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Considering Brad said literally a few days ago that it's still pretty early in the process, and they're only just now starting to figure out the style of the record, I highly doubt they have a single finished, much less are about to release it.

Easier To Run was confirmed to have been played 22 or 23 times, I believe. More than likely, it was played at every show on the 2003 LPU tour and Projekt Revolution '03, but some of the dates have unknown sets. Also, questions like this should be asked here: http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=7380

No way this album is out before 2017. If they're STILL trying narrow down which songs they want to work on for the actual album, 4 months into 2016, the absolute earliest this album will come out is December of 2016, and that's a bit of a stretch. I'm guessing January/February 2017.

I really hope the album stays in this almost minimalist mindset. The direction they're taking is incredibly exciting for me. The update didn't exactly tell us anything new, but I am a little glad to see they still consider this to be the "early" part of the process. They're taking their time with this one, and I 100% back that. I wouldn't be surprised to see this come out in early 2017.

Chester, or someone with a similar range, probably should have sung those "It's only one more day" lines. It needs an extra punch that Mike just didn't deliver on there. Otherwise, this sounds really good. Like it more than either of the Aoki tracks.

This is the song you're speaking of, correct? Because it's a REAL stretch calling them similar, let alone saying one inspired the other.

I, um, I have no clue where you're getting that at all.

1. A.06 (2004 Live Version; Feedback Outro) 2. QWERTY (w/ 'Victimized' v2) 3. Papercut 4. No More Sorrow (Long Intro) 5. Empty Spaces 6. When They Come For Me 7. Keys To The Kingdom (Hard Start) 8. Lost In The Echo (Long Intro) 9. Rebellion (Ext. Intro) 10. I'll Be Gone (Primo Intro; w/ Recharged Verse) 11. Waiting For The End/Hands Held High (Mashup 2.0; Apaches Intro w/ 'Until It Breaks' v3; Wall of Noise Outro) 12. Until It's Gone ('No More Sorrow' + 'The Catalyst' Mashup Intro; Ext. Transition Outro) 13. A Light That Never Comes 14. Castle Of Glass (Experience Version; Bridge w/ 'Wisdom, Justice, And Love' Speech Samples; Oppenheimer Outro) 15. Burning In The Skies 16. Final Masquerade (Cinematic Intro) 17. Numb/Encore (Guitar Intro; Shortened (Second Half Only)) 18. In The End 19. What I've Done (AMBO Intro; Ext. Guitar Solo Bridge) 20. A Line In The Sand 21. Faint (Ext. Outro) ------------------------- 22. Roads Untraveled 23. Blackout 24. Bleed It Out (Ext. Intro w/ 'Reading My Eyes' v1; Ext. Bridge w/ Drum Solo, 'A Place For My Head' v1 + Bridge; Ext. Ending w/ Guitar Solo) 25. One Step Closer (Reanimation Bridge; Ext. Outro)

I really doubt they have too many more "full songs". Most of the stuff with vocals that are left will probably be closer to this, TooLeGit, Asbestos, Debris etc. I hope we get some demos of songs that made albums in the upcoming months (namely Mike's take of Final Masquerade). This is really good. Definitely has that WAK/WTCFM vibe. Almost wish this had been developed a little further, but I can kind of see why they ditched it.

Yes. I'd be shocked to see this come out before September or October.

This isn't DIY. This is the actual vocal track from the song. The mix is a little off, I think, but the actual vocal tracks are 100% official.

If it's not official, then it's genuinely the best fake I've ever heard in my life.

It's Chance Of Rain, not Chances Of Rain. This was actually very interesting.

1. Mashup Intro (w/ 'Roads Untraveled', 'The Summoning', 'Fallout', 'Darker Than Blood', '1stp Klosr'; Synth Transition Outro) 2. One Step Closer (Reanimation Intro; Reanimation Bridge; Ext. Outro) 3. Rebellion (Synth Jam Intro; Ext. Guitar Solo Outro) 4. Victimized (Piano Intro w/ Gang Vocals; w/ 'Keys To The Kingdom' + 'QWERTY') 5. No More Sorrow (Long Intro; Ext. Bridge; Drum Solo Outro) 6. Bleed It Out (Ext. Intro w/ 'Papercut' v1; Ext. Bridge w/ 'Reading My Eyes' v2, 'Papercut' Chorus; Ext. Ending) 7. All For Nothing (w/ 'Lying From You'; Ext. Guitar Solo Bridge) 8. Lies Greed Misery (Shortened (Intro, Bridge, and Chorus Instrumental Only); Ext. Transition Ending w/ Savio Speech Scratch) 9. Wretches And Kings (Short Bruiser Intro; Ext. Bridge; Scratch Transition Outro) 10. With You (2016 Intro; Reanimation Bridge; Ext. Transition Outro w/ 'Figure.09' v1) 11. Until It Breaks (2015 Intro; Shortened (Intro, Mike v1, Mike v2, Chester Refrain Only)) 12. Waiting For The End/Hands Held High (Mashup 2.0; Apaches Intro w/ 'Until It Breaks' v3; Wall of Noise Outro) 13. Castle Of Glass (Experience Version; Bridge w/ 'Wisdom, Justice, And Love' Speech Samples; Piano Transition Outro) 14. Drawbar (Shortened (Piano Ending Only); w/ Oppenheimer Speech) 15. Final Masquerade (Cinematic Intro; A Cappella + Strings Outro) 16. Jornada Del Muerto (Harry S. Truman Speech Intro) 17. I'll Be Gone (Deprimido Intro; Ext. Bridge w/ Recharged Verse) 18. New Divide (Short Synth Intro; Ext. Bridge w/ 'Buy Myself' Samples; 1/2 Step Down; Shortened (No First Chorus or Second Verse)) 19. Burn It Down (Choir Intro; Ext. Bridge w/ Synth Solo; 1/2 Step Down; (Shortened (No First Chorus or Second Verse)) 20. In The End (Ambient Intro; Reanimation Style) 21. Numb (Guitar Intro; 'Numb/Encore' Ending) 22. A Line In The Sand (Keyboard Intro; Ext. Outro w/ 'The Catalyst' Refrain) ------------------------------------------ 23. What I've Done (AMBO Intro; Ext. Guitar Solo Bridge; Synth Outro w/ 'Darker Than Blood' v2 + Chorus) 24. From The Inside (Ext. Intro Loop; Ext. Bridge; Ext. Outro w/ Guitar Solo) 25. Blackout (Sample Jam Intro; Ext. Bridge) 26. Lost In The Echo (2016 Intro; Jam Outro) 27. Faint (Acetate Intro; Ext. Outro)

Just sounds like some reverb and a bit of EQ to give it a more "arena" sound. I do wish they had just put the live versions in, but whatever. The footage is fantastic.

Headlining Set 1. LP7 Instrumental 2. Faint (Ext. Outro) 3. Given Up (Ext. Outro) 4. Papercut 5. Points Of Authority (Ext. Intro w/ 'Dedicated' v1; Ext. Outro w/ 'Reading My Eyes' v1) 6. Wastelands 7. Somewhere I Belong (2016 Intro) 8. LP7 New Song 9. Numb ('Numb/Encore' Intro/Outro + v1 Guitar) 10. Waiting For The End (Apaches Intro w/ 'Until It Breaks' v3; Wall of Noise Outro) 11. Final Masquerade 12. Breaking The Habit (A Cappella + Strings Outro) 13. Castle Of Glass (Experience Version; Bridge w/ 'Wisdom, Justice, And Love' Speech Samples; Oppenheimer Outro) 14. The Catalyst 15. LP7 Single 16. New Divide 17. Burn It Down 18. In The End 19. What I've Done (Ext. Guitar Solo Bridge) 20. Bleed It Out (Ext. Intro; Ext. Bridge w/ 'A Place For My Head' v1 + Bridge; Ext. Ending w/ Guitar Solo) ------------------------- 21. Empty Spaces 22. When They Come For Me 23. Lost In The Echo 24. One Step Closer (Ext. Outro) Festival Set 1. LP7 Instrumental 2. One Step Closer (Ext. Outro) 3. Papercut 4. Given Up (Ext. Outro) 5. Faint (Ext. Outro) 6. Wastelands 7. Somewhere I Belong (2016 Intro) 8. Points Of Authority 9. New Divide 10. LP7 New Song 11. Numb ('Numb/Encore' Intro/Outro + v1 Guitar) 12. Waiting For The End (Apaches Intro w/ 'Until It Breaks' v3; Wall of Noise Outro) 13. LOATR/SOTD/Iridescent (Ballad Medley) 14. Breaking The Habit (A Cappella + Strings Outro) 15. Castle Of Glass (Experience Version; Bridge w/ 'Wisdom, Justice, And Love' Speech Samples; Oppenheimer Outro) 16. Final Masquerade 17. LP7 Single 18. Burn It Down 19. In The End 20. What I've Done (Ext. Guitar Solo Bridge) 21. Bleed It Out (Ext. Intro; Ext. Bridge w/ 'A Place For My Head' v1 + Bridge; Ext. Ending w/ Guitar Solo)

Fuck it, I'll try that. 1. Rebellion (Long Intro) 2. No Roads Left 3. A Place For My Head (Esaul Verses; Acoustic Intro; Ext. Outro) 4. Breaking The Habit (Guitar Intro) 5. Somewhere I Belong (2012 Intro) 6. Points Of Authority (Intro w/ 'Until It Breaks' v3; Outro w/ 'Reading My Eyes' v1) 7. Chance Of Rain (Ext. Bridge w/ Guitar Solo) 8. Jornada Del Muerto (Harry S. Truman Speech Intro) 9. The Catalyst (Synth Transition Outro) 10. Not Alone 11. Burn It Down (Paul Van Dyk Remix Intro) 12. My December (Hip Hop Intro; Piano Transition Outro) 13. Leave Out All The Rest (Oppenheimer Outro w/ 'Hands Held High' v1) 14. Crawling (KRWLNG Intro w/ 'Hands Held High' v2) 15. Mark The Graves 16. By Myself (2003 Intro) 17. Wretches And Kings 18. What We Don't Know 19. Bleed It Out (Drum Solo Intro; Ext. Bridge w/ 'Burning In The Skies' Chorus, 'Reading My Eyes' v2; Ext. Ending w/ Guitar Solo) ---------------------------- 20. No More Sorrow (Long Intro) 21. New Divide (Synth Intro) 22. Shadow of The Day (Ext. Guitar Solo Bridge) 23. One Step Closer (Reanimation Intro; Reanimation Bridge) I genuinely can't believe that BIO and OSC got the positions they did, but I swear I didn't change anything barring various extensions. The set actually flows quite well except for SOTD in the encore, and Wretches being so late is kind of weird. This is also the only set I will ever make that doesn't include COG EDIT: That almost felt unbelievable, so I'm doing another: 1. New Divide (Moscow Intro) 2. Robot Boy (Ext. Synth Solo Outro) 3. A Line In The Sand (Ambient Intro) 4. Blackout (Oppenheimer Outro w/ 'Mark The Graves') 5. I'll Be Gone (Primo Intro) 6. Until It Breaks (Extended w/ 'Foot Patrol' Verses) 7. Mashup Intro #1 (w/ '1stp Klosr', 'The Catalyst', 'The Radiance') 8. Guilty All The Same (Ext. Intro w/ 'Breaking The Habit' v1 + Chorus) 9. Wake 10. Lost In The Echo (KillSonik Intro) 11. Wisdom, Justice, And Love 12. Iridescent 13. Not Alone 14. Wretches And Kings (Bruiser Intro) 15. The Little Things Give You Away (Keyboard Intro) 16. With You 17. Lies Greed Misery (Dirtyphonics Intro) 18. Faint (Ext. Outro) 19. Wastelands (Ext. Outro) --------------------- 20. Fallout 21. Valentine's Day (Guitar Intro) 22. Powerless 23. Points Of Authority (Reanimation Intro) THAT looks more like what I thought a shuffle set would look like

When did I say that I didn't change the order? I said I made a set out of the first 24 random songs my iTunes came up with.

Put my iTunes on shuffle and made a set out of the first 24 songs it came up with. It was... interesting to say the least. 1. Wake (We Think We Know You Intro) 2. Across The Line (Acetate Intro) 3. When They Come For Me (Destruction Intro; Ext. Guitar Solo Bridge; Ext. Drum Outro) 4. No More Sorrow (Long Intro; Ext. Bridge) 5. Wretches And Kings (Speech Scratch Intro) 6. And One 7. Figure.09 8. With You 9. Hands Held High (Shortened (Intro/First Verse/Chorus Only)) 10. Waiting For The End (Apaches Intro w/ 'Hands Held High' v2; Wall of Noise Outro) 11. Roads Untraveled 12. Breaking The Habit (Piano Intro) 13. What We Don't Know 14. Not Alone 15. I'll Be Gone (Primo Intro) 16. Final Masquerade 17. Castle Of Glass (Experience Version; Bridge w/ 'Kenji' v1 + 'Wisdom, Justice, And Love' Speech Samples; Oppenheimer Outro) 18. Iridescent 19. Pretend To Be 20. What I've Done (Ext. Guitar Solo Bridge) 21. A Line In The Sand ---------------------- 22. Until It's Gone ('No More Sorrow' + 'The Catalyst' Mashup Intro; Ext. Guitar Solo Bridge; Ext. Outro w/ 'Points Of Authority' Rap) 23. Part Of Me 24. One Step Closer (Reanimation Intro; Reanimation Bridge; Ext. Outro)

Nope. There are so many cues to this not even being from the Xero era, let alone Pictureboard.

iTunes has fucked up release dates before. They have the LT Instrumental/Acapellas as a day before LT even came out.

1. No More Sorrow (Long Intro) 2. From The Inside 3. Keys To The Kingdom (Hard Start) 4. Victimized (w/ 'QWERTY') 5. Bleed It Out (Ext. Intro; Ext. Bridge w/ Guitar Solo) 6. Empty Spaces 7. When They Come For Me 8. Lying From You (2008 Intro) 9. What I've Done (AMBO Intro; Ext. Guitar Solo Bridge) 10. Mark The Graves 11. Blackout 12. Waiting For The End (Apaches Intro w/ 'Hands Held High' v2; Wall of Noise Outro) 13. Final Masquerade (Ambient Intro) 14. Numb (Guitar Intro) 15. Castle Of Glass (Experience Version; Bridge w/ 'Wisdom, Justice, and Love' Speech Samples; Oppenheimer Outro) 16. Burning In The Skies (Piano Intro) 17. In The End 18. Faint (Ext. Outro) 19. A Line In The Sand ------------------------- 20. The Requiem 21. The Radiance (w/ Savio Speech Scratch) 22. Wretches And Kings 23. Lost In The Echo 24. Rebellion (Ext. Intro) 25. One Step Closer (Ext. Outro)

http://lplive.net/shows/db/fortminor/20150826 Castle Of Glass and Kenji are listed as separate songs, when every other page has them as a mashup.

I actually did initially include WWDK along with ATL as a full, finished song, but someone (Brad, I think) said it was never finished. In hindsight, I probably should have remembered that pretty much none of them know what they're talking about.

There are actual quotes from the band saying that some of them are unfinished. The only reason I even think ATL was done was because it was, to put it in simpler terms, almost track 14 on MTM, with NRL being 13. Standing In The Middle is more than likely finished. That's it. The ones on the LPU CDs are the most finished VERSIONS of them, if you want to go that route. They're as finished as they were ever going to be since they were abandoned in favor of the songs that actually made the albums. Also, way for you guys to completely focus on the wrong point of the post.