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Mike started playing guitar on OSC in 2007, originally because the new intro they were opening shows with had two guitar parts in it, but he's continued playing guitar on that song ever since.

Definitely not Don Gilmore, considering he was still working with LP as recently as late 2004 on the live mixes for the LPU 4 CD. Mike was already well into writing Fort Minor material at that point.

Blackbirds, yes (I'm still sticking to my guns in saying that song wasn't touched at all between MTM and 8-Bit Rebellion). Not Alone, no, as it was redone later.

No idea. The picture in question is one I've had on my LP Guitars website for at least 5 years, I wasn't even aware that it was a video screenshot.

Across the Line/What We Don't know are MTM b-sides. I Have Not Begun, I guess you could TECHNICALLY call an ATS b-side based on when it was recorded, although I'm not sure if that was ever really in consideration for the album (I think it was more of a situation where Mike wanted to properly record the verses from his guest appearance with The Roots). Blue, Slip, and So Far Away would all be HT demos (as would any other stuff from that era - the only true HT b-side is High Voltage). Pretend to Be is one of those songs that I prefer to just consider a standalone track (New Divide, Not Alone, Issho Ni, My December, and a few others would fall into this category too). If they had released the "seed" version from the MTM sessions, that would obviously be a demo, but they randomly finished the song a year after the album was done and stuck it on an LPU CD. It's kind of like how Tinfoil/Powerless were written during the ATS sessions but not released until after they were updated for Living Things, just that in this case the "updated version" wasn't released on a studio album.

My December, KROQ AAC 2001 first night.

It's a pretty grey area with a band like LP that uses the terms "b-side" and "demo" interchangeably, but generally what I consider a b-side is a fully finished song that wasn't given a proper release at the time of its completion (usually in the form of songs that were recorded for albums but ultimately left off the final tracklistings, like High Voltage and No Roads Left). I consider something a demo when it was ultimately scrapped prior to reaching the point where you could call it "fully finished," which can include songs that were written/recorded during an album's production but abandoned before the final tracking phase, or earlier recordings of songs that were ultimately finalized (both being things we've gotten a LOT of on the past few LPU CDs).

A few more I could add after reading other responses would be Pictureboard, 20 Eyes, Marc Ostrick's Lockout footage (this could potentially qualify as the "older than Orlando 2000 live show" too, depending on what all he filmed), and the original One Step Closer music video. DBS Hamburg 2009 would be really cool too. Sao Paolo 2004 would be awesome given the sheer size/energy of the crowd, but I feel like the "epic factor" of that show took quite a hit when Camden came out, since it's the same setlist (which we previously didn't have a proshot of). Also, completely forgot about the full recording of Top of the Pops 2003 (which I guess is finally okay to talk about 10 years later, seeing as Simon was just talking about it on here a few weeks back)!

Eh, I'm still waiting on the fan-designed LPU 8 t-shirt that was supposed to be available through their web store. Not holding my breath that this actually sees the light of day.

With the MASSIVE number of mindblowing LP media releases over the past few years (both in terms of live and studio material), it occurred to me today that the definition of the "holy grail" isn't what it once was. Docklands 2001 full proshot? Got it. A proshot from Projekt Revolution 2004? Got it. MFR 2005? Got it. A lot of the one-time "BIG shows" are now available (and it's awesome!). So what do you guys think would qualify as one of those "HOLY SHIT" type of releases these days? Here's a few that I could think of (with the bolded ones being the "BIG" ones)... -A live show older than Phoenix 2000 -Wantagh 8/9/2001 full proshot video (filmed for HBO Reverb and shelved, Docklands was used instead) -A video source from a 2002 performance (Memphis?) -Full recordings of the two professionally-recorded LPU Tour 2003 shows (Nottingham full audio, Detroit full video - SHOCKED that we never got a SBD of Hit the Floor considering how much that tour was recorded) -Las Vegas 2003 (Boost Mobile show) -Audience recorings of Houston/Irving 2003 -Smokeout 2003 full proshot video -Roxy 2004 full proshot video (Several unreleased LP solo performances + both takes of LPJZ) -MFR 2005 proshot video (I rage a little every time a news station teases us with the 30-second stock clips) -Full proshot video and/or SBD audio of a Summer Sonic 2006 show (we've got like 7 or 8 professionally-recorded songs from that setlist, might as well piece together a full show) -Rock AM Ring 2007 full proshot video -KROQ AAC 2007 DSP-quality audio (we know Pooch recorded and mixed it) -A DSP of a Europe 2008 show that included Reading My Eyes -Transformers 2 premiere 2009 full proshot video -SiriusXM 2012 full audio -Australia/New Zealand 2013 DSPs (not really "holy grail" material, but dammit, at least give us ONE DSP with Castle of Glass...) -Grey Daze Rally Kap 1994 full video -Any Snax/Tasty Snax footage that may exist -Making of Minutes to Midnight (Webster Hall movie theater showing version) -Dead By Sunrise Las Vegas 2009 full acoustic set -Dead By Sunrise Scottsdale 2011 acoustic set (includes their rendition of The Messenger) -Fort Minor Pukkelpop 2005 full proshot video -Full Marc Ostrick Hybrid Theory tapes

It's not in any of the demos, and none of those were censored...why would it have been in the album version?

That is SUCH a gross exaggeration it's not even funny. I can't believe people are still taking something Phoenix said in passing 10 years ago as gospel. Basically all he said was that they discarded a bunch of their demos that would have become their second album and wrote a bunch of new ones. We know that they didn't trash EVERYTHING, because Somewhere I Belong, From the Inside, and Session all date back to 2001, Breaking the Habit dates back to like 1998 (at least the lyrical concept does), and we know that Faint and Lying From You were originally demoed in the back of the band's tour bus as well, meaning they were conceived in early 2002 at the latest. LP didn't begin proper studio sessions for their second album until late August of 2002, so any fully-completed songs from that era would have been recorded after that. They didn't record an entire album and then trash it. That's a ridiculous idea considering they only spent about 5 months in the studio for Meteora (the album was done by the end of January 2003). There's NO WAY they could've recorded two albums in that time...they barely even finished one (Chester didn't finish vocals until the album was already being mixed). Tracks from the "discarded sophomore album" would include stuff like Broken Foot and Halo that we've gotten on the past few LPU CDs.

I'll never understand the argument that people should have to share stuff before they can get stuff. That's basically like saying you shouldn't be able to buy a car if you've never sold one. It's not like everybody has something that would be on par with an uncirculated video master that they'd be able to share in order to be "worthy enough..."

I honestly don't even know if a more complete version of that recording exists.

Nope.

Awesome find Geki! I distinctly remember searching for this a while back and coming up with a "Cheezboy" album from the late '80s, but it only had one track on it. The full thing must have been added to Amazon/iTunes (it IS on iTunes as well) within the last few months. Also, Dark Lover isn't actually a Cheez song. He introduces it as "a song by our friend Geoffrey (Jeffrey?) Moses" at the Lake Forest show. No luck finding anything about him so far.

Griffith Observatory was a really cool location for their 2010 VMA performance too.

I'm half tempted to carry a shank.

Wasn't that Debris?

The reason preorders are being cancelled is because it's against Record Store Day policy for any of their participating retailers to reserve items for customers (they have problems with this every year, it's not some oddity with this particular item or anything). You're supposed to only be able to purchase Record Store Day items on Record Store Day. Most retailers won't have any idea what kind of stock they're getting for the event until they get their shipments in. My local store's truck will be coming in on the 18th, and based on the size of the store and the number of copies of this particular item, they're probably only going to get one copy, maybe two. And the only way for me to get one is to go wait in line for the store to open the morning of the 20th and hope nobody else gets it before I do. That's basically the entire basis of what Record Store Day is supposed to be.

I'm not just saying this because I've seen LP there 3 times...Blossom Music Center is a REALLY cool venue. It looks like a big cheese wedge stuck in the ground...or a UFO landing, depending on the angle! It's also surrounded by some BEAUTIFUL scenery in Cuyahoga Valley National Park. I love the way the area looks in the fall:

Given past history with this event, I'd say there's a good chance Chester winds up performing at least one song.

Any piece of music is technically the intellectual property of whoever composed it. How well that holds up in court usually depends on being able to prove who wrote it first. In the case of stuff like LP's live intros that are well-documented with various recordings, that would pretty much be a no-brainer, assuming they cared enough to actually pursue any legal action over it.

Move On features scratches by Joe as well.

How far in advance does LP's crew (other than the people involved directly in booking the shows) find out about tour plans anyway? HCT would still be 4-5 months away at this point. I would assume Adam is normally one of the first people to know, but I don't know how far out that is.