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Ok guys, I tried. Guess there are no news to be had. PS: AIM was the shit and thx Coizu for the links. 88% human.

Thanks for the info/confirmation, random staff person. And sorry for being critical with Bense, but my point still stands. It felt like a non-coherent AI rambling, I guess everyone can follow that. I'm curious to get a fresh/unknown perspective on the conflict between SOB and Mike. It's been more than a week now and still nothing. I thought a lot about skatevideos and nostalgia, though. @Bense Sorry, if our skepticism turned you away. Have a good time on here and feel free to drop your knowledge on anything you see fit. We all appreciate it! Greetings from an almost 40 year old dude ;).

I was never a fan of the excessive fixing of mistakes/problems. It's a live performance, things happen. On one hand they probably wanted to give fans the best experience of the show they attended. On the other hand it felt super fake to me to not own up. People were at those shows, they witnessed the mistakes and whatnot.

Back in July/August 2007 they didn't fix every (any?) mistake on them. Don't know they exact show but there was one time where something went wrong and the samples on SOTD didn't work. The result was a kind of stripped down version of the song which had a great vibe to it. Doesn't answer your question 100% but I never heard anyone talk about that, so I thought I drop it for once.

Honestly? I'm still not convinced that he is a real person :D. It's been days and multiple posts and we still didn't get any new insights. Just ramblings of old times. It sucks that we live in an age where we have to consider AI-made stuff for everything but hey. So... @Bense Could you please stop rambling and get to the point?

Haha, yeah. We got a lot of rambly words but nothing about that at all.

But the person didn't really provide anything to the argument on why Mike and Tak don't talk to each other or are pissed or whatever :D. It starts like they know something that wasn't mentioned so far and then rambles on without any new context or am I missing something?

Honestly, not a fan of this idea. Getting the show, yeah, of course. But we don't need ANOTHER cashgrabby thing. The band has been inactive for almost 7 years by now. During this time we got one live album and three major high-priced releases. We fans spent so much money the last couple of years that a release of this show for free would be a nice gesture (if it would happen), tbh. It's cool to live off one's legacy, which is well deserved. But don't overdo it. I know, I'm probably in the minority on this one, but hey

Oh, my bad, sorry! Thanks for clarifying. But I don't get it, still :D.

If you mean "Numb" and ITE: No, not really? Sure, like pretty much every LP song back then they have drums, guitars, bass and some electronical elements but both songs differ more than they are similar. Aside from the big power chord driven chorus almost every other element is different. No one compared these two songs with one another back then or put them in direct relation and it's easy to hear why.

Totally agree. This song gave me modern Meteora vibes, too, when it came out. It's the lyrics and vocal delivery that doesn't do it for me.

True. GATS to me is like THE song from THP. it encapsulates everything this album set out to be and was an effective first single for us fans. Or to put it differently: It is more "visceral" than FM. But yeah, FM was more succesful. I guess we can agree that we are glad that UIG was notchosen over these two

"QWERTY" was totally unnecessary on this release. It wasn't some unreleased b-side and on no official album. They should have included GATS instead and waited with "QWERTY" for MTM20 where it belongs. I mean, will they exclude it from MTM20 now? It was such a major song during the pre-release phase when everyone thought it might be on the album.

Just following all of this from afar since I don't care about this release. But I'm happy that it happened on this and not on M20. In a day and age where physical releases are declining it sure sucks to have something that messy.

If there is truth to that we should first see who they found and how it works before getting pitchforks out. A female lead has the potential to make LP interesting again. Something that a sole substitute can't really provide. I said it some time ago but I'm all for it and feel that this would be the best case for a continuation of the band.

Well, not necessarily. Yeah, someone from within the band knows a lot more from direct experience, obviously. But there is always the risk (especially with Linkin Park) of not mentioning crucial things. That's why I enjoyed Jeff Blue's book so much because he wrote about things that you would never hear directly from the band. Sure, there might be omissions and stuff there, too. But his account of how HT came to be was so refreshing because it was more detailed and showed band members in a new light.

Needs to be a six part Netflix kind of thing. Waiting for that for years.

Kudos for posting a link

I still think it's an epic song with an atmospheric and intense vibe. The breakdown is Metallica-esque and it escalates further and further until it collapses. Love it.

Unless you are keen on having the LP family from certain countries cursing your name, of course

I don't get it, either. It's almost compulsive. Why does he feel the need to constantly put stuff on Genius? Especially after what happened during M20...

Just going by the working title I'd say it's pretty safe to say that "Harmonic Song" is PMA because its verses are literally build upon flagelatte harmonics (same guitar technique as in ITE).

I just went through this thread again and it's insane what you discovered about this song during that time. More so your cover is damn close to "Lost" which is amazing in hindsight considering what you had to work with.

Guys, it will be a lot of songs that we've known since forever and 1 (or MAYBE more) unreleased song(s). The hype level feels a bit over the top to be honest. Like, with M20 or HT20 we had at least a lot of possibilities. I don't quite get it. But that's ok of course because you all are getting so hyped up. Good for you!