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And now we can identify the track The second I pressed play on 'Homecoming' and heard the very beginning, I knew I had heard it before. Bam. So what's in the Power The World video is part of 'Homecoming' (or a demo/remix of it) and a remix of 'Divided'.

I think COG is coming.

Well I really hope there are track notes from Shinoda in the CD like last time My thoughts: Homecoming: Sounds great. Awesome song here, this is quality. One of the best songs LP has left incomplete (from what we've heard) in my opinion. And uhh...PHOENIX. Bass sounds fantastic. POA: Only difference is pre-chorus in verse 2 right? Otherwise the rest is in that WB Sampler demo. This version sounds like a better quality though if that makes sense...but this is my favorite POA demo anyway because of the "sink or swim" bridge. Definitely a fan favorite demo. Would have rather had like a Don't Stay or Lying From You demo since we've had POA on the LPU CDs before but it's cool. Clarity: Loud bass here....glad to see Phoenix was audible on MTM demos. But definitely one of the most boring LPU CD demo songs we've gotten. I like it way better than Divided though (LPUX) but still nothing special. Asbestos: Holy shit. So this is what the Given Up demo sounds like haha. No way this turned out to be another song, this has Given Up written all over it. Shinoda rapping sounds fucking great. A++++. Someone mash this up with the Given Up bridge and it'd be filthy. Damn, I wish we had a version of this with Chester going apeshit on it. I would imagine this transformed into 21 Stitches...if it isn't Given Up then I will be very surprised. "So the girls tell the boys they better fuckin' run away" - sick. Shinoda jamming big. Bunker: Good song for an LPU CD. Instrumental beat demo, I like it. Sounds like this was just a legit instrumental track without vocals intended for it. First scratch from Joe I've heard from anything 2005-2008 by LP I think LOL...I remember he was nonexistent on MTM. So Far Away: Guitar instantly reminded me of the end of Pale (LPUX). Wow, a very early Shinoda singing song. I thought he didn't sing a single thing until after HT/Meteora for some reason. Very interesting look into the old LP. Blue, Slip and So Far Away definitely have grunge influences in them and they are a great look into a phase the band went through at the time. Joe all over the middle of the song too. Chester on backing vocals? Or just multiple Shinoda layers of vocals? I'd be interested in reading Mike's notes on this song. Very possible the only Chester here is the very last line in the song. Good selection for the LPU CD. Wow, now I'm really wanting more So Far Away/Blue/Slip sounding demos. Pepper: This definitely sounds similar to the Soundtrack, Program and Broken Foot demos on LPU11. I like how LP goes through these different sounds, but so many of their "sounds" you can't hear on the albums. You have this grungy shit in 1998, you have the polished jamming Hybrid Theory full of nu-metal ROCK, you have these sample-full NASTY guitar jams that have like very soft guitar then EXPLOSIONS of filthy jams right before the Meteora album drops, then with Meteora you get HT 2.0 with some experimentation with more samples (different than that style they had right before Meteora for sure). Then MTM they soften out a lot, ATS they go electronica, LT they go to yet another style, etc. I really like the insight the demos give us. This, Soundtrack, Program and Broken Foot are all very cool. I wonder if any of those songs turned out to be demos for the "sophomore album" they scrapped before they did Meteora? Because the style is different than the style they had on Meteora for sure. Meteora still has the samples and all and some heavy guitar but these 4 songs are definitely different. Debris: Rapping from the MTM era. Rick says sing where you should rap, rap where you should sing (MTM era)....this explains the chorus. Sounds like Mike made this demo all himself...maybe it's left over from the FM era too? Lyrics are very demo-ish haha. I'm more interested in what year this is from - 2005 or 2006. Ominous: Yep here we go with another pre-Meteora "style" song. This one has a little bit more experimentation in the first verse but that heavy guitar is there for sure. I don't really understand why the 2002 demos for Meteora sound so different than the album tracks when everything was made in such close proximity to each other (the songs). Did Don Gilmore force them to polish the shit up way more for what made Meteora? Forgotten: Pretty sure we have this one already? Am I wrong? ---- Overall thoughts: Good LPU CD. Asbestos and Homecoming stick out to me as very good tracks. A bit bummed the songs we got demos of that we already had (POA and Forgotten) are so similar to what we had before but hey that's 8/10 new so still that's a great job by the LPU. How does it rank in comparison to previous LPU demo CDs? Well LPU9 was first and of course that's my favorite...I mean how can you beat Across The Line? Haha. That CD was so surprising to us all and so front-to-back balls to the wall epic I don't think you can come out with an LPU CD better than that. A-Six is fucking FILTHY, Faint jams, Figure.09 demo has the best screams we've ever heard from Chester on a song (LOL at how much that F09 demo destroys LIES GREED MISERY, haha), Fear/Drawing/Drum Song are all A++++ demos, Across The Line is one of my all time favorite LP songs, and the 2 short demos are cool as filler songs since we didn't have them. So 12/10 on that CD release...still listen to it all the time and JAM. LPUX. Was not a big fan of this one. What We Don't Know is a fucking fantastic b-side for Minutes To Midnight and I am very surprised Warner didn't want to release this on a single in Europe for like What I've Done or something. Or an iTunes b-side. Great track. And Pale was very surprising...the best "building up energy-wise" song LP has released. Halo and Coal were cool but Unfortunate, Divided, Oh No, and WID didn't do much for me. Pretend To Be was released before the CD so that kind of killed it but it's a cool track. 6/10, if that. WWDK and Pale really brought the score up on this one lol. After the epic-ness that was LPU9, LPUX let me down a lot, but that's just my opinion. LPU11. I like this one 100x more than LPUX. Slip and Blue are really big releases for them in terms of tossing FULL Hybrid Theory-era demos on there...never thought that would happen. I think that makes Meteora the only album we don't have a full "extra" song from. Blue - damn, I really love Shinoda's rapping. The Meteora demos really jammed...Broken Foot Jesus Christ some of the heaviest LP instrumental stuff I've heard. I really wish they'd take the Faint outro and just cover Broken Foot after the last line of Faint, lol...that'd make one hell of an outro and the songs are so similar that it'd fit perfectly. Sounds like something Matt Bellamy would do. But Esaul - fuck yeah, finally getting the Frat Party (live) version from the studio - best lyrics APFMH has ever had in my opinion. And otherwise the other tracks carried their weight very well, the only real dud being Yo in my opinion but I'm glad we got it because we had "Brad's Yo" as a ringtone before that so having the full version is cool. 9/10. "Electric neck twitch", yo, and "Aztec moon". LPU12. Well I like the heavier LP material even though I do enjoy SOTD/LOATR sometimes so Homecoming and Asbestos do wonders for me. Asbestos, damn. Ominous and Pepper are good additions/continuations to what LPU11 had from Meteora. Hope we can get a full Meteora b-side song with vocals one of these days to hear what it'd sound like. It seems like the band is holding those back perhaps? lol. Like that "thoughts that take away my pride" demo? So Far Away is cool. I feel like LPU11 tops this one out though. POA, Forgotten, Clarity, and weirdly enough Debris don't do much for me. Bunker is good. 7/10 I guess. Maybe it'll increase if Shinoda writes about them in the booklet for the CD. I feel like there's too much Minutes To Midnight on the CD...I am surprised there's not one single thing from A Thousand Suns or even LIVING THINGS on it. Future LPU CDs? Would be nice to end all the hype around Pictureboard one day...I'd like to hear it since Shinoda mentioned it so long ago and they played it live. I am shocked Bruiser was not on the LPU12 CD too...I guess we'll have to try really hard to get it soon. I'd like to hear one Meteora-era song with vocals that was a legit finished track (like What We Don't Know, Across The Line, Blackbirds, etc). I'm sure ATS/LT have those too...an ATS one would be cool but I'd really like to hear a Meteora one. Otherwise I'm game for whatever else Shinoda has up his sleeve. A Lying From You demo would be cool or WTCFM demo. Who knows. Top 5 favorite LPU CD demos: Across The Line, What We Don't Know, A-Six, Blue, Asbestos.

I find it weird there is nothing from ATS or LT on the CD, like no demos of released songs like WTCFM or not 1 full bside that didn't make either CD or something.

Na man let's allow full discussion! Who cares lol, it's a CD

Oh, what's different? I didn't know that.

I'd say Divided is an MTM demo, yeah. They originally were going to release a CD in 2005, then 2006, and then MTM came in 07, but those 2005 CD sessions probably produced Divided. I'm interested in what other songs are from that era (2005). That was also the year they tried to record a song in 1 day for the Machine Shop Mixtape they were putting out. I asked in an LPU chat what happened to that song and they said it was a disaster trying to make a full song in one day. I've always wondered if Divided was that song, but it's most likely not lol. LP does give us what we are looking for though - fans wanted TLTGYA/BTH demos on LPU9...Shinoda says done and throws them right on....he wants LP staff to check online and see what demos we have before they put them on the CDs (like checking what APFMH demos we have so the Esaul on LPU11 is one we DO NOT have). Pretty cool. The only thing I don't understand is the WID Shinoda remix on LPU11....they knew we already had that. Perhaps they were rushed to replace another song at the last minute or something. In response to "writing on the road after MTM": LP confirmed in 2008 they were writing on the road...Mike visited that studio in Prague on the summer European tour and did some writing. But it's interesting Pretend To Be has a 2008 date....wonder why they touched it up after MTM unless it was just for the LPU CD, which is definitely possible. Across The Line, Sad and Faint were edited/touched up for the LPU 9 CD so it's entirely possible the Pretend To Be "finishing" they did in 2008 was just some touching up for the fan club CD. I disagree with this only because they brought back Reading My Eyes in 2006 and almost two years later absolutely randomly in Europe in 2008. Totally blows they cut it from the Milton Keynes setlist though, so your point is semi valid with RME. But otherwise I guess. You need to hear Bruiser then, lol. That might be the only ATS-era demo out there right now right? Besides the Robot Boy alt vocal track.

I think the LT songs sound fine except LGM, which should be permanently dropped lol...still in shock how the band could release a song like that. But I guess you don't have to like every song. Wasn't a fan of that one at any of the shows I saw it at. BID with an intro would be good, IMR sounds great, VICTIMIZED/QWERTY is badass, and LITE sounds good. Hopefully they'll play POWERLESS soon and drop Numb or something. Or In The End. Or New Divide.

Yeah they stream it all every year. Why laugh at Bush? Saw them 3x last year and I was impressed.

I explained it here: http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=8973 It was so last minute and rushed (we only heard like 90~ seconds of it) that no one thought to do it.

https://twitter.com/heydudeimadam/status/269159306870550529

Quit Julien-K to become closer to God? lol

Let's do it.

It's just....how would you get the hype going? We have demos on the LPU9, LPUX, LPU11 and LPU12 CDs plus older demos on the other LPU CDs. Basically I think a lot of fans would see it as just" oh it's just another instrumental and we have a ton of those" and they wouldn't go for it. Don't get me wrong, the LPU CDs are fucking awesome and I love them and hope they continue forever but in this sense I think getting Bruiser would be harder because of the fact we have so many unreleased songs now lol. Face it, only really legit hardcore fans probably would donate to get it. It'd take a combination of a whole lot of fansites and then you have the legality of it all. Don't really know if it could be possible - that's a lot of $. I think we should give it another few months before we decide to try something unique to get it. It's shocking that it hasn't leaked at all. Wish we would have asked the person at the Summit who won it to get it for us.

I think so. I thought about taking donations to get it but I wouldn't know what to do with the laptop. Maybe give it away in a raffle to everyone that donates. Each dollar gets you a raffle ticket, lol. Who knows. Sounds complicated. http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopi...=eep&~ck=mn

The confirmed songs from the Xero era are Stick N Move, Fuse, Reading My Eyes, Rhinestone, Coal, and Pictureboard. Plus Mike said there was a version of Esaul from this time period. Since Rhinestone later became Forgotten, Wakefield is credited on Forgotten and Frgt10. He is also credited on A Place For My Head and Plc 4 Mie Haed because of Esaul coming together as a Xero track initially and later being reworked into Esaul by Hybrid Theory. He's credited on Runaway and Rnw y because Stick N Move later was transformed into Runaway. He is NOT credited on Coal because it is an instrumental song and he never recorded vocals for it (as far as we know) so it probably was just a track by Joe and Mike. Chester and Phoenix (and Brad and Rob) are credited on it because it was released under the band name Linkin Park so all 6 members get credit for it. Wakefield also has a listing in the BMI database for Reading My Eyes since LP released it on LPU 6 even though Chester sang on it live. While a version of Pictureboard might exist with Wakefield on it (I would think there is at least one version with him on it that Shinoda still has), the version that is registered in the BMI database is a version that I'm guessing Chester recorded vocals for early on in the Hybrid Theory sessions (maybe 1999 or something). I don't think they'd release a song at this point with Wakefield on vocals so he is credited probably because he originally recorded vocals for the track when it was a Xero song. I find it interesting Slip and Blue didn't credit Wakefield, which means both of those songs (as well as everything from the Hybrid Theory EP and all those related tracks) were composed after Wakefield had left the band completely and were Hybrid Theory band songs and not Xero-related at all (unless Shinoda/Hahn had raw demos of a few of them and Wakefield didn't touch any).

Good observation. I wonder what two songs are on there that we already have. Now taking guesses Closest winner gets a prize lol

The first part of the LPU Summit is in the lobby of the venue where you can do a lot of stuff including a picture with a guitar, enter a raffle, draw on the art wall, etc and at the Camden Summit they had a table for the Dell OpenLabs software with an OpenLabs guy there to demo it for you. I totally forgot about it until we were lining up to go on our tours so I went over with Preston, Jonas, Dmitry, Nick, Eric and a few others to the OpenLabs demo and asked the guy about it. He showed me the software and I got him to play "Bruiser" for us. He played the first minute to minute and a half for us. It is a full song, no vocals, but there are multitracks for it on the software. By that I mean it's not an instrumental like Session or Cure For The Itch but I mean it's a full song just without the vocals, like a regular song instrumental. It has a sound similar to Wretches & Kings in the sense that there's a repetitive sample over a beat, but it sounds good. Everyone that was with me was impressed - not one person said they disliked it. We were in such a rush and it was so last minute that I decided to go over there that no one thought to pull out a camera or phone to record it. They raffled off a laptop with the software on it but we stupidly and mistakenly forgot to find the winner and ask if they could get the song to us. Afterward we thought somehow someone would eventually get it and upload it but here we are 3 months later with no song LOL. We should have tried to record it or something to get the hype going online for someone to buy it. Oh well. Hopefully someone buys the software and uploads the tracks.

Where the hell is Bruiser at, lol, maybe we should launch a contest with whoever finds it first gets some unreleased stuff in the LPLive vault

Wonder if Pictureboard finally comes out or not.

With the 12th edition of the LP Underground rumored to go live any day, speculations are high as to what the next LPU CD will contain. Fans have been quite pleased with LPU 9, LPUX and LPU 11 containing demos of unreleased (and released) Linkin Park songs so needless to say the online community is anxious to see what the 12th CD will have on it! LPLive member Qwerty18 has posted possible track titles for the album: "The BMI page which list all of the songs written by Mike has been updated http://repertoire.bmi.com 8 new songs titles have been added: Asbestos, Bunker, Clarity, Debris, Homecoming, Ominous, Pepper, and So Far Away. BMI is an American organization for the protection of copyright. These songs are written by Linkin Park. This source is 100% reliable, so those are likely to be the songs which will appear on LPU12. Bunker and Clarity are Minutes To Midnight demo titles which appear in the Making of MTM (when Brad is showing some demos titles). I don't know about the others." That would be 8 song titles listed above. If the CD contains 10 tracks, maybe two are demos of songs we have already? The highly sought after song "Pictureboard" also has a BMI listing that has been up for several years now, so it's unlikely it will appear on LPU 12, but anything is possible. Thoughts? EDIT: It is important to note that there currently is no BMI entry for the demo song "Bruiser" which can only be found on the Dell OpenLabs software. Currently no fans have obtained the song....maybe we should get started! LPU 12 HAS LAUNCHED! http://lpunderground.com/news/111011 "We are excited to announce that we have launched the 12th year of the LP Underground! The $25 LPU Pass includes:* Annual membership to the LPU Membership laminate and lanyard Access to the newly redesigned LPUnderground.com Opportunities for Meet & Greets with Linkin Park Early entry at Linkin Park shows Access to pre-sale tickets $5 credit to the LPU store The $60 Plus Pass includes:* ALL of the LPU Pass benefits PLUS LPU merchandise package including: T-shirt Water bottle Guitar pick Carabiner key chain Access to special LPU events including LPU Summits FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY, the LPU12 CD featurning 10 never before released Linkin Park demos is available for just $1 when you purchase an LPU12 membership. As always, worldwide shipping is FREE. In addition, if you join LPU12 between now at December 1, you will be entered to win a guaranteed meet & greet with Linkin Park at a future show. 2 runner ups will receive a Linkin Park prize pack.** Take advantage of these special offerings now. Join LPU12 today. *Some restrictions apply. Offer subject to change and based on availability **Subject to official rules" LPUnderground 12 CD Tracklisting: (Available for digital download HERE) 01 Homecoming (Minutes to Midnight Demo) 02 Points of Authority (Demo) 03 Clarity (Minutes to Midnight Demo) 04 Asbestos (Minutes to Midnight Demo) 05 Bunker (Minutes to Midnight Demo) 06 So Far Away (Unreleased 1998) 07 Pepper (Meteora Demo) 08 Debris (Minutes to Midnight Demo) 09 Ominous (Meteora Demo) 10 Forgotten (Demo) Thoughts? Who's renewing their membership or joining? Has anyone heard the CD?

What show was better? Can you take a look at our Summit soundcheck setlist and see if it is right? http://lplive.net/shows/20121107.php I'm not sure if we got all the songs listed or not.

Thanks! Wow Bucharest had one of the best setlists all year - it had all of the good songs at one show. With You, Runaway, Papercut, Blackout, A Place For My Head, etc.