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The last sentence was uncalled for. Sure, we could argue all day long what is "worse", but enough people (even on here) showed a severe lack of knowledge about what Scientology even is, what it does and (crucially) what it believes in. I find it absolutely ok to be concerned about this connection. But you seem to underestimate the impact this whole thing has on the vast amount of sympathizers and more or less casual fans of the band (not even to mention general music fans). I shied away from comment sections, but whenever I dove in, the sentiment was "I'm done with this band". There is a substantial amount of backlash happening and it's fine if you or other people just want to give this a pass, you do you. Though, the more public awareness of "LP and their new singer" is tainted by this for now and there is a good chance that this connection will remain. I hope they'll find a way to navigate it all. Guess we'll (hopefully) see.

To be fair, this was because of his White Power thing of which there were videos. This is not tolerable in Germany. But in the US no one (really) cared for that. Sitting out this whole "thing" is not a good idea. The music world outside of the LP bubble will not ignore this and without any form of confirmation/explanation it will forever remain whenever someone talks about LP. Putting your head in the sand simply won't work, I'm afraid. It sucks and is not an easy thing to solve. I hope LP prepared for that beforehand, but so far it doesn't seem like it.

There was some discussion about that in the shoutbox, too and people were/are concerned about the whole thing. But gladly no one from LPL went the extreme route of calling for "cancelation" (aka consequences of actions). Her statement was a good start to clear the air and much needed to not let it gain more traction. Though, the whole thing might (or already has) turn(ed) off some people which is a shame.

Could mean anything, but her Instagram bio reads "In between quotations", which I interpret as being in a transformation process.

Just to write down my 5 cents after a night of sleep. After being away for more than 7 years, after stopping your band activity because of tragedy, after giving us only vague and cryptic answers to where the band stands for all these years, a 100 hour countdown appears on lp.com. Seemingly out of nowhere. There were rumors (and only that) brought in by Jay Gordon and Billboard before. The LPU is getting some kind of makeover, too. Major portions of the music industry and fans, both old, new and forgotten, are showing interest in this countdown, being curious on what comes next for the band that many loved at some point of their life. This is not another cycle like before, it's time for a statement, a glimpse of a future for the band. 100 hours to go until there is some kind of resolution. If not balls to the wall, then at the very least... something. But no, nothing aside from a couple of glitches. I pity these poor souls among us who are now monitoring a potential 100 hour count-up(?) just to find more glitches for an extremely uninteresting "riddle". A riddle that isn't needed with this type of situation. We all can wait for a couple weeks. Of course it could all be for one collaboration song or something in that vein. But, again, it would be the FIRST NEW LP SONG in more than 7 years. To address some points that a couple of never before seen faces on here bring up to defend this: 1. It gives the band more attention: The band HAD all the attention in the world. Other bands felt the need to get out of the way with their stuff because of that 100 hour countdown. They had an immense spotlight on them. If they would've posted something like a small teaser or whatever, people would be talking EVEN more than they do right now. 2. They always do something like this: Of course they do, it's their way of creating buzz and interest in a new output. But this is not JUST another new album cycle, it's not an anniversary (which they made really special with the throwback stuff, even if it was glitchy). It SEEMED like something we waited for more than 7 years. Something huge, a new era, finally! At least something small would have been a start. 3. It's exciting: What exactly is more exciting than before? We still don't REALLY know what will happen just like before, we got nothing new. 4. To those whom it may concern: It is ok when your favorite artist blunders. You don't need to find constructed arguments to defend them. If you genuinely love this and think "hell yeah, what a cool move" then good for you, have fun and enjoy the ride. I will obviously wait and see what comes up, listen to new music whatever. But my point still stands: It was unnecessary to do it that way and dragged out something that could and should have been magical. Everyone have fun staring at a timer.

Honestly, I'm kinda with you concerning your sentiment. Chester will always be the most important part of the Linkin Park I loved and cherished for so long. I probably won't feel even 25% of the hype levels like I used to before 2017. But I also came to terms with the fact that LP is mostly Mike and Brad when it comes to songwriting. So the old myth of LP being 6 guys on the same level is long gone for me. The main architects of LP are still with us and thus I'm curious what they'll come up with in the future. But I also want the rest of the band to be happy and artistically active. I will follow their output and probably enjoy a good lot of it. I'm super intrigued by a possible female lead vocalist and the opportunities which it presents for the band. It will still be Linkin Park for me because of Mike and Brad. Still, I will never feel the same excitement about new stuff by them because it was always Chester that got me hooked.

For the love of god. You gonna get someone killed on here by overhyping stuff. Have mercy, please.

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Ok guys, I tried. Guess there are no news to be had. PS: AIM was the shit and thx Coizu for the links. 88% human.

Thanks for the info/confirmation, random staff person. And sorry for being critical with Bense, but my point still stands. It felt like a non-coherent AI rambling, I guess everyone can follow that. I'm curious to get a fresh/unknown perspective on the conflict between SOB and Mike. It's been more than a week now and still nothing. I thought a lot about skatevideos and nostalgia, though. @Bense Sorry, if our skepticism turned you away. Have a good time on here and feel free to drop your knowledge on anything you see fit. We all appreciate it! Greetings from an almost 40 year old dude ;).

I was never a fan of the excessive fixing of mistakes/problems. It's a live performance, things happen. On one hand they probably wanted to give fans the best experience of the show they attended. On the other hand it felt super fake to me to not own up. People were at those shows, they witnessed the mistakes and whatnot.

Back in July/August 2007 they didn't fix every (any?) mistake on them. Don't know they exact show but there was one time where something went wrong and the samples on SOTD didn't work. The result was a kind of stripped down version of the song which had a great vibe to it. Doesn't answer your question 100% but I never heard anyone talk about that, so I thought I drop it for once.

Honestly? I'm still not convinced that he is a real person :D. It's been days and multiple posts and we still didn't get any new insights. Just ramblings of old times. It sucks that we live in an age where we have to consider AI-made stuff for everything but hey. So... @Bense Could you please stop rambling and get to the point?

Haha, yeah. We got a lot of rambly words but nothing about that at all.

But the person didn't really provide anything to the argument on why Mike and Tak don't talk to each other or are pissed or whatever :D. It starts like they know something that wasn't mentioned so far and then rambles on without any new context or am I missing something?

Honestly, not a fan of this idea. Getting the show, yeah, of course. But we don't need ANOTHER cashgrabby thing. The band has been inactive for almost 7 years by now. During this time we got one live album and three major high-priced releases. We fans spent so much money the last couple of years that a release of this show for free would be a nice gesture (if it would happen), tbh. It's cool to live off one's legacy, which is well deserved. But don't overdo it. I know, I'm probably in the minority on this one, but hey

Oh, my bad, sorry! Thanks for clarifying. But I don't get it, still :D.

If you mean "Numb" and ITE: No, not really? Sure, like pretty much every LP song back then they have drums, guitars, bass and some electronical elements but both songs differ more than they are similar. Aside from the big power chord driven chorus almost every other element is different. No one compared these two songs with one another back then or put them in direct relation and it's easy to hear why.

Totally agree. This song gave me modern Meteora vibes, too, when it came out. It's the lyrics and vocal delivery that doesn't do it for me.

True. GATS to me is like THE song from THP. it encapsulates everything this album set out to be and was an effective first single for us fans. Or to put it differently: It is more "visceral" than FM. But yeah, FM was more succesful. I guess we can agree that we are glad that UIG was notchosen over these two

"QWERTY" was totally unnecessary on this release. It wasn't some unreleased b-side and on no official album. They should have included GATS instead and waited with "QWERTY" for MTM20 where it belongs. I mean, will they exclude it from MTM20 now? It was such a major song during the pre-release phase when everyone thought it might be on the album.

Just following all of this from afar since I don't care about this release. But I'm happy that it happened on this and not on M20. In a day and age where physical releases are declining it sure sucks to have something that messy.

If there is truth to that we should first see who they found and how it works before getting pitchforks out. A female lead has the potential to make LP interesting again. Something that a sole substitute can't really provide. I said it some time ago but I'm all for it and feel that this would be the best case for a continuation of the band.

Well, not necessarily. Yeah, someone from within the band knows a lot more from direct experience, obviously. But there is always the risk (especially with Linkin Park) of not mentioning crucial things. That's why I enjoyed Jeff Blue's book so much because he wrote about things that you would never hear directly from the band. Sure, there might be omissions and stuff there, too. But his account of how HT came to be was so refreshing because it was more detailed and showed band members in a new light.

Needs to be a six part Netflix kind of thing. Waiting for that for years.