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The "remix" was strictly a single/radio/music video edit...plus it was probably made well after the movie was already finished.

Not to be derailing the topic at hand, but the Milton Keynes DSP and the Road to Revolution audio were sourced from the same audio mix and almost identical. The RTR audio just had additional work done to it to fix mistakes, and it was remastered by Brian "Big Bass" Gardner for the physical release, which resulted in a slightly louder-sounding product.

Rob's samples for his drum triggers came from an MPC for a long time (not sure what model, it probably changed over the years anyway), but I believe he switched to M-Audio gear at the same time Joe did around the start of the Minutes to Midnight touring cycle.

Finally getting around to posting some corrections... 5. At a live show in Tuscan, Arizona in 2003, Brad and Joe swapped instruments to play the song "A.06". There is a picture of the incident in the "From The Inside: Linkin Park's Meteora" book. - This one REALLY needs to be corrected. First of all, "Tuscon," not "Tuscan." Secondly, Brad and Joe DID NOT swap instruments to play A.06, they swapped instruments at one point during the show, and at another point during the show, LP played A.06 (this confusion stems from a "did you know" fact that was worded very poorly on pushmeaway.com like 7 years ago). Lastly, I have the FTI book, and to my knowledge, there is no such photo in there, but you might want to double-check on that. 8. "Session", "Somewhere I Belong", and “From The Inside” were some of the earliest Meteora demos, dating back to mid-2001. The latter were also the final two songs to be finished in the album mixing process. - SIB and FTI were actually two out of the last three songs finished, Nobody's Listening was also completed during mixing. 10. In 2003, the Linkin Park Street Team received promo stickers for Meteora without “Hit The Floor” listed as a track. The reason? Noone really knows! - It's always bugged me to no end when people write "no one" as one word. NOO-NAY FTW! 12. “One Step Closer” and “In The End” are a few of Chester’s least favorite Linkin Park songs. When they initially made them, he thought neither was good enough to include on Hybrid Theory. - Chester's also named Runaway, Hit the Floor, and Nobody's Listening as some of his other least favorites, and it seems like he's more adamant about those. OSC and ITE were mainly just songs that he didn't think were very good when they were originally written. 14. Even though the band hails from the Los Angeles, CA area and records there, they’ve actually recorded one song in another city. "My December" was recorded in Nashville, TN in 2000 for inclusion on a KROQ Christmas album. - This one is pretty out of date, LP's parts for We Made It were recorded in Taiwan, and a lot of their more recent stuff has been recorded all over the place (Portions of A Thousand Suns were recorded in Los Angeles, New York, and Berlin). 21. Chester recorded a track with DJ Lethal (of Limp Bizkit) entitled "State of the Art", originally scheduled for Lethal's now scrapped solo Project. Part of the track debuted on KROQ radio's 'Scratch-and-Sniff' program in 2004 and was released by LPLive in 2009. - This is worded really badly, it should specify that the full version was released in 2009, this makes it sound like the partial version didn't surface for 5 years. Scratch and Sniff also wasn't on KROQ, it was on 91X in the Atlanta area (which may be a KROQ affiliate, I'm not sure). 38. The band performed a partial cover of Jet's "Are You Gonna Be My Girl?" at a show in St. Paul, MN in 2004. Due to a dare, Mike came out from backstage dressed in a full tuxedo! - More specifically, he was actually wearing a suit jacket and a hat similar to the one worn by Jet's drummer in the music video for the same song. 43. A version of the song “Esual” (which later became “A Place For My Head”) was written with the band Xero. - Typo: "Esaul," not "Esual." 58. On the Summer Sanitarium Tour in 2003 with Metallica, Brad and Chester routinely smashed a guitar after "A Place For My Head" near the end of the set. - This also happened during quite a few Projekt Revolution 2004 shows. 104. The band has released several other songs from the Minutes To Midnight recording sessions. No Roads Left, Across The Line, Blackbirds and Not Alone were all worked on in 2006-2007. - You can add Pale and What We Don't Know to this list as well. Pretend to Be was also apparently started during the MTM sessions, but not finished until 2008. Due to licensing restrictions, the song 'Wisdom, Justice, & Love' can no longer be distributed though Linkin Park's DSP's. The last DSP to feature it was Tampa 2011. - I thought both Atlanta and Detroit initially had WJ&L? I know it was removed later. Though the final recording of 'Faint' is 135bpm, the original demo was only at 70bpm! - To clarify, this isn't referring to the demo found on LPU9, that one is at the same tempo as the final version. The 70bpm version was essentially just a rough guitar track that Brad put down as the early "seed" for the song, and Mike ended up writing the rest of the song at a much faster tempo. 'H! Vltg3' off of Reanimation samples a song called "All For One" by the group Brand Nubian. The members of the group are credited in the liner notes of the album. - The sample in question is the line "And I can think of many episodes I swung in Lincoln Park," which is scratched near the end of the song. H! Vltg3 also samples "Family" by Lamont Dozier (the main piano part comes from that song), which isn't credited in the liner notes, but the sample was still cleared by management.

I don't think it's an unreasonable expectation to think that if you're going to organize a flash mob around a certain song, the people doing it should actually know what the song is. Maybe not a Russia-specific fail (which I don't think was the intent of Mark's statement anyway, other than to say that it happened in Russia), but more than deserving of the "epic fail" label. In Soviet Russia, song flash mobs you!

FYI, Phoenix is now using his Z-tar on Blackout instead of playing the bassline on an MPC like he did in the past. And as for the whole "Blackout makes the set" argument, as a musician, I have to say that if people were bitching that much about my setlists and then completely changed their opinion based on the inclusion of one song, I would seriously just start going on stage, playing that one song, and leaving. Why waste the effort of putting on a full show when people apparently don't give a shit about the other 24 songs? I'm convinced that the "ideal" LP setlist to some people would be the following: 1. With You 2. Figure.09 3. Blackout 4. A Place for My Head End of show. Cue fanboy jizz-in-pants-a-thon.

It sounds to me like Pooch has been leaving the crowd mics open in a more natural manner on the more recent stuff. On the earlier DSPs, whenever the crowd would get really loud, you could tell it had been brought up in the mix because you'd hear the venue's natural ambiance bleeding back into the mix (the result of the crowd mics picking up the sound from the PA speakers), which caused some odd reverb/noise cancelling side-effects. That's been kind of smoothed over lately, but when you leave the crowd mics open all the time like that, it creates a much more open sound like what you're describing.

They've been out for months, but I still have no idea where to find all of them.

The Messenger was the first song to use "love" as a noun, as in the idea of love itself. All previous LP songs that used it were just using it as a verb.

...SEVEN of the first 13 songs from tonight's set are from A Thousand Suns. There are 8 songs from the album that get played every night, and 14 out of 15 are being played regularly in at least one of their setlists. What the fuck else do you want?

As promised, here's an audio rip of the webcast for y'all: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F5RF05BJ (320kbps mp3s, I also have the full show as a giant .wav file if anybody's interested in that). A few observations about the show I feel I should post: -Mike's guitar tech almost surely got an earful after Given Up. His guitar was in the wrong tuning for that song, which is why it sounded so bad and he didn't play the whole song. -For the first time since the live-in-studio performances in March of 2007 (Sessions@AOL, etc.), Brad used a Fernandes Dragonfly guitar on No More Sorrow. Normally he uses a modified PRS on that song. -Chester once again screwed up the ending to No More Sorrow, he repeated the chorus again instead of singing the outro (he's done that quite a few times on this touring cycle). -Not sure what was up with Mike's microphone during Numb, but he was laughing about it constantly while his tech was trying to fix it. Either the microphone stand broke, or they forgot to set up the other mic for The Radiance prior to Numb, so they had to do it during the song. -Something was up with Chester during the middle part of this show, he was visibly in some discomfort during Numb, pulling away from the microphone without finishing lines and stuff like that, then he actually walked off stage during the last chorus of Breaking the Habit (which I'm positive is why the acapella outro wasn't performed). He seemed to get better after that though. -Fallout wasn't "dropped," it was aborted. Check out the intro to The Catalyst, the droning keyboard note at the beginning goes on for a good 30 seconds before the song starts, and you can hear Mike go "alright then..." at one point. Looks like his vocoder crapped out on him once again. The timing on the intro of The Catalyst was also off for the first few bars. -Chester almost wiped out AFTER the show! At one point while he was throwing stuff to the crowd, he jumped up on one of the platforms, and it must have had some water on it or something, because he slipped, flailed in mid-air for a second, and thankfully landed on his feet. I was expecting a Melbourne '07 repeat for a second there! Anyway, I'm not even going to bother reading most of the responses to this thread. Without even looking, I know most of them consist of copious amounts of unwarranted bitching. Sure, that was an underwhelmingly average performance, and it sounded like they pretty much phoned it in, but I can pretty much guarantee most people's criticism won't be anywhere near that constructive. "OMG NO NEW SETLIST LP SUX DEY DON'T CARE ABOUT DA FANS NO MORE." - I'd be surprised if someone hasn't posted something to that effect already.

Looks like this is the last song for the Foos, for real this time. I'm gonna set my volume levels and start recording, enjoy the show guys! I'm sure there will be a ton of posts to catch up on in an hour and a half or so.

I wouldn't be surprised if LP ends up playing a bit later, with Foo Fighters doing a surprise set.

Just an update on something I posted earlier, I will 100% for sure be recording audio of the webcast now. I should have it uploaded in a .zip file shortly after the show ends.

Transformers version = Radio/single edit. They don't play the shortened version of The Catalyst from the music video live, now do they? I guarantee they'll continue to play the album version.

I should be able to rip the audio from the webcast, like I usually do. It'll be up to someone else to grab the video though.

If your opinion is so easily swayed that a VIDEO will actually change how you feel about a SONG, you probably need to get your priorities straightened out. I honestly don't give a crap about music videos anymore. They don't serve much of a purpose, since they hardly ever get shown on TV anymore, and you can always look up a song on Youtube whether there's a music video for it or not. If the music is good, that's all that matters. If the video is cool, it's a nice little bonus. If it isn't, you don't have to watch it, and you still have the song to listen to. I think the last music video I watched more than a handful of times was Breaking the Habit.

It's actually probably because of an audio/video sync issue. Check out Mike's lips on the first couple lines of the song - the video lags behind the audio quite a bit.

First show of the tour being webcasted = WIN. Anybody heard anything about BFD being webcasted?

Dude, you STILL don't have a ticket stub from St. Paul? I assumed somebody would've sent you one by now. Here you go: http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b168/bul...ff/DSC03221.jpg (Also, that post by TheNewFoShizzle that I deleted was actually me - My girlfriend forgot to log out of her account, haha).

I've been collecting bootlegs for about the same amount of time and probably have roughly the same number of recordings as you do. While you have a fair point about Mike addressing the crowd a lot, I find it hard to argue that Chester isn't the most visual performer in the band. I'm using a term that's usually specific to hip-hop here, but Mike's always struck me as more of a "hype man" with LP, at least when he isn't playing an instrument. His stage persona really only makes sense as a supplement to Chester's. Think of Mike in FM vs. Mike in LP...pretty different on stage, right? But compare Chester in DBS to Chester in LP, and there really isn't much of a difference. Chester's always had a lot more attitude and charisma on stage...and on top of that, go watch any fan-filmed Youtube videos from live performances, or look up media photos from concerts. Who gets the cameras pointed at them the most? Chester (to the point that it's borderline annoying). Normally I don't like to leave stuff like this up to the fans and media, but the focus on Chester is so prominent that it must exist for a reason. Did I say the band would necessarily be SUCCESSFUL without Chester? No, I didn't. I said they could replace him if they had to. The band could continue with another lead vocalist if they had to, because Mike is the band's primary songwriter. Linkin Park without Chester Bennington would be like Judas Preist without Rob Halford or Aerosmith without Steven Tyler: Far from a popular decision with the fans, but something that wouldn't be impossible for the band to work around. I also find it funny that you went to such great lengths to defend Chester as the frontman when I said he's the frontman in the first place.

Mike is undoubtedly the LEADER of the band, in fact I'd argue that he always has been. He writes the majority of the music and a good chunk of the lyrics. The fact of the matter is, Linkin Park could replace Chester if they had to. They're already on their second lead vocalist as it is. But "frontman" implies something a bit different. "Frontman," to me, has always been a mostly stage-specific term. Who talks to the crowd the most? Who spends the most time at center stage? Who puts on the most visual performance? That, to me, is what a frontman is. In that respect, Chester is definitely the frontman. I do agree that Mike's taken a bit more of that role recently though, particularly with how he's the band's main guy when it comes to doing press.

http://lplive.net/chesterbennington/20091218.php - this page redirects to a REALLY messed up version of the LPL home page for some reason. The date is also out of order on Chester's page, there's a November show listed after it. Fixed by AndOne The page was missing for some reason, thats why it looked so screwed up. Thanks!

Oh, great. That probably means this'll be one of those shows that they try to keep secret and won't make an official announcement about, and subsequently any information about the show is going to be a pain in the ass to find. I hope someone from LPL wins just for the sheer fact that we might not get any information about this show otherwise.

Okay...the studio version of this song is in G, Linkin Park's live version is in Eb, Chester did it in D at the Australian LPU Summit, and now this version is in C. Holy key change overload, Batman! I wish Chester would find one key for this song that works best for him, and stick with it.