[AndOne] Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 This seems pretty lustless compared to the summer sonic performances. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-189489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) I think we should come up with a main list of 'holy grails' that we all collectively want the most, and try to obtain them and decipher how to get them. Edited June 28, 2014 by Geki Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-189490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[AndOne] Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 *bump* There's on more thing about the Ostrick tapes I'd like to add that I think I forgot to mention. What's even more important than the big amount of money that he demands is, that he agrees on whatever we want to do with it. He's just licensing it. I'm not sure about the laws in the US but usually even if the sells it he still holds the copyright. And the last thing we want is to get sued by him. So the only way really would be to get some sort of agreement with him that we can use it for a webcast or something like that. I'd assume he wouldn't allow it to be released for a normal download without asking for a lot more money. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLinkinpark0562x Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 My General "Want" list other than Proshots of LP OTHER than Torrents... 2008 Milton Keynes DSP (I can't really ask for a link because DSPs aren't allowed on here) Live in Texas "Full MP3 rip of the Video show, just cut the silent part as soon as the screen stops to say "Linkin Park: Live in Texas" and at the end, when the crowd noise has finished fading out, just end it there.. LOL" and that's pretty much it... The Holy Grail Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSoul Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 2008 Milton Keynes DSP (I can't really ask for a link because DSPs aren't allowed on here)Google is you friend, that ain't no holy grail whatsoever lol Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 So the only way really would be to get some sort of agreement with him that we can use it for a webcast or something like that. I'd assume he wouldn't allow it to be released for a normal download without asking for a lot more money. after 14 years Ostrick didn't got even one dollar for his tapes, so why he insists on high price? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergSlim Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 after 14 years Ostrick didn't got even one dollar for his tapes, so why he insists on high price? Maybe because the more time passes - the more valuable those tapes get? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Maybe because the more time passes - the more valuable those tapes get?no it's not a bottle of wine lol. this tapes have the same value now same as they had in 2007. So the only way really would be to get some sort of agreement with him that we can use it for a webcast or something like that. I'd assume he wouldn't allow it to be released for a normal download without asking for a lot more money.so he wants more money for "full" rights? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[AndOne] Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 I think the price he's asking for is "normal". Like the same price he'd ask if he licensed it to a TV station for example. They have more funds and it's a lot easier for them to afford of course. More money for the full rights is just my assumption right here based on simple logic but then again I don't know what rights come with the normal price. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 (edited) once and for all, someone needs to talk with him and ask him if the price include the rights and what there's exactly in these tapes. Edited July 4, 2013 by Skipees Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLinkinpark0562x Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Google is you friend, that ain't no holy grail whatsoever lol It's MY Holy Grail, LOL and it's not really anywhere except for LP official bootlegs and I'm not really into money lol Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 MK 2008 DSP and LIT audio are definitely not anything close to a holy grail lol. Doesn't the Ostrick stuff come also with a 30 minute Hybrid Theory performance at a local LA venue? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLinkinpark0562x Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 MK 2008 DSP and LIT audio are definitely not anything close to a holy grail lol. Doesn't the Ostrick stuff come also with a 30 minute Hybrid Theory performance at a local LA venue? Well not to you, but to me they're pretty big Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[AndOne] Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Maybe but even if that is still far away from the "holy grail" definition and the whole point of this discussion. Everyone has a personal wants list but that's something different. Can we please just move on from this? The past showed us that we usually had the best luck with things we didn't know about since those are usually easier to get. There have been a couple of cases where we (the community, not LPL staff) didn't end up getting something because too many people knew about something and just pissed the people off by bugging them. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLinkinpark0562x Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Maybe but even if that is still far away from the "holy grail" definition and the whole point of this discussion. Everyone has a personal wants list but that's something different. Can we please just move on from this? The past showed us that we usually had the best luck with things we didn't know about since those are usually easier to get. Agreed, and I kinda got confused about Holy Grail and want list.......................... Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 (edited) There have been a couple of cases where we (the community, not LPL staff) didn't end up getting something because too many people knew about something and just pissed the people off by bugging them.this is why only one person needs to do it, and in this case it's only about the money anyway. Edited July 4, 2013 by Skipees Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papercutz Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 More live audio from Fort Minor, Bucket Of Weenies, Dead By Sunrise and Camp Freddy would be really nice. We only have 1 or 2 show for some of those. As for Linkin Park stuff, I have pretty much all the stuff I want. Old DSP's are good but I think we have a slim chance of those getting released. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonR24 Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 I really want the Making of MTM: Theater Edition. I thought it was neat. I remember them showing each individual layer of Hands Held High of each band member singing haha. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papercutz Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I really want the Making of MTM: Theater Edition. I thought it was neat. I remember them showing each individual layer of Hands Held High of each band member singing haha. Yes, I have heard about this. Seems very interesting. It's a shame the video was never released on LPU, because they have a huge LPTV library. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-193945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPKode2 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Glasgow, Scotland, SCEE in November 03 Just because I was there and that was my first LP show , but last show in Scotland Also any show from the North American tour in 04, any show from Projekt Revolution in 04 & Summer Sonic shows in 06. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-224153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1996_LP Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Out of interest, would a pre HT/ Xero show actually exist? I mean is there even proof someone actually recorded the band back then? I mean I'd love to see such an early and rare performance but I really doubt something like that would ever surface. If there is a tape of it, it's probably in someone's attic with a bunch of other family videos gathering dust that will never even seen ever again Also, that making of MTM Webster hall version, was it ever broadcast outside America? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-224221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 There exists a show from a July 1997, opening for SOAD. Someone bought the original tape on eBay, that's what I heard Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-224259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1996_LP Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 There exists a show from a July 1997, opening for SOAD. Someone bought the original tape on eBay, that's what I heard Oh wow. And they didn't share it with the community!? How selfish can a person get! Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-224264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 There exists a show from a July 1997, opening for SOAD. Someone bought the original tape on eBay, that's what I heard Xero's first show was in November of 1997 opening for SOAD. But that would be the greatest ''holy grail'' of all if we got that recording, I would literally explode of happiness. As far as the MTM Theater Version, I'm not sure if it was broadcasted outside of the US. The worst part about that is the fact that nobody bothered to record it because at the time nobody knew if it was just going to be the same Making of MTM that came out with the special edition a week later or whatever. Plus a lot of people are afraid to film in theater because of what might happen, however, I'm sure if everyone knew it was going to be that rare and never show again, someone would have filmed it. I don't understand why this particular holy grail is so hard to find. We know Mark Fiore has all that footage and what use is it now in 2014 when the footage dates back to 2006/2007? He could probably give it to us through the LPU library or give it to LPL or something, he probably doesn't know how badly the LP fanbase wants it. I see fans talking about it everywhere, LPU, LPA, LPL, etc. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-224268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[AndOne] Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Out of interest, would a pre HT/ Xero show actually exist? I mean is there even proof someone actually recorded the band back then? I mean I'd love to see such an early and rare performance but I really doubt something like that would ever surface. If there is a tape of it, it's probably in someone's attic with a bunch of other family videos gathering dust that will never even seen ever again There is no first hand evidence. The only evidence there is, is that there's a recording of the SOAD set from this show and that this tape was sold. There's no screenshot or sample that proves it 100%. Maybe someone from the band/management obtained the tape to keep it unreleased, you never know, at least that would be an explanation why it never surfaced again. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9762-what-is-the-holy-grail-now/page/5/#findComment-224270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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