Justin

I got that feeling too, like they went to plan B after the info started leaking. It's all good, though. It was a really cool way to get the buzz going before the huge announcement today.

I hate to keep bringing up The Beatles lol but I only remember this because I was following all the pre-order stuff. What they did during the pre-order phase for their anniversary releases was to release the album version of a song, remastered, and a demo of that song. For example, when they announced Abbey Road pre-orders, they released Something (remastered), and an early take of that same song. So for LP, if they did have HT remastered, the equivalent would be like if they announced pre-orders and released the album version of APFMH (remastered) and Esaul. That would be great, and my point is that there's precedent for bands doing that.

I would love it to be Esaul, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it were a demo of ITE or Crawling.

This release would still be happening for sure.

To be fair, Mike has had question redemptions closed since before this promotional campaign even started. He was just so backed up that he still is working his way through them.

Amazing post. Thanks for that! Definitely agree that this needed its own post. I hope this isn't a red herring lol because this plot twist is just too perfect. Also I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw the parallel to Carnival of Light! Their poor fanbase has been waiting for 52 years and counting lol

WE WILL THE SONG PICTUREBOARD!!!

The fact that Mark and the band are on good terms leads me to think they have no reason to exclude him/ It's not like there's any kind of bad blood that would make it awkward. It's a celebration of HT, but the foundations of HT were laid with Xero. Any Xero songs that weren't re-recorded with Chester shouldn't be excluded arbitrarily. Mark left, which we can all be thankful for since his departure opened the door for Chester to come in and take LP to unimaginable heights.

4P7LYE caps sensitive.It worked for me a few minutes ago.

Yeah, I took the "Just make sure you keep these secure" line to be a reference to Mike revealing it way too early lol

I love how the band took Mike's accidental slip on his stream and made it part of the hype for HT 20. "Mike, I’m going to have Ryan send everything over for you to review. Just make sure you keep these secure." 😂

I'm honestly already hyped at just the thought of ATS 20. Amazing album, and the imagery of the ATS era was really cool. It will make any box sets look amazing. Also, no, I can't imagine this whole thing is leading up to just HT remastered with a few bonus tracks lol.

You’ve been asking questions like this for the entire thread. We don’t know lol. That’s the whole point of the band doing it this way. We know the same info as you do, and all of that info is in here. I promise you, as soon as finding out solid details is possible, it will be posted here immediately.

Honestly, I would probably laugh before the disappointment actually sunk in.

He was explicitly talking about Friendly Fire when he said that. Somebody asked him to play it during the stream, and he laughed it off by saying something like "Yeah right, let's just debut a brand new Linkin Park song with Chester's vocals on a Twitch stream," and then wound up saying "You guys are going to have to wait literally years to hear that stuff".

I've beaten solitaire on their site twice now. I'm at work, and bored, and that game really is an excellent time waster. Thanks LP! Lol

Most of these instrumentals are not the type of music he would normally make, and he obviously isn’t putting 100% into them either way. He makes them from scratch in 3 hours and just polishes them up a little bit before releasing them. Plus, it’s just Dropped Frames. Mike literally said himself he’s only releasing these so that the people who have been watching the streams can have them, and he recommended that they be used as background music. These are not serious album releases. These are very niche releases.

I paid about $90 for the Super Deluxe 50th anniversary release for Abbey Road. It comes with a hardback book, a remastered CD, 2 CD's of demos/outtakes, and a Blu-Ray with the remastered audio I got the 50th anniversary Sgt. Pepper's release for around $130. Hardback book, remastered CD, 2 CD's of demos/outtakes, CD with original mono mix, Blu-Ray with remastered audio and making of documentary, and 2 posters.

Yes. That's what I was getting at in my earlier post in this thread lol. I don't think he would be writing a book to let us all know that he definitely wanted Mike out of the band or restricted to just keyboards. Plus the stuff with Chester basically telling him to fuck off after being told "You should be the star", him wanting Joe to wear a lab coat on stage, him showing the ITE demo to another rapper and then telling the band "This guy didn't like it, you should change the whole song". It doesn't sound like the band and he are on great terms, so the fact that he's writing a book about them at all is weird enough. I would probably check it out and read it, but any completely outlandish claims I would take with a grain of salt.

Agreed 1000%. I wouldn't even consider dropping $500 (or anything in that neighborhood) for most bands, but for HT 20? I'm down.

Watch him claim the total opposite of everything we've heard about him so far lol. I can see it now: "The guys all came to me privately and said "We want Mike gone", but I told them that wouldn't be smart. I knew they had something special with the interplay between Mike and Chester's vocals."

Will definitely be interesting considering LP/Jeff Blue's relationship, or lack thereof.

So I texted grandson through his Community app number about this song, and he responded! The exchange was as follows: Me: riptide is great!! I would be very interested to know what role Mike Shinoda played in the creation of this song. Was it just production, or was he a part of the lyric writing process on this one as well? grandson: Good question. Well first off it was at his studio, with him encouraging us to dig deeper and make something we really like...I had written the guitar and lyrics but hadn't actually put them together, who knows if that would've happened without him. Beyond that he helped us figure out the structure of the song like how long each section should be, gave his thoughts on production and then some mix notes at the end.

That's not really a fantasy. There is absolutely precedent for those kinds of releases. I would love a hardcover book with photos of lyric sheets/studio notes and facts about each song's writing and recording process. The Beatles did that for 3 of their albums and it's fascinating. HT is on that level.

Awesome stuff. I like them all. I will say I'm not as big a fan of Isolation Bird or Party Meow as most of the regulars in the Twitch chat lol, but I really like Crystalina and Channeling, Pt. 2!