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2011 North American Tour EP (released for free through LP.com) had Numb and When They Come For Me from Tel Aviv 2010 on it.

HDtracks gets masters directly from record labels for their releases. They're a HUGE company that's been doing this stuff for years. They have all 5 of LP's albums, and with the exception of Living Things, they're all in high-resolution 24-bit, 48kHz audio: https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=art...il&id=10140 I bought A Thousand Suns off of HDtracks like 2 years ago and they already had the other 3 albums released before it on there, so they've had LP stuff for quite a while. The quality isn't THAT much better than a lossless CD rip (16-bit audio at 44.1kHz). An HDtracks recording isn't magically going to make an album sound like it was re-recorded in a better studio or anything, what you get is a product that is enhanced slightly because it's not subject to the limitations of other popular mediums that music is distrubuted through (CDs and lossy music download services like iTunes).

WTF. The "new" version of Shadow of the Day is actually the same as the one that was released in Rock Band 3 last year too! That makes THREE separate instances of this version of the song being used in favor of the original - the Studio Collection release, the HDTracks release, and Rock Band. This is obviously NOT a demo or some kind of mistake, it's pretty clear now that at some point within the last couple of years a new master of Minutes to Midnight was made that would serve as the basis for all future releases, and it included a few small differences. Now I See is a demo because it actually includes musical elements that were changed in the final version of the song, not just moved around or removed altogether. Same with Plaster. Those are things that I couldn't recreate by just playing around with the multitrack files from the final album version recording. These new versions of SOTD, ATL, and NRL are. If these are "demos," then I guess I can create an endless number of "demos" with existing multitrack files. Maybe I'll go pull the scratching out of Lost in the Echo and upload that to Youtube as a demo, since apparently that would meet the criteria of one according to you guys.

Doesn't look like an internal disc to me - http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=702223

http://lplive.net/fortminor/20060128.php - This show was at Station 4 in St. Paul, not the Quest Club in Minneapolis (I clearly remember correcting this on the live guide at one point when I was still on staff, but it somehow got changed back?). It was ORIGINALLY supposed to be at the Quest Club, but was moved to Station 4 later, with the original tickets being honored at the new location. The Quest Club was actually closed down not long before the show was scheduled to take place (there had been several violent crimes at the Quest Club over the years that led to its closure). Fort Minor Myspace blog announcing the venue change: http://www.myspace.com/fortminor/blog/80431171

There was a Meteora premiere radio broadcast that day. They interviewed LP live from the Wiltern and stuff but the live performances they aired were recorded at Nottingham earlier that month.

On what planet does a song that's EXACTLY the same as the previously released version save for the absence of a whopping 4 measures of bass qualify as a demo?

Good catch! Didn't notice the absence of the bass in the first verse because I was listening through laptop speakers. The bass in the second verse of ATL has always been synth though -

The Live 8 sampler was actually a CD (not a DVD like lpliveusername said) so technically speaking, it's the only audio release of Numb/Encore from that show.

The version of FTI on this sampler is NOT from Live in Texas (that Faint promo was released to promote the Faint single...long before LIT). Pretty sure it's the same one from the Numb single. FYI, those 3 tracks were also bonuses on the cassette version of Meteora in certain areas (I know Indonesia was one).

Why would it get taken down? Anyway, listened to the whole MTM album. No musical differences other than SOTD and NRL. The mix is vastly improved with some parts being easier to hear than they were before (the strings at the climaxes of Valentine's Day and In Pieces were the most notable things I noticed), but that's probably more due to the remastering than having different recordings or anything like that.

Tunecore/CDBaby/Discmakers etc. + Brazil not being particularly tough on the distribution of bootlegs (as well as a lot of their "music business" in general being really shady) = PROFIT!

That's just the transition from the end of Figure.09 moved forward by like...half a second, if that, lol. Instead of starting with the gunshot, it has a little bit of the "fade in" before it that's normally at the end of Figure.09. Pretty sure that's how BTH is on the single version too, it's basically just the radio edit. Same with SIB, the intro starts in a slightly different spot than the album version does.

No different than them ending up in physical retail stores, which has been happening for years.

The LPU 2.0 CD in general is a piece of crap, mastering and overall sound quality-wise. Someone screwed up big time on that release. Shame we'll probably never get good quality versions of Dedicated and A.06.

Yeah, definitely seems like a mistake for a few reasons. But here's some trivia! This is the first pre-Minutes to Midnight live track to be released since Faint and From the Inside from Summer Sonic 2006 were released on the What I've Done CD single. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I THINK this is the first Hybrid Theory-era live track to be released since Step Up and My December from PR 2002 were released on the Somewhere I Belong CD single!

Mark's guess was a good one - High Voltage is from Wantagh 2001! http://lplive.net/shows/20010809.php

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Weird that it's literally the exact same clip of the song though.

LOL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. The version of SOTD on the Studio Collection is different from the one on the Deluxe Edition! Compare this sample with this sample. EXACT same section of the song, two different versions! How the fuck does shit like this happen?!

WHOA! SOTD is a different version! The little synth pad thing that Joe plays during the choruses has been replaced with strings!

It could just be as simple as them having several different "final mixes" of songs, then when they have to dig up the master tracks for a new release years down the line, they don't check which one ended up being the "final final" one, lol. Kind of like how the version of Robot Boy on LPU 11 was the same mix as album version but with a different vocal track on it.

I really doubt the audio is all from Dallas - just compare the LPU 3 version of Don't Stay with the one on the DVD for instance, two different performances (Mike says different things to the crowd during the breakdown). They obviously recorded the audio from both shows and used them both to some extent.

It's a bootleg that somehow made it onto iTunes. The cover art is fucking awful.

It's always been the studio version on every release until now. Sounds like it might be RAR 2001 actually.

Linkin Park has been erroneously using the term "demo" to describe basically any non-album track they release, dating all the way back to Step Up being labeled as a "1999 demo" on the In the End single in 2001. Across the Line is a completely finished Minutes to Midnight b-side that was literally the last song cut from the album, according to Mike.