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They use some of the same "alternate" voice samples at the beginning, but no, they are definitely not identical.

The drums on Madison are programmed, Mike just used a more "standard" drum sound than what he uses when he programs his hip-hop beats. It wouldn't have been a seed for MTM though, as LP didn't really start work on MTM until some point in '06 due to their conflicts with Warner. I think if any of those tracks were things that were being considered for the next LP album, they would've been kept under wraps instead of being thrown in as part of the VMA soundtrack.

It's Scott before he shaved off all his hair.

Most likely not Pictureboard, as Mike was asked about it in one of the LPU chats and said he didn't remember much about the song, other than "the part they showed in the video was probably the only good part." Mike's talked about Pictureboad in the past, so if it was the same song, I don't see why he wouldn't have mentioned it by name.

Been on a bit of a DBS kick the last few days, forgot how many great songs there are on the album. Fire, Too Late, Into You, End of the World, and Walking in Circles are all standout tracks to me.

MTM certainly had more variation in the different versions of songs, I was just speaking in terms of the overall number of songs they've played. Adding in the new album tracks may make it seem skewed, but then again, they played all 12 MTM songs at some point during that album's touring cycle as well, and the setlists were roughly the same length-wise, so the difference should be negligible. On the MTM cycle, they tended to do more "Set A-Set B-Set C" type rotating, but on this cycle, they seem a lot more keen on swapping individual songs in and out of their various setlists, so I'd say they're switching it up more, song-wise, than they ever have. It certainly wouldn't hurt to re-work some of the intros/outros that they've been playing to death for the last few years though. *Edit* I can even do the math and figure out how many songs they've played on the last two cycles, accounting for both songs alone and varying versions of songs, because I'm a little curious what the exact numbers are myself. I'll post my findings sometime tomorrow.

Yeah, this is something that could easily be recreated using the multitrack files. Sounds like all they did was cut out the guitar solo and paste the chorus vocals in place of the bridge ones. 99.9% sure this is fake.

I think I've said this before, but I'll say it again: I can't help but laugh my ass off at the amount of bitching about setlist variety on this touring cycle, when LP has played a greater number of different songs on this touring cycle than they have on any other. Oh well, they'll get around to playing Blackout at some point in Asia, and all the bitching will cease at that point and their show will instantly have the "best setlist ever" again.

As someone who raises funds for non-profit organizations for a living, I feel the need to clarify this misconception: People who raised the $500 for the tickets didn't technically "pay $500" for them. It's just like when you see a pledge drive on your local PBS station and they're all like "donate at the $120 level and you'll receive this Celtic Thunder CD as a thank-you gift!" The key phrase there is "thank-you gift," as no brand-new CD in the world is actually worth $120 (plus if the CD actually cost $120, the organization wouldn't be making any profit from your donation!). Offering thank-you gifts at certain levels just gives people more incentive to give more money. And since donations to charitable organizations like PBS and Music For Relief are tax-deductible (at least in the U.S.), you can write them off on your tax returns and get money back at the end of the year, but you can't include the value of any gifts you received for doing so. If you give $120 to PBS and get that CD, they'll send you an invoice that tells you what the fair market value of the CD is, so when you put it down on your tax return, instead of writing it off for $120, it'll be $120 minus the fair market value of the CD (which will probably be $14.95 or something like that). I'm sure that people who raised money for MFR and got tickets will receive similar information on what the fair market value of the tickets are, and it'll be quite a bit less than $500. Again, if that's what the tickets really cost, your $500 would go entirely toward the overhead cost of the tickets, as opposed to going to relief efforts in Japan.

I'm predicting that this show will open with The Requiem and include Blackout, as well as WJ&L into Iridescent. Probably just a slightly modified version of one of the other Europe setlists, like the Vegas show was.

They clearly say at the beginning of the post that that's what they WANT to be played. Show hasn't even started yet.

Mike's already said they don't plan on playing Rolling in the Deep again. Blackout is the only one of those songs that stands a realistic chance. Figure.09, By Myself, and QWERTY most likely will never be played again at any point, and With You only has a small chance because it seems like the band regularly uses that song as an example when they talk about songs they haven't played in a while. I doubt they do, that song was easily one of Chester's worst during live performances. Brad usually wasn't particularly good at the solo either.

You do realize that's not Phoenix's official website, right? In addition to Phoenix's presence in the picture (his first show back with the band wasn't until November of 2000), they're also signing a Hybrid Theory album cover in that picture. Hybrid Theory didn't come out until 3 months after that show took place. 100% not the Orlando show.

Okay, seriously? You've been around here for a long time, and I know you used to be capable of making intelligent posts. What the fuck happened? It's ONE show. No more. Ryan clearly says so (and that's IF this show even happens - stuff relating to Julien-K/DBS, particularly stuff that Ryan talks about happening, is notoriously tentative/subject to change). They'll probably rehearse for a day or two, play the show, and then Chester will go right back into the studio and work on the LP album some more. OMG U GUISE 3 DAYS WITHOUT CHESTER IS TOTALLY GONNA DELAY THE ALBUM FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS.

If Oh No dated from the Xero days, Mark Wakefield would have a songwriting credit on Points of Authority. I think the lack of a date on that track is just a space-saving measure on the CD case, lol. It's probably from 1999, around the same time Sad on LPU9 was recorded.

I'm not getting my hopes up, haha.

From what I've heard, Cheez is a total douchebag who threatens you with legal action if you attempt to contact him for anything other than business-related matters.

A few more to add: -Did you know that an unreleased recording of "Rhinestone" by Xero (not the same version that'son the Xero demo tape) was featured in episode #20 ("Brothers Keeper") of the TV series The Crow: Stairway to Heaven? (This is recent news, obviously, but I figured it would be a good idea to post it in here so it gets added at some point). -Did you know that the intro sample to "Fuse" by Xero ("Of course, you know what a fuse is. It's a long piece of cord, impregnated with gunpowder. When you strike a match and light it, it burns, fitfully, sputteringly, to its end...at which there is a little surprise.") was taken from a record called "Chilling, Thrilling Sounds of the Haunted House" that was released on Disneyland records? Proof/more info: and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling,_Thr...e_Haunted_House -Did you know that "RNW@Y" uses a sample of "Nursery Rhyme/Breather" by Unkle? More precisely, 818 is one of the area codes for the San Fernando Valley area, which is where LP is from. That's also the origin of the line "testing the 818th battalion" in Stick N' Move. As far as being a band name, I find it much more likely that Brad's either joking or just doesn't have the greatest memory, because every other documentation of the band's history suggests that Chester joined Xero, who then changed their name to Hybrid Theory. "Xero 818" might be a proposed band name that they never ended up using or something like that.

Definitely not. The Halo 2 soundtrack didn't come out until mid-2004, while the song was a 2002 demo. It might have been named after the Halo series, as the band were big fans of the first game, but Halo 2 was still a couple years away from being released when the band recorded the song. That's Chester's own blood, I forget the exact details of the story but a couple days before the show, he accidentally locked himself out of his house and had to break a window to get back in, and he cut himself up pretty bad in the process and needed some stitches. He wore the blood-stained shirt at the BOW show because he thought it looked cool, I guess.

"A-one, a two-hoo, a-three...*CRUNCH* I'VE GIVEN UPPPPPPP"

It'd also be interesting to find out the story behind how Xero ended up being featured on this show. As unknown as they were at the time, they either had to know somebody who worked on the show, or someone who worked on the show had to have been a REALLY early fan of their music.

This revelation brings up an oft-asked question, but it bears repeating: How much material did Xero actually record that hasn't seen the light of day? Coal came completely out of nowhere when it showed up on LPUX, Chester's confirmed that one of the first demos he sang on was an instrumental version of A Place for My Head that Xero had already recorded, now there's this alternate version of Rhinestone that didn't appear on the demo tape, and given that Pictureboard was registered on BMI's song catalog, it's pretty safe to assume that was recorded at some point as well.

"Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix!" As far as I know, no, that song was never recorded. Same goes for Beer and a Cigarette (I'm guessing you found the song by Hanoi Rocks with the same title, not the same track though).

WOW. I assumed for ages that this was fake information, given that Xero wasn't actually in the credits for any of the episodes from the series. And that's definitely a different version of Rhinestone too, still with Mark on vocals, but the production is a lot more refined, sounds like some of Mike's lyrics are a bit different too. Best first post in LPL history, lol.

I try to use this exact phrase to reassure myself every time I read one of your posts.