LinkinMark Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Only got to listen to the album properly today. Surprised at how much I like it. I think Living Things made me doubt them a little bit Saying that, I do actually like a few songs on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sublimeric Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 This is my least favorite release based on the purchase process alone. Pre-ordered on iTunes so it would download to my phone automatically at midnight last night. Guess what? Still won't download. Added bonus: I don't get the Hybrid Theory set. This is too much hassle for a mediocre album. I like the new songs mixed into the live show, though. It helps freshen it up alot and all the "Hunting Party" tracks sound great live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 This is my least favorite release based on the purchase process alone. Pre-ordered on iTunes so it would download to my phone automatically at midnight last night. Guess what? Still won't download. Added bonus: I don't get the Hybrid Theory set. This is too much hassle for a mediocre album. I like the new songs mixed into the live show, though. It helps freshen it up alot and all the "Hunting Party" tracks sound great live. Always order through LP, iTunes is a joke. It's not LP's fault that iTunes sucks. You could have got the digital album + HT live digital album through LP.com for almost the same price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesck547 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 This is my least favorite release based on the purchase process alone. Pre-ordered on iTunes so it would download to my phone automatically at midnight last night. Guess what? Still won't download. Added bonus: I don't get the Hybrid Theory set. This is too much hassle for a mediocre album. I like the new songs mixed into the live show, though. It helps freshen it up alot and all the "Hunting Party" tracks sound great live. Try downloading it manually from iTunes on your computer. That's how I got my iTunes copy of the album. Then, you can transfer the files to your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesper Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I just got my special deluxe of their website, love the booklet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorast Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I'd only buy the "tribute" idea if this could be considered a concept album in any manner, which it is not. Instead it just comes across as lazy, especially with the Victimized riff in the exact same line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I'd only buy the "tribute" idea if this could be considered a concept album in any manner, which it is not. Instead it just comes across as lazy, especially with the Victimized riff in the exact same line. I disagree with you 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumtram Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) I'd only buy the "tribute" idea if this could be considered a concept album in any manner, which it is not. Instead it just comes across as lazy, especially with the Victimized riff in the exact same line. I totally agree. The whole tribut thing ("Blackout" and "VICTIMIZED") makes absolutely no sense. I could see it for GATS as a kind of theme on the album, but aside from that it's really out of place to do it with absolutely no reason. Coming across as the revolutionary rock radio reformists and recycling old stuff? Nah! Edited June 18, 2014 by Trumtram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Where are people hearing Blackout in Mark the Graves? I'm not hearing it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw818 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I'm surprised there is no Parental Advisory label. Not that I care anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coizu Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Where are people hearing Blackout in Mark the Graves? I'm not hearing it at all. Must be the same people who hear Numb in UIG... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardyWilderness Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Where are people hearing Blackout in Mark the Graves? I'm not hearing it at all. No? https://soundcloud.com/lee-adams-music/blackout-the-graves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sian18 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 No? https://soundcloud.com/lee-adams-music/blackout-the-graves The only thing that is similar is mikes pitch in some parts of song everything els dos not go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearOfTheDuck Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 There's nothing in Mark the Graves that directly sounds like Blackout, but I definitely think it feels the same, in some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-NaughtyNottingham Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 LOL if two tracks can be mashed up that means that one of those copied the another? that's bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardyWilderness Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I never said one copied another. I just said I can hear Blackout in MTG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw818 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I made this edit of GATS a couple months ago. Shortened intro and heavy first chorus. I actually prefer this over the studio final. https://soundcloud.com/lonewolf-818/guilty-all-the-same-shortened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesper Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Where are people hearing Blackout in Mark the Graves? I'm not hearing it at all. I'm also not hearing it, but oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 No 2 LP songs ever sound the same to me, each song sounds different and unique, I don't compared songs to other songs or albums to other albums, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumtram Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) i got the same feel on my first listen and it's still apparent to me. it might be a different key, but the way it is sung is almost the same. even the musical portion resembles "blackout". but this is just a minor thing for me. the biggest issue i have is the "VICTIMIZED" part in ALITS and that one can't be denied, not even by geki. everyone can decide for themselves what they make out of it. i still find it fascinating that they more or less copied that part as their breakout on ALITS. it's still my second fav on the album, though, and is touching GATS' top spot. Edited June 18, 2014 by Trumtram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) i got the same feel on my first listen and it's still apparent to me. but this is just a minor thing. the biggest issue i have is the "VICTIMIZED" part in ALITS and that one can't be denied, not even by geki. everyone can decide for themselves what they make out of it. i still find it fascinating that they more or less copied that part as their breakout on ALITS. it's still my second fav on the album, though, and is touching GATS' top spot. Technically speaking, that part of the ALITS riff is still different from Victimized. Same strumming pattern centered around a D, but Victimized is mostly single D notes with a D octave at the end, while ALITS bounces back and forth between an open D5 chord and a D octave. Victimized also has a shitload of effects on the guitar, if you strip those away it doesn't sound quite as similar. Plus there's a different turnaround at the end of each riff, it's only the first part that's mostly the same. Nowhere near as blatant reusing of the same riff/chord progression as Faint/From the Inside or What I've Done/A Light That Never Comes. The "Victimized riff" is one small component of a 6 and a half minute song that covers a ton of ground. They've built entire songs around identical chord progressions in the past. Edited June 18, 2014 by Astat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw818 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 ALITS and Victimized don't sound that much alike. Definitely sounds similar to GATS. I made a song edit of GATS with the choruses from ALITS instead. It fits very well I'll upload it soon. I also removed those odd endtings to the songs, like on KTTK, AFN, ect... Rearranged the order of the songs too. I still listen to the orginals in order most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Who really actually cares anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumtram Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Technically speaking, that part of the ALITS riff is still different from Victimized. Same strumming pattern centered around a D, but Victimized is mostly single D notes with a D octave at the end, while ALITS bounces back and forth between an open D5 chord and a D octave. Victimized also has a shitload of effects on the guitar, if you strip those away it doesn't sound quite as similar. Plus there's a different turnaround at the end of each riff, it's only the first part that's mostly the same. Nowhere near as blatant reusing of the same riff/chord progression as Faint/From the Inside or What I've Done/A Light That Never Comes. The "Victimized riff" is one small component of a 6 and a half minute song that covers a ton of ground. They've built entire songs around identical chord progressions in the past. i agree that it isn't exactly the same. there are differences throughout but it's very similar to my mind. they stripped down the effects for sure, but that doesn't help much as it remains a musically similar part. if "VICTIMIZED" would've been a demo from the LPU that wouldn't be that big of a deal for me. it just irks me because ALITS is amazing throughout but i guess we can leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckCheese Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I'm 99% sure that the GATS sounding parts of ALITS are completely intentional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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