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Nah, it's the same.

Camp Freddy uses a rotating cast of musicians, even over the course of a single show. They've had plenty of other guest guitar players that just played on a couple songs here and there, without all of their "usual" guitarists contributing on every song. Mike could play guitar...but I'd imagine it's more likely he'd play keys.

I don't think With You is any more random of a choice for an encore song than Papercut, Lying From You, etc...

Cooked these up as some potential A/B/C-style rotating setlists for 2013... A: 01. With You (Game of Thrones intro) 02. Given Up (ext. outro w/extra note) 03. Lying From You 04. Lies Greed Misery 05. Points of Authority 06. Victimized/QWERTY 07. In My Remains 08. Blackout 09. Somewhere I Belong (2012 intro) 10. Castle of Glass 11. Waiting For the End (Apaches intro/Wall of Noise outro) 12. Numb (Encore lyrics tease outro) 13. Burn it Down 14. LOATR/SOTD/Iridescent 15. Fallout 16. The Catalyst 17. Lost in the Echo (2012 intro) 18. What I've Done 19. One Step Closer (ext. outro) ---------- 20. New Divide (ext. synth/piano intro) 21. In the End 22. Bleed it Out (ext. outro) 23. Faint (ext. outro) B: 01. A Place for My Head (2012 intro) 02. Given Up (ext. outro w/extra note) 03. From the Inside (ext. intro) 04. Victimized/QWERTY 05. New Divide 06. In My Remains 07. Burn it Down 08. Burning in the Skies 09. Somewhere I Belong (2012 intro) 10. I'll Be Gone 11. Castle of Glass 12. Waiting For the End (Apaches intro/Wall of Noise outro) 13. LOATR/SOTD/Iridescent 14. Fallout 15. The Catalyst 16. What I've Done 17. Numb (Encore lyrics tease outro) 18. Faint (ext. outro) 19. One Step Closer (ext. outro) ---------- 20. Lost in the Echo (2012 intro) 21. With You (ext. scratch intro) 22. In the End 23. Bleed it Out (ext. outro) C: 01. New Divide (Moscow intro) 02. Papercut 03. Given Up (ext. outro w/extra note) 04. With You (ext. scratch intro) 05. Victimized/QWERTY 06. In My Remains 07. When They Come For Me (w/new drum intro) 08. Lost in the Echo (2012 intro) 09. Somewhere I Belong (2012 intro) 10. Castle of Glass 11. Waiting For the End (Apaches intro/Wall of Noise outro) 12. Breaking the Habit 13. LOATR/SOTD/Iridescent 14. Fallout 15. The Catalyst 16. What I've Done 17. Numb (Encore lyrics tease/piano outro, into...) 18. In the End (piano intro) 19. Bleed it Out (ext. outro) ---------- 20. Tinfoil 21. Faint (ext. outro) 22. Burn it Down 23. One Step Closer (ext. outro) Each set has 4 exclusive songs: A: LFY/LGM/POA/Blackout B: APFMH/FTI/IBG/BITS C: Papercut/WTCFM/BTH/Tinfoil I feel like the "Moscow intro" for New Divide was terribly under-used, it's an amazing intro. I didn't really care for Tinfoil/Faint as an opener, so I used New Divide as the opener in Set C and stuck Tinfoil/Faint in the encore. I also brought back Blackout and From the Inside as rotating songs, as they were played on the first leg of the 2012 tour but dropped on the Honda Civic Tour. I feel like Castle of Glass should be a featured song in every set, being a recent single, and I also feel like I'll Be Gone would translate really well live (far more so than Powerless, which a lot of people seem to be high on...), so I used that as one of the rotating tracks too. I also feel like Burning in the Skies never got played as much as it should have (it was just starting to sound good at the end of the ATS touring cycle), so I threw that in Set B too. I also stuck Fallout in all 3 sets between the medley and The Catalyst, because it honestly makes no sense to go from the Iridescent outro into The Catalyst WITHOUT playing Fallout...the synth/piano intro to New Divide in Set A would be like the China 2009 intro, the In the End intro in Set C would be the intro from the IHeartRadio show, and the "new drum intro" to WTCFM in Set C is something I kind of thought of myself: instead of using Empty Spaces, do an extended percussion intro, start with just Brad's drum part, then add Chester's, then add Rob's, maybe do a little bit of Street Drum Corps-style improv stuff, then launch into the song. I wasn't really sure what to do with Bleed it Out (other than I'm getting terribly bored of the Sabotage bridge), but I figure it makes sense to at least do the extended outro if nothing else.

They at least attempted to track No More Sorrow and No Roads Left live. No idea if those were the recordings that wound up on the final mixes (and both tracks obviously would have had some overdub work done anyway), although considering Phoenix fucks up the bass part at one point in the last chorus of NMS and they left it in, I'd say they might have used some of the live-in-studio work for that spng.

The one with the loud humming is the one I've always had, and presumably the same one Mark has too.

Yeah, that's the version I was referring to. I guess the version of the webcast I have is just really bad then, because it doesn't sound anywhere near that good. Weird that I remember that version of My December being something separate though.

I can't find the file anymore, and it actually may have been from a higher-quality rip of the KROQ 2000 webcast. It opens with some guy introducing LP, "From Santa Monica, California...MAN we've got so much good local music around here!" etc., then there's about a minute-long pause where Mike's playing around on the piano a little bit, then the song starts. Every rip of the webcast I've found cuts in on the first song though, so as far as I know it's the only version with the full intro. Do you know anything else about this? Most of my old shows are transcoded garbage from before I knew WTF I was doing, and I never bothered to replace most of them, so I actually have no idea what the "definitive version" of a lot of shows is... Oh, found another error, BTW: http://lplive.net/shows/20120904.php - Points of Authority and Lies Greed Misery are in the wrong order (same error that was made on the Calgary setlist).

Unless he went to rehab for said relapse, I doubt it. It's not like Chester didn't do numerous shows drunk and/or stoned during the Hybrid Theory/Meteora days.

It's a song. Confirmed by OpenLabs staff and mentioned as a standalone song in the initial Linkin Park Edition Dell PC press release.

The 2000 performance was officially released SOMEWHERE - there's a super high-quality version of just that one song that definitely isn't from a webcast source.

They've replaced their lead singer before. They'd do it again, guaranteed. You don't just give up on something that makes you several million dollars a year just because one out of six people is no longer part of it. I stand by my statement: Linkin Park could and probably would continue as long as Mike was still involved.

I'm sure the band would continue if they could find a fitting replacement. Linkin Park has always been Mike's baby, you could probably replace 5/6ths of the band (with the possible exception of Joe) and still have an end product that sounds like Linkin Park. With that said, I honestly can't think of anybody who could just be thrown into the role of lead singer in Linkin Park without missing a beat. There are some good singer/screamers out there, but the older material would inevitably sound different with any of them singing it.

I got to where the guitars come in on Faint, cringed, and shut it off. Bleh.

I think Tinfoil should be left the way it is for now, the only difference is that they adjusted the pitch to make it fade into Faint smoothly. I'd assume they'd play the normal version if they ever do Powerless live, but for now there's really no need to differentiate. If they keep playing it I'd say just calling it "Tinfoil (Live Version)" would be fine, but we should probably re-assess that after the album cycle is done.

Pretty much exactly what it sounds like. Mike tweeted a couple weeks back that he was going to make another mixtape (he's done like 4 or 5 of them in the past, they're all really easy to find), and asked fans to pick the genre. They picked nu metal.

That could be a screenshot of literally any piece of music anyone in the world has ever recorded on Open Labs software...

The video that 50-second clip comes from was posted in March. LP's partnership with Dell/Open Labs wasn't even announced until June. There's no way that's Bruiser.

With the random exception of the phrase "no passion" being muted out of Big Pimpin'/Papercut for whatever reason.

I did an "uncensored edit" of Standing in the Middle a while back...the censorship on LPU 4.0 was done by just reversing the words they wanted to edit out, so it's pretty easy to "undo" it.

It is if you make every bar twice as long and count it as 7/4, sure. A lot of it is really up to interpretation. I'm more inclined to think that the sheet music would just alternate bars of 3/4 and 4/4 though. BTW, LP has quite a few songs with unusual time signatures, or at least songs with parts in weird time signatures. The choruses of Reading My Eyes are in 6/4, Jornada Del Muerto is mostly in 9/8, Wisdom Justice and Love is in 5/4, No More Sorrow is in 12/8. From the Inside, Wake, TLTGYA, and Roads Untraveled are all in 6/8, and Burning in the Skies actually alternates between 6/4 (verses) and 4/4 (choruses/guitar solo). The verses of What We Don't Know are in 6/4 too. I'm sure there are others, but that's what I can think of off the top of my head.

Huh. Could've sworn he didn't do that initially.

Chester did the demo tape for his LP audition on his birthday in March of '99. The only way those '98 dates would be correct is if the songs were done before Chester joined and he just added his vocals later, which I suppose is possible, but they tend to date things based on when they were finished (see: Pretend to Be), plus Mike's said it wasn't until after Chester joined that they got the chance to do demos in a "professional" studio, and Slip/Blue/So Far Away all have the same sound quality as other HT-era demos. HT name change happened basically at the same time Chester joined, LP name change was in the spring of 2000 at some point (probably May, the demo CD from May 8th, 2000 has the old band name covered up/written over). One thing I'd love to have clarification on someday is when Phoenix initially left the band. Is he even on the Xero demo? Was he in the band with Chester at any point prior to rejoining in October of 2000? Who played bass on all of the HT demos, Kyle Christner? Brad? Someone else? Lots of unknowns there.

Outro sounds different because Mike switches to the Virus for the ending now. He stayed on his regular keyboard for the outro during earlier BID performances.

I'd say a 2013 U.S. tour is more of an inevitability than a possibility. Nothing's been announced, but it's pretty well-known that the band's Living Things touring plans extend through most of 2013.