVDs have 5.1 audio. I know Live in Texas does.

This isn't unprecedented from them. Let's put it this way, if nu metal had somehow remained popular during the gap between Meteora and MTM, their third album absolutely would have been the "Hybrid Theory Part 3" they've always sworn they would never make.

Highly likely that the instrumentals are the same source we already have. Unauthorized stuff like this wouldn't have access to official material so if they're the real instrumentals they were probably just downloaded from the Internet by whoever is making this.

Chester's voice is doing its typical "sound good for the first few live appearances and then start getting all pitchy and strained-sounding" thing. More than a little concerning that this is already happening after a few sporadic promo appearances where no more than 4 songs have been performed. I mean, I know jetlag is a thing, but c'mon, the guy's even working with a vocal coach these days, you'd think his endurance wouldn't get WORSE...

demetruis04401. I paid a few extra bucks for expedited shipping on mine since the sale price was so cheap, if you were wondering why I got mine relatively quick. No further correspondence on my end, btw.

Well, I received my Amazon order of what was supposed to be Rapology Vol. 11 today...and opened up the package to find a copy of Tune Towne XI. Completely different Urban Network compilation series, with none of the artists mentioned in the original item listing on the tracklisting of the CD I received. Contacted the seller and got my money refunded (guy literally responded in less than 5 minutes and said he'll see if he has the correct CD to re-ship to me), but I'm not holding my breath that I'm actually going to get a copy of the correct CD, considering there are no further copies of Rapology 11 listed for sale at the moment. So I have a copy of a completely unrelated ridiculously-hard-to-find rap compilation, but that may be as far as this lead goes. Sorry guys.

Jeremy was actually Mike's guitar tech at the time. Sean was still working with Brad at that point but he actually missed the Japan trip that year too (he joked that Brad didn't want to go because he wasn't going).

Yeah, it's mostly the same instrumental track that appeared on the LPU CD, actually. Different intro, a few things tweaked here and there, but generally it doesn't sound like a whole lot was re-recorded.

LOL WOW. Okay so first of all, this is clearly a live vocals, pre-recorded music performance - NOTHING Joe, Rob, Dave, or Jeremy are doing for the first half of the song lines up with the audio. I literally thought the video was just horribly out of sync until the vocals came in. The vocals are like 2 bars behind the track for that entire portion, and all of the instrumentalists are playing in sync with the vocals, not the audio. Probably a case of the track being played in their in-ears not being synced with the playback of the audio going to the broadcast feed. What I don't understand is how they randomly manage to get back in sync without any apparent confusion after the first chorus, lol.

No. With the exception of a percentage of artist royalties paid directly to band members because they're Warner Brothers artists appearing on a Warner Brothers album, people who perform on a song but aren't credited as songwriters (in this case, Rob, Dave, and Joe) don't receive ANY royalty money. Mechanical royalties, synchronization, and live performance royalties exclusively go to songwriters. Great article explaining this: http://www.tunecore.com/blog/2011/08/im-in-a-band-but-im-not-the-songwriter.html This doesn't necessarily mean the other 3 guys aren't getting paid. There might be some arrangement between them, the label, and the credited songwriters where they receive an overall share of profits regardless of where they come from, or they could be under contract to Linkin Park in a way that the band essentially functions as their employer and they're getting paid a certain amount of money regardless of what they do (in which case, you could argue that they're not technically "band members" anymore). But regardless, something changed, because the previous six albums always credited all members equally.

It's not the band's fault that people like you are taking a singular quote that pertained to the writing process behind a singular album out of context and interpreting it as if it's supposed to be some goddamn "THOU SHALT NEVER WRITE POP SONGS" manifesto that the band has to be held to for the rest of their fucking career. LP put Wastelands on The Hunting Party after saying prior to A Thousand Suns that they were "throwing out anything that sounded like Hybrid Theory/Meteora," but I don't see you complaining about that or calling LP hypocrites for it. ^ New personal policy of mine, I'm keeping the above text saved so I can copy-paste it every time you or anyone else cite this quote out of context as some kind of justification for your bullshit.

I got a shipping confirmation on Monday and have tracking info.

Excited to learn that even if there's nothing musical involving the band on it, sounds like Rapology 11 may at least have Joe's artwork on it. My copy should be arriving in the next few days, I'll keep you guys posted.

Didn't realize it was a personal attack against you to use the Quote button on a public forum, LOL. You think I pick and choose your criticisms out of everything? You're fucking delusional. You always have been. This is a 5-page discussion with very few replies that I deemed worthy of individual response, and elected to address my thoughts on a variety of opinions posed in this thread via the general statement before your post that I quoted, which was the only post in the thread expressing your particular viewpoint. Compare that with the 24-page monstrosity the LPA topic has grown into and the cesspool of garbage I had to wade through to make it to the end, and you end up with this: http://www.lpassociation.com/forum/threads/linkin-park-battle-symphony-full-song-leaked-online.42896/page-24#post-1424529 But no, I TOTALLY just have it out for you. Keep on thinking that.