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Points of Authority, Paris 2008 - only time Mike did the High Road verse over the intro. Shadow of the Day, Mansfield 2007 - Brad screws up the beginning of the first guitar solo, improvises, and ends up coming up with a really cool alternate solo on the spot. There's only one DSP of New Divide with the "Moscow Intro," right?

^Pretty sure you had the wrong link on your CTRL+V there...

THANK YOU for the info about the City Clay track. There was always a bizarre lack of information about that track out there, good to have that settled. Not sure exactly who all is behind that "System" song, but I have a feeling "B. Roman" in the comments saying the chorus has Chester on it is Broman from LPA...who is well-known for having a fairly Chester-like singing voice. It's probably him doing the vocals and he's just trolling.

If they're taking pre-orders for tickets but are "still negotiating," that pretty much confirms that the whole thing is fake IMO. The same thing has happened several times before with Chinese concerts.

All Dead By Sunrise live performances of End of the World had an extended outro. This is mentioned for performances of Let Down/Inside of Me, but not EOTW for some reason.

Because they continued working on the song after Chester joined the band, just like Esaul, Rhinestone, Stick N Move, Slip, etc...? *Edit* Thread didn't take me to the most recent post, didn't see the other replies.

13th, 20th, or 27th. U.S. record industry just switched from Tuesday album releases to Friday to be in line with the international markets.

What I meant was that the "chirp" may have been a mistake that happened when Mike was initially recording the demo, which he noticed right away and liked, so it ended up being kept for all subsequent revisions of the song.

I've had the alternate Fort Minor album covers for quite a while now, but fuck if I can remember where they came from...I figured they were pretty well-known. Some of this other stuff is new to me though.

It's been well over 10 years at this point, but what I remember reading was about a "feedback loop" mistakenly ending up in the beat somehow and they ended up keeping it. I always assumed that chirping noise was what it was referring to, as I don't really hear anything else that sounds fitting. It might be something else I'm not hearing, or maybe the "mistake" happened when Mike did the original demo?

http://lplive.net/shows/db/2015/20150117- "Chester accidentally sang the first verse of 'One Step Closer' twice at this show." Not true: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjvP5mwS__w

More crew members... Benjamin Chandler (Brad's new guitar tech): https://instagram.com/benjamin_chandler/ Ted Regier (Phoenix's bass tech): https://instagram.com/stagelaidback/ Ethan Mates (Studio engineer since 2006/mixer of numerous live broadcasts): http://www.ethanmates.com/and https://instagram.com/ethanmates/

And even that's somewhat debatable. Definitely not the band Wakefield, and it certainly SOUNDS like Mark...

If they follow their typical pattern and do a "track pack," it'll be 6 songs. Also keep in mind Bleed it Out and Given Up were released for non-Rock Band games, so there's a good possibility they'd be included. They like to go with either well-known or current songs... IF this happens (which is by no means a guarantee), I'd say we'll get some combination of the following songs: Papercut Faint Given Up Bleed it Out Iridescent The Catalyst Lost in the Echo Castle of Glass A Light That Never Comes Guilty All the Same Until It's Gone Final Masquerade ...Actually, that's 12 songs. Can we just get a double pack?

Nope. That version just mysteriously "replaced" the original version in pretty much every official release from about 2011 onwards (HDTracks version of MTM, Rock Band, iTunes re-release of MTM/LP Studio Collection compilation). With the other weird changes to a couple other MTM-era songs on similar releases (the added drum beat in No Roads Left and the missing bassline from the first verse of Across the Line), my theory is that WB had a couple different masters of the album sitting around and at some point messed up and started using a different one than what was originally released.

I seem to remember seeing it at some point.

Brad was playing a Strat in that picture though. He uses a Strat for specific songs, and APFMH isn't one of them. So with it being a non-drop tuned "Strat song," the list of songs it could possibly be is narrowed down to Jornada del Muerto, I'll Be Gone, Castle of Glass, Roads Untraveled, and War. Of those, War is the only one with a G5 chord in it (JDM/IBG have G octaves, but Brad's clearly using his ring finger on the A string in the picture). Not sure how this came up in relation to Fort Minor, but yeah.

Mike specifically refers to it as something they did "the other day," so possibly (this is another thing that rules out the Machine Shop acoustic performance - that was well over a month ago, not "the other day"). However most "studio" pictures Mike posts, that one included, are just from the band's weekly meetings (Mondays) at his house. This sounds like something that was recorded in a more professional environment...not saying they couldn't have done it at Mike's but the vocal production and the clarity of the acoustic guitar don't sound consistent with other stuff they've recorded there.

...I have no idea where the hell people are getting that this was recorded at the Machine Shop acoustic show, but this is CLEARLY not a live recording. Mike harmonizes with himself at numerous points in this. This is 100% a re-recorded studio version. Almost the entire first post in this thread is one giant assumption.

I don't think any of the other 5 members are remotely competent at playing a full drum kit. Everyone else could probably move around easily though. Mike can do almost everything Joe does, Phoenix is allegedly about on par with Brad in guitar skills, Brad did a bunch of the bass on Hybrid Theory, Rob could play keys...I guess that leaves Chester on drums and *gulp* Joe on lead vocals.

Song sections refer to more than just vocals...the music in the pre-chorus is completely different from what's found on the EP.

Explicit lyrics don't always guarantee that an album will get a Parental Advisory label. There's a general list of guidelines that the RIAA has for when to use one, but even then, it's ultimately up to the record label whether or not they deem it necessary. The presence of the PA label is what retailers ultimately look at when it comes to whether or not they want to stock one or both versions of an album. Clean versions only exist for the purpose of distributing music to retailers like Walmart that won't sell anything with a PA sticker on it. No PA sticker = no need to make a clean version.

I think all of the samples are "in there" somewhere but they arrange everything in a sequential playlist so when one song is over it just automatically goes to the samples for the next one. Brad's effects patches are set up that way (they actually were as far back as Meteora, before they were even using amp modeling), Joe's samples are set up that way, the FX chains at FOH are done that way, etc...Rob probably could have "found" the APFMH samples for either of those performances if he really wanted to, but someone would have to scroll all the way through the current song list to the "unorganized" files and find them, which probably just isn't worth the trouble for something as inconsequential as the one APFMH trigger sample.

Forgotten's verse bassline is something like this: |------------------------------------------------------------------| |---------2-------3-----2--------------------------------5---------| |-----------------------------3-------3---3---2--------------------| |-5------------------------------------------------3-----------3---| Plays something completely different from the guitars at the end of the bridge too, IIRC.

Not even close. Pit for Carnivores was in the $90ish range.