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I think that's true of Inside of Me and Crawl Back In, but not necessarily My Suffering and Fire - of the 4 officially released songs, I really like two and don't care for two. I think Walking in Circles and Let Down are going to be the best songs on the album though.

Only if a studio version of said live performance exists, which in most cases is probably true (although we don't have the majority of those recordings), QWERTY being one of the few exceptions I can think of. A live recording itself isn't a demo though.

People always post fake leaks of highly anticipated albums, regardless of who the artist is.

It's pretty much the same lyrical content as Given Up with a couple of the words changed...? I don't see what's so hard to get about that. "What the hell is wrong with me" "What the fuck is wrong with me" "This isn't who I'm supposed to be" "Put me out of my misery"

Definitely my least favorite of the 4 released songs so far. Outside of the bridge which was kind of interesting, this song sounds like total filler to me - same filtered vocal "call and response" thing in the verses as My Suffering, and the line "What the hell is wrong with me/this isn't who I'm supposed to be" just screams "Given Up Part 2."

All the special editions did. I'm talking about the standard edition.

I gave Built From Scratch a spin earlier in his honor. R.I.P.

Not interested in any of this shortened song garbage, sorry. All 4 songs have been hacked to pieces.

Listen to Kenji, then listen to Hands Held High. Listen to Red to Black, then listen to From the Inside. Listen to Where'd You Go, then listen to In Between. etc...

Cool, I'd never seen Live in Texas, Collision Course, or The Rising Tied in jewel cases before. I don't see the Reanimation or Meteora ones very much either.

I don't see how you can consider anything performed live a "demo."

Cool to know we'll be getting a studio version of 20 Eyes, I bet they'll play it live too (I totally called that they'd do a cover). I wonder if any of the other Bucket of Weenies tunes will be revisited by DBS?

The only ones that would remotely qualify as "demos" that I can think of are the 2005 VMA score version of 100 Degrees, and the alternate version of Spraypaint & Inkpens that Lupe Fiasco leaked a while before We Major came out (it had a different ending than the mixtape version). Oh, and the early clips of Introduction and Remember the Name that were posted on the Fort Minor website when it was under construction, those were different than the final album versions too.

WAHHHHHHHHHH. There's been a whopping TWO "real" DBS shows announced, and you're already complaining. Unbelievable.

Possible video source for Mountain View '08? - It's at least a 3-cam mix (one cam is on the video screen, picture-in-picture style) with SBD audio overdubbed, seems likely that they filmed the whole show.

The new verses sound WAY more similiar to Little Sister than the old ones. And nobody was comparing the song to Little Sister when all we had heard was the '08 version anyway.

If there's any complaint I have about DBS's production, it might be that the keyboards/synths are louder than they need to be a lot of the time. The kind of stuff Fu plays, from what I've heard so far, just sounds like it's supposed to be another layer of sound underneath everything else that's already there, so I don't see why he has to be so loud in the mix all the time. As far as I know, Elias doesn't have a double bass pedal on his live drum kit, it must have been something they just did in the studio. I agree Chester's better live on DBS stuff than LP stuff...he's better at pretty much anything that isn't LP, in fact. I'm starting to think that his vocal issues during LP performances are caused by some kind of mental block. And the more I compare them, the more I'm starting to realize just how similar this song is to Little Sister. The choruses sound kind of similar too, the main difference is the arrangement with how Little Sister has a guitar solo in the middle and a long instrumental outro.

Another thing I want to mention...I just went back and watched the '08 live version for the first time in a while, and while I, like a lot of people, prefer the scream-y approach to the verses, the lyrics to that version sounded WAY under-developed, to the point that Chester didn't even sing anything for half of one of the verses. I'm kind of surprised he even performed it that way, because it obviously wasn't a finished song yet. I think the '08 vocals were better, but the '09 lyrics are WAY better, and My Suffering is probably a better song overall that way.

I think LP is kind of hit and miss lyrically...the DBS stuff so far seems a lot more consistent. I'd take Fire over Numb lyrically any day, but LP's best stuff is still better than anything DBS has put out to this point.

Ever heard of Hybrid Theory and Meteora? Those albums are way more over-produced than anything DBS has released to this point. Meteora especially. Pretty much all the drums on JK's studio recordings are programmed. It shows how badass Elias is that he's able to translate them into live drum parts though. Little Sister and My Suffering are 2 out of probably thousands of songs that are built around a minor key I-V-iii-vii progression. I also must be the only person who thinks the studio version destroys the live version (I feel that way about all 3 DBS songs released to this point). DBS live has not impressed me one bit so far.

The Transformers premiere one is the only one I've heard so far that's even listenable, in my opinion. And that's only because they edited the hell out of it. A certain person told me, after the very first time they listened to New Divide, "Sweet, more notes that Chester will never be able to hit live." And so far, they've been totally right.

Why would they be under NDAs if the entire purpose of these listening parties is to get people to write reviews of the record...?

Yes, an eBay power seller with almost 10,000 positive feedback ratings is selling counterfeit merchandise.

Brad didn't break a string during New Divide - sounds like the battery in his wireless pack was going dead, which is why the guitar sounded weak/"clean" up until he changed it.

It's a rough demo that we're probably never going to hear. Who cares? Seriously.