2015.05.23 - Pryor, OK - Rocklahoma

[hahninator]

 

UPDATE: Due to extreme weather conditions, the show was cancelled.

After a week break, Linkin Park is back in action on May 23rd when they head to Pryor, Oklahoma to headline day two of Rocklahoma. Joining them on the Bud Light Main Stage (which appears to be seated?) at this show are Volbeat, Halestorm, Anthrax, The Pretty Reckless, and Candlebox. All of those with the exclusion of Candlebox also played with LP at Rock on the Range last weekend. A funny part of this show's schedule is that Scott Weiland and his wild band (ha) play directly before Linkin Park on the Hard Rock Casino Stage. LP's set time is from 10:45pm-12:15am, and while they are technically headlining, other acts play after them on the other, smaller stages. This is the third show of the summer for Linkin Park, coming after Rock in Rio USA and Rock on the Range, but only 17,000 people are expected each day for this festival.

Linkin Park has played in Oklahoma a few times before. Their second tour ever, with the Kottonmouth Kings in 2000, stopped in Tulsa that year and they were back four weeks later at the same venue with P.O.D. as well. The band's good friends in Papa Roach played a radio show with them in Oklahoma City that December, giving Oklahoma three shows in one year. Oklahoma didn't get a show in 2001 as the Oklahoma City stop on the Family Values Tour was later canceled when the tour was rerouted several times.

Projekt Revolution 2002 visited the state and Linkin Park headlined Oklahoma City for the first time in February 2002. It was at this show that Crawling was stopped and restarted mid-song due to the fans being so wild. There's a good audience recording of this show if you want to listen to a solid 2002 performance. Next, the University of Oklahoma in Norman, OK was a stop on the Meteora World Tour in 2004 in between the Las Vegas and Texas shows.

Linkin Park did not return to Oklahoma until February 2008, on the Minutes To Midnight North American Arena Tour, four years later. Chester was sick at this show but instead of canceling, the band performed an abbreviated setlist. Wake went into Lying From You as Given Up was dropped (even though it was just released as a single a few weeks prior), Papercut had the outro from Points Of Authority, and Chester even told fans they could get their money back if they weren't satisfied. Check out the show page, as we cover all of the changes at that show. The two shows after Oklahoma City were canceled, and after four more abbreviated shows, the band returned to a full setlist to close the tour in Sacramento, CA.

This will be the band's seventh show in Oklahoma, first since 2008, and first in Pryor, OK.

At the last Linkin Park show (last weekend), LP debuted their full U.S. Festival setlist for this summer. Rebellion and Breaking The Habit made their 2015 debuts, part of Darker Than Blood was performed directly before Burn It Down, and From The Inside stuck around after coming back for three shows in January. Unfortunately, A Place For My Head didn't make the cut for this set.

Phoenix gave an interview to an Oklahoma newspaper, saying about The Hunting Party, Those songs were written with the live setting in mind. A lot of people draw a correlation between The Hunting Party as an album and maybe Hybrid Theory and Meteora. All those records were written from the perspective of what would be the most fun way to present a song in a live setting. When youre starting out as a band, every song you write is going to transition and be some part of your live set."

While The Hunting Party may have been written with the live setting in mind, only six songs from the album have been performed live and two of those were dropped for this tour (Guilty All The Same and Final Masquerade, two of the singles). Another, Until It's Gone, was only performed in full less than 20 times, before being shortened for summer/fall 2014 and then disappearing entirely. Only Wastelands, Rebellion (which was absent from the Winter North American Tour), and A Line In The Sand remain in the set from the new album.

A band that used to be known for playing every song on their albums live (Hybrid Theory, Meteora, Minutes To Midnight, and even A Thousand Suns with the new Robot Boy piece in the show), Living Things and The Hunting Party suffered greatly, with a combined thirteen of twenty four songs being played live, including the instrumental Tinfoil and excluding the verse of Until It Breaks that is rapped over Waiting For The End. For Living Things, In My Remains also disappeared mid-touring cycle and hasn't been played since. Whatever happened to I'll Be Gone, Roads Untraveled, Powerless, All For Nothing, War, Mark The Graves, and more - we don't know. Did the band get lazy? Did they think that these songs wouldn't translate live? Did they want more "popular" songs played in the sets? Were these songs just not good enough to be played live?

"For this most recent record, we kind of returned back to that mentality, that ethos of a real live setting whats gonna be exciting as an audience member, whats the best choice to make step by step in the writing of a song, to be able to really have it translate in the live setting, the live environment.

I think the outdoor summer festivals are really unique in the energy that theyre able to create. You cant get such an awesome energy and atmosphere in an arena as you can at one of these festivals where people just, you get there early enough, you can get close and it turns out to be lots of excitement, a lot of energy in a crowd and its own unique thing."

Also at the last show, Brad was absent as many of you noticed. He was dealing with a personal/family issue and to our knowledge, we are about 95% sure that he will be back this weekend. Benjamin Chandler, his guitar tech, played the show for him and it was Benjamin's third time playing in place of Brad on this touring cycle. He also played both Brazil shows last fall.

Linkin Park plays back-to-back shows and headlines the Bud Light River City Rockfest outside of the AT&T Center on May 24th. Major storms are predicted for San Antonio on Saturday, so we will see if that affects the show in any way. Pryor is also being drenched with rain, with 3-5 inches predicted over the weekend.

The band is going to keep the same setlist for the rest of May, at least, and we don't think they'll change anything until Mexico. This setlist is a little shorter than the rest of the touring cycle, so it wouldn't surprise us if Mexico in June got an encore and one or two extra songs added to the show. These are the last two shows for May, and LP takes a four week break before five shows in June that start on June 19th.

A webcast/broadcast of the Rocklahoma show is NOT expected as AXS TV will not be at the festival this year. In case you missed the Rock in Rio USA or Rock on the Range shows, you can download both in our video section of the forums.

For upcoming tour dates, past setlists, and more, the 2015 tour page can be found here.

[Kirstie]

Oh to be a fly on the wall if Scott or Chester pass by each other.

[NimaLP]

Awesome preshow post! Thanks Mark.

[Derbyster]

I'm worried Europe will have the same setlist as we have now and that would be very boring. They don't have much time to rehearse in the summer at least.

Edited May 22, 2015 by Derbyster

[stich]

I'm worried Europe will have the same setlist as we have now and that would be very boring. They don't have much time to rehearse in the summer at least.

I may think that they'll add few songs since that they'll play 90 minutes maximum at this US festival;

I think that their full headlining set will be seen in Mexico or China

[marzo23]

i think... same setlist like last week and....

 

I'm worried Europe will have the same setlist as we have now and that would be very boring. They don't have much time to rehearse in the summer at least.

 

China and Europe will get longer setlists with at least 7 minutes more (~2 songs more)

[sckofelng]

i think... same setlist like last week and....

 

 

China and Europe will get longer setlists with at least 7 minutes more (~2 songs more)

 

not sure about that for Rock'N'Heim and Rock Im Sektor... Berlin for sure though!

[stich]

 

not sure about that for Rock'N'Heim and Rock Im Sektor... Berlin for sure though!

will be problably similar to what happened in 2011, when the fetivals gets a shortened set with no encore break Edited May 22, 2015 by stich

[RogueSoul]

Shit, I'll have to make San Antonio fucking massive to combat this one

 

Heads up - Phoenix will be on the VyRT LPU Chat before the show at 9:15 CT.

[ChuckCheese]

When the Living Things touring cycle ended and they had barely played any songs off of it I just assumed that we would get them on the next album cycle. When that didn't happen I thought maybe they weren't very proud of Living Things. I consider it to definitey be their weakest album. But they've been doing the exact same thing with The Hunting Party, which are all songs they said were meant to be played live (they also said the same thing about Living Things). I honestly have no clue why this is what's been happening in the sets. It's not just that they've not debuted new songs, but they've also immediately dropped some. The disappearance of Guilty All The Same and Final Masquerade is so strange to me, as they were two out of a measly three singles off of Hunting Party. Until It's Gone I think I can understand, even though it's a single it wasn't ever meant to be on the album anyway. The rest makes no sense to me. I don't get what's up.

[Astat]

 

When the Living Things touring cycle ended and they had barely played any songs off of it I just assumed that we would get them on the next album cycle. When that didn't happen I thought maybe they weren't very proud of Living Things. I consider it to definitey be their weakest album. But they've been doing the exact same thing with The Hunting Party, which are all songs they said were meant to be played live (they also said the same thing about Living Things). I honestly have no clue why this is what's been happening in the sets. It's not just that they've not debuted new songs, but they've also immediately dropped some. The disappearance of Guilty All The Same and Final Masquerade is so strange to me, as they were two out of a measly three singles off of Hunting Party. Until It's Gone I think I can understand, even though it's a single it wasn't ever meant to be on the album anyway. The rest makes no sense to me. I don't get what's up.

 

Band gets older, band's fans get older, people are generally opposed to change/new things and start to either universally criticize or outright ignore new material the band puts out. Band's newer albums don't sell as well as their old ones did, band's newer singles don't perform as well as their old ones did, and the new songs the band does add to the live set don't get nearly the reception their "classics" do.

 

When the general opinion of the average fan at a Linkin Park show is "Everything after Minutes to Midnight sucks, I'm hoping they play In the End, Numb, and What I've Done...what, they have a new album out? I had no idea," why the hell WOULD they go to the trouble of playing as much of their new material as possible? The people who DON'T spend time on Linkin Park fan forums like we do either don't like most of the new material or don't even know it exists. There were people IN THE FRONT ROW with me at Carnivores last year who were saying things like "The only good song on the new album is that You Don't Know What You've Got Until It's Gone song," and when I called them on their bullshit and asked them to even name another song title from the new album, they couldn't come up with one. These aren't just the "average fans" anymore, these are the people dropping almost a hundred bucks a ticket on a show and waiting outside the venue for hours to be up front. People on sites like this don't realize that they are in a TINY minority segment of the band's overall fanbase.

 

Unless Linkin Park randomly pulls another crossover top 10 hit single (as in pop chart success, not the rock charts) out of their ass at some point, they're firmly cemented in "heritage act" territory by now. I think that's been the case ever since they started playing the majority of Hybrid Theory again at the start of the Living Things cycle.

Edited May 23, 2015 by Astat

[GlassCastles]

Unless Linkin Park randomly pulls another crossover top 10 hit single (as in pop chart success, not the rock charts) out of their ass at some point, they're firmly cemented in "heritage act" territory by now. I think that's been the case ever since they started playing the majority of Hybrid Theory again at the start of the Living Things cycle.

It's sad, but true.

[NimaLP]

Band gets older, band's fans get older, people are generally opposed to change/new things and start to either universally criticize or outright ignore new material the band puts out. Band's newer albums don't sell as well as their old ones did, band's newer singles don't perform as well as their old ones did, and the new songs the band does add to the live set don't get nearly the reception their "classics" do.

 

When the general opinion of the average fan at a Linkin Park show is "Everything after Minutes to Midnight sucks, I'm hoping they play In the End, Numb, and What I've Done...what, they have a new album out? I had no idea," why the hell WOULD they go to the trouble of playing as much of their new material as possible? The people who DON'T spend time on Linkin Park fan forums like we do either don't like most of the new material or don't even know it exists. There were people IN THE FRONT ROW with me at Carnivores last year who were saying things like "The only good song on the new album is that You Don't Know What You've Got Until It's Gone song," and when I called them on their bullshit and asked them to even name another song title from the new album, they couldn't come up with one. These aren't just the "average fans" anymore, these are the people dropping almost a hundred bucks a ticket on a show and waiting outside the venue for hours to be up front. People on sites like this don't realize that they are in a TINY minority segment of the band's overall fanbase.

 

Unless Linkin Park randomly pulls another crossover top 10 hit single (as in pop chart success, not the rock charts) out of their ass at some point, they're firmly cemented in "heritage act" territory by now. I think that's been the case ever since they started playing the majority of Hybrid Theory again at the start of the Living Things cycle.

 

This is exactly what's happening right now. Many of my friends who were hardcore LP fans now don't follow the band a lot. A lot of things have changed. A few years ago when I spoke the name of Linkin Park, everybody was saying "Oh I've heard they're a great band! Will you copy their songs on my flash drive?". But now it's like "Linking Park? Who are they? Are they the band that had a song named... ah... oh, Burn It Down?"

I haven't seen any hardcore LP fans for a long time (except here). I think we have to deal with it. It is what it is.

[Mesck547]

I think they're more comfortable with playing older songs, and the majority of the crowd prefers the older songs as well. I do believe there is a solution for this problem. They could play a couple of release shows where the new album is being played live in full, then keep the half of the album that translates the best into a live setting/ crowd enjoys the most in the set. (For example: In the THP cycle they could have played the album in full in some of the european shows and the US promo shows or in the US shows only. Then keep GATS, Rebellion, Wastelands, FM, UIG and ALITS in the set). If they consider it problematic incorprating this half all at once, they could have a rotation between the songs. But, that's not very likley to happen. So for now, I believe half of the album being played live (not all at once though), is not that bad. Could've been worse.

Edited May 23, 2015 by Mesck547

[JZLP-Benningstrong]

I think they're more comfortable with playing older songs, and the majority of the crowd prefers the older songs as well. I do believe there is a solution for this problem. They could play a couple of release shows where the new album is being played live in full, then keep the half of the album that translates the best into a live setting/ crowd enjoys the most in the set. (For example: In the THP cycle they could have played the album in full in some of the european shows and the US promo shows or in the US shows only. Then keep GATS, Rebellion, Wastelands, FM, UIG and ALITS in the set). If they consider it problematic incorprating this half all at once, they could have a rotation between the songs. But, that's not very likley to happen. So for now, I believe half of the album being played live (not all at once though), is not that bad. Could've been worse.

 

Daydreaming, daydreaming all the time

[hahninator]

People on sites like this don't realize that they are in a TINY minority segment of the band's overall fanbase.

 

Unless Linkin Park randomly pulls another crossover top 10 hit single (as in pop chart success, not the rock charts) out of their ass at some point, they're firmly cemented in "heritage act" territory by now. I think that's been the case ever since they started playing the majority of Hybrid Theory again at the start of the Living Things cycle.

 

This is true.

 

They'll have another crossover top 10 hit single. Until It's Gone could have been it if they didn't do a stupid "LOL GATS AS FIRST SINGLE...THEN UIG!" situation. Maybe if it was in Transformers 4 it would have blown up. Either way, they were REALLY dumb in how they released singles and that guaranteed UIG couldn't do anything.

 

With how much they said the last album was going to be a POP album (before Mike decided to do rock), I'm sure that's what they're headed towards for the next album or two. And we all know they can pop a 3-3.5 minute radio single out in minutes without much effort (see: What I've Done, Burn It Down) so I think they'll get a few big hit songs for sure. I highly doubt LP is done in the sense of releasing huge singles and all, because I really see them going the route of Maroon 5 on the new album and making a very poppy sound with an extremely mainstream feel, regardless of how I feel about it.

[JordanLP]

Hi everyone, just became a member, I've been a long time Lplive reader, love the site! In regards to LP playing hits from hybrid theory and stuff for the fans. Wasn't the whole point of the bands decision to change their style to stop pleasing a certain crowd? This whole tours setlist so far has been nothing but trying to please the old/casual fans. If LP like doing that, then they should make an album like HT or meteora again, least they might play songs off it. I think we can all agree the medley has to go by the time the next album cycle tour hits. On the positive, Brad has really stepped his game up lately, chester's scream is amazing again and I love the new papercut intro!!!!!

Edited May 23, 2015 by JordanLP

[loulax07]

 

This is exactly what's happening right now. Many of my friends who were hardcore LP fans now don't follow the band a lot. A lot of things have changed. A few years ago when I spoke the name of Linkin Park, everybody was saying "Oh I've heard they're a great band! Will you copy their songs on my flash drive?". But now it's like "Linking Park? Who are they? Are they the band that had a song named... ah... oh, Burn It Down?"

I haven't seen any hardcore LP fans for a long time (except here). I think we have to deal with it. It is what it is.

 

Not sure I agree here and I may be one of the few in the minority then. I have been a huge fan since day one, back in 1999 and saw them live, i THINK, for the first time in 2000 opening up for POD. I listened to HT off of a CD-R for a year. Got me thru alot of crap back then. Then mid-late 2000's i tapered off a little but then blew back up real into it after 2010. Yes, their music changed but i learned to evolve with the band and adapt and evolve with myself. Of course i like the old shit better but i appreciate them for a band now. I also appreciate the things they do outside of making music, such as charity and personal works like art. I think that's when I started liking them for who they are and not what they are. You feel closer to them. then the M&G just set it off for me. always knowing they were around my age was one thing but conversing with them and seeing they ARE human and kinda like me was a changing factor in my mind.

Now i collect more than their music and appreciate it all one in the same. Their talent always impresses the hell out of me and will continue to do so. Friends of mine dont get my obession or passion I'd say, but it doesnt matter. Let the fairweather fans go away and leave the good shit for the faithful!

[Michelbeats]

Band is getting older, so it's normal to be a bit mellow.

Sadly Until it's gone didn't do much here (Holland)

It had a few airplays but that's it. Not a massive single like "In the End" "Breaking The Habit" "Numb(Encore)"

Edited May 23, 2015 by Jawnson

[Sucre06]

Is there anyone else on the show ? who is going to post setlist ?

and how much left before the LP start ?

[RogueSoul]

Show briefly evacuated due to the storms in the middle of Anthrax's set. Anthrax are back on now, people being let back in, but still a tornado watch in progress.

[hahninator]

I don't know anyone going.

[JZLP-Benningstrong]

Lets find someone in Twitter

[Sucre06]

Lets find someone in Twitter

you mean, guy which will post set ?

[Catalyst619]

Looks like we don't have to worry about the setlist now.