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The video that 50-second clip comes from was posted in March. LP's partnership with Dell/Open Labs wasn't even announced until June. There's no way that's Bruiser.

With the random exception of the phrase "no passion" being muted out of Big Pimpin'/Papercut for whatever reason.

I did an "uncensored edit" of Standing in the Middle a while back...the censorship on LPU 4.0 was done by just reversing the words they wanted to edit out, so it's pretty easy to "undo" it.

It is if you make every bar twice as long and count it as 7/4, sure. A lot of it is really up to interpretation. I'm more inclined to think that the sheet music would just alternate bars of 3/4 and 4/4 though. BTW, LP has quite a few songs with unusual time signatures, or at least songs with parts in weird time signatures. The choruses of Reading My Eyes are in 6/4, Jornada Del Muerto is mostly in 9/8, Wisdom Justice and Love is in 5/4, No More Sorrow is in 12/8. From the Inside, Wake, TLTGYA, and Roads Untraveled are all in 6/8, and Burning in the Skies actually alternates between 6/4 (verses) and 4/4 (choruses/guitar solo). The verses of What We Don't Know are in 6/4 too. I'm sure there are others, but that's what I can think of off the top of my head.

Huh. Could've sworn he didn't do that initially.

Chester did the demo tape for his LP audition on his birthday in March of '99. The only way those '98 dates would be correct is if the songs were done before Chester joined and he just added his vocals later, which I suppose is possible, but they tend to date things based on when they were finished (see: Pretend to Be), plus Mike's said it wasn't until after Chester joined that they got the chance to do demos in a "professional" studio, and Slip/Blue/So Far Away all have the same sound quality as other HT-era demos. HT name change happened basically at the same time Chester joined, LP name change was in the spring of 2000 at some point (probably May, the demo CD from May 8th, 2000 has the old band name covered up/written over). One thing I'd love to have clarification on someday is when Phoenix initially left the band. Is he even on the Xero demo? Was he in the band with Chester at any point prior to rejoining in October of 2000? Who played bass on all of the HT demos, Kyle Christner? Brad? Someone else? Lots of unknowns there.

Outro sounds different because Mike switches to the Virus for the ending now. He stayed on his regular keyboard for the outro during earlier BID performances.

I'd say a 2013 U.S. tour is more of an inevitability than a possibility. Nothing's been announced, but it's pretty well-known that the band's Living Things touring plans extend through most of 2013.

Yeah, depends entirely on who replies lol. I know Jen saw them on Summer Sanitarium in '03. Pretty sure Nick saw them even earlier than that.

2004. Earliest one in this thread so far.

Guitars on it also sound like they might be pulled from the Lost in the Echo multitracks. There are no samples from We Made It in there though. Whoever made this just happened to use the same chord progression.

Yeah, a lot of the demos we've gotten the last few years that didn't have vocals (at least the ones from MTM era or later) probably DID at least get scat vocals at some point, they likely just abandoned the songs before the vocals ever took on a definitive form so they chose to mute them out for the LPU releases. I'd rather not have scat vocals on demos anyway unless they're demos of songs that wound up on albums (like Fear and Drum Song), since it gives us a glimpse of how the vocals evolved from the demo to the final version. On an unrelated note, just noticed that LP got their dates wrong once again, labeling So Far Away as a "1998 demo" even though it has Chester on it and he joined in '99.

Absolutely not, nor should any of it be.

Lockjaw was the track that was made when testing out Pro Tools 8. There was also the OP-1 synth demo, which turned out to basically be the "seed" that was made into Razors Out. Other than that, the only remotely related thing I can think of was that video Mike posted on his blog a few years back of him experimenting with some MPC samples...

Probably broke the song down to just that one drum beat that they reused and built a new song from there. Kind of like what they did with Stick N' Move and Runaway.

...It's saying I've already voted in this poll when this is the first time I've even clicked on this thread, lol. Anyway, Ominous. Meteora-esque big guitars with crazy A Thousand Suns-esque sound effects mixed in? Perfect.

Excellent find with Debris! That's definitely coming from the studio monitors, not something that was dubbed into the video as background music later. Confirms that Debris was a demo that was worked on again during the ATS sessions. Interesting thing about the Homecoming clip in the Power the World video is it's at a different speed/in a different key. Sounds like they just took the synth part and edited it in there, the beat is missing too. I'm seriously not hearing any connection between So Far Away/Soundtrack and Asbestos/Given Up like some people are saying though.

People here heard it at the New Jersey LPU Summit. It's definitely not. It's not like EVERY LP-related song is registered on the BMI database. Stuff like Lockjaw isn't on there, for example.

It's usually either been right at midnight (Pacific time), or sometime mid-day during business hours. Probably depends on whether or not they got everything done the night before the scheduled launch date. I really don't think it's coming out today though. They generally give some kind of advance notice when the new version launches. Could still be any time this month, really (though I'd expect they'd have it out by Thanksgiving to take advantage of the initial holiday shopping rush).

Yeah, along with a lot of stock samples that LP created specifically for the program. There was also SUPPOSED to be an LPU-exclusive "expansion pack" of sorts where you could download additional content as an LPU member, but I never heard anything else about that...

Slip IS credited to Mark Wakefield in the LPU 11 booklet, but he's not on the BMI entry for some reason.

If I wasn't desperately trying to scrape together enough money to get married next year, I'd gladly do it myself. My laptop's on the verge of crapping out on me anyway, and the last Dell I had was a really nice computer until my fiancee hit the damn thing hard enough to crack the motherboard AND break the screen because her stupid Facebook game was taking too long to load or some shit like that.

Because it's totally impossible for one song to use a single word that happens to be in another song... The BMI database doesn't catalog demo titles of already-released songs - There's no entry for Fear, no entry for Drum Song, etc... that's also presumably why there are only 8 new tracks on there, even though we know for a fact that there are 10 on the LPU 12 CD. If Debris was a BITS demo, it wouldn't be on there.

I think this begs the question: Is it really worth listing soundcheck setlists on the live guide when nobody was there to see them?

Anyone who renewed the day LPU11 launched expires on the 16th. If the launch of LPU12 takes longer than that, they'll probably extend everybody's memberships by however long they need to give everyone a chance to renew without expiring (although under the new login system, you can still log in with an expired account for up to 2 months after your expiration date, you just can't access any website features without purchasing another membership). They've done the same thing in the past.