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Not sure if this was the case for anybody else, but my download of Jeff Makes Observations had a very noticeable glitch at about the 57 second mark - the track essentially skips backwards by almost exactly a second. I've managed to correct this glitch, if it's something on iTunes' end and doesn't end up being fixed, I'd gladly share the corrected version with anyone who needs it. Obviously a "wait and see" type thing at this point though, I'm not about to post an official track without it being approved first, but if it ends up being an issue that doesn't get fixed, I think it'd be worth making an exception for. Anybody else's copy of this song have the same problem?
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Louder synths, quieter guitars, slightly different effects on the vocals.
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Wow, even White Noise is an alternate mix from what was previously released. I don't think they left anything "untouched" from what we originally heard of this soundtrack.
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I'd be surprised if they ever had access to recording equipment during the brief time they were together. If Mike's 4-track Tascam cassette recorder was the best option Xero had to work with a couple years later...yeah.They wrote like 10 songs with the sole goal of playing a show at the Whisky, and broke up when that goal was accomplished.
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Anyone with a functioning set of ears can tell all of these are fake within 5 seconds. Most of them have been around for a while. Relative Degree was a funk/rock/ska band in the vein of 311, per Rob. None of these tracks sound remotely like that, not to mention the musicianship displayed in some of them is stuff Brad and Rob probably aren't capable of NOW, let alone when they were in fucking high school.
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Lots of changed song titles, most of the more "risque" titles have been modified, usually to refer to characters by name where they weren't before. They also changed the antagonist's name from "Malc" to "Mal" for some reason (his full name is Malcom, regardless). The song order is also much more consistent with the order of the movie scenes, while the original tracklisting from Shazam was pretty jumbled-up. "Enter Mall Wireframes" > "Mall Blueprint" "Malc RX7" > "Mal RX7" "Perv in Police Car - Malc Gears Up" > "Danny in Police Car - Mal Gears Up" "Malc Gives Barry Second Chance - Malc Unloads" > "Mal Gives Barry Second Chance - Mal Unloads" "Mall Carnage - Malc Stalked" > "Mall Carnage - Mal Stalked" *NOTE* There's a typo in the first post on this one, it should be "Mal Stalked," as in the character, not "Mall." "Perv Lucky Day" > "Danny's Lucky Day" "Jeff Philosophises to Milf" > "Jeff Philosophises to Donna" "Milf Kiss" > "Jeff and Donna Connect" "Adele Rapes Perv" > "Adele and Danny in the Backseat" "Malc vs. Helicopter" > "Mal vs. Helicopter" "Porn Comes to Life - Malc and Jeff" > "TV Comes to Life - Mal and Jeff" "Jeff and Perv Go Home" > "Danny Goes Home"
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It's the verse guitar part from Numb/Encore.
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Wastelands: John Lennon - Power to the People [Reference] Until it Breaks: Notorious B.I.G. - Just Playing (Dreams) [Reference] Hands Held High: Jean-Paul Sartre - The Devil and the Good Lord (1951 play)
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So the software used to create a song is now a determining factor in what does and does not constitute a "Linkin Park song?" I guess the Xero tracks are unofficial then, since they were recorded on a cassette 4-track in Mike's bedroom before they had access to Pro Tools. Issho Ni was officially released as a Linkin Park song on the second Download to Donate compilation... You guys do realize there are a TON of songs on official Linkin Park albums that had zero input from multiple members of the band, right? Cure for the Itch, Session, The Messenger, a bunch of stuff on Reanimation and Recharged...
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Good time for some "Astat guessing," as you put it... Even if you add up every known performance from 2002 and earlier, including every cancelled date AND every pre-Linkin Park name change show (including the Relative Degree show), you get a grand total of...314. There are obviously a lot of shows from the first half of 2000 and earlier that we probably don't know about, but still...LP toured far more vigorously in support of Hybrid Theory than they did for any other album. You can make every excuse in the world, and there's practically no way you can feasibly even come CLOSE to the fabricated total of 324 shows, even if you're accounting for the entire 2000-2002 period and not the 2001 calendar year. I have no idea where that total came from or who was smoking what when they decided to print it as fact, but it's hilariously inaccurate.
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Wrong information/Mistakes in official material
Astat replied to lpliveusername's topic in Everything Linkin Park
That one may be a correct early title for that song for all we know, hard to say since it's a title that doesn't appear in the song's lyrics. Yep, "The Cure for Mr. Hahn's Itch" = CFTI, and Pushing Me Away should just be under its usual title. Not necessarily. The lyrics in the booklet are usually transcribed from printed lyrics provided by the band. There's always the possibility of a lyrical change happening without being written down, so the "incorrect" version may have never been recorded. Possible though. The weird thing about Crawling is that even the demo version has the "these wounds, they will not heal" line in it, so it'd be kind of strange for that line to have changed to "consuming all I feel," only to be changed back to what it was in the first place. I guess weirder things have happened though. -
They're already (quite noticeably at times) using Auto Tune on his voice during the show itself these days, and on top of that, every Ethan Mates mix of a show to date has been HEAVILY edited (the Mexico 2012 DVD included with the special edition of THP in particular is a complete joke). It didn't used to be that noticeable a few years ago, but they've gotten a lot more obvious with it since Living Things came out. Final Masquerade is typically one of Chester's worst live songs...he usually sings that one flatter than pre-baby Gwen Stefani.
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That's what happens when you have a month and a half to edit a recording to make it as perfect as possible.
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Wrong information/Mistakes in official material
Astat replied to lpliveusername's topic in Everything Linkin Park
Crawling lyrics in the Hybrid Theory booklet and Remember the Name lyrics in the Rising Tied booklet (one of Tak's verses has 2 lines that are completely different from what ended up on the album) come to mind. There are a few promo CDs with typos on track titles and stuff like that too. -
"LP isn't holding true to their "visceral" tag because they aren't playing the songs I want to hear even though some of them are less heavy than these songs that I'm sick of hearing." I don't see how you can make a legitimate argument that WTCFM, WFTE, In My Remains, and Until It's Gone are more "visceral" than In the End, Numb, or What I've Done. You're just sick of hearing singles and electronic stuff, so you'll throw labels on shit that doesn't actually apply to it so you have another excuse to peddle your opinion. Remember the MTM/ATS era when LP would have like 6 to 8 slow songs in a row in the middle of every set and how much everyone hated it? What's left of that? They condensed LOATR/SOTD/Iridescent from 3 songs totaling about 14 minutes to a 5-minute medley. They dropped Breaking the Habit. They're playing a version of Castle of Glass with INFINITELY more energy than the original version (yes, it's electronic, but you're delusional if you think the put-you-to-sleep live version of the original COG had more energy). A bunch of other softer-dynamic songs like Burning in the Skies, In Pieces, TLTGYA, In My Remains, Jornada Del Muerto, and even The Catalyst haven't lasted in the set. Meanwhile, the last couple album cycles have seen the returns of Somewhere I Belong, Points of Authority, With You, Runaway (or at least part of it), Lying From You...plus you have Rebellion, Wastelands, and GATS in the set currently. Yes, there could be more songs off the current album in there. Yes, the shortened songs are a bummer. But this is objectively the heaviest setlist LP has played since before Minutes to Midnight. The "slow shit" doesn't occupy HALF of the setlist space that it did 5-7 years ago. The Ballad Medley is the ONLY weak link in there in terms of being so soft that it kills the energy of the show. Everything else has its place, and the other issues plaguing the setlist (certain songs that shouldn't be shortened, Crawling being pointless and terrible, SIB/LFY being way too late in Set have NOTHING to do with the energy of the song selection. If you hate the song selection, fine. But don't dance around it by saying the set would magically be better with fucking In My Remains in it instead of In the End, ROFL.
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Ohio finally gets a show that isn't in Cincinnati, only took 6 years!
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I didn't realize singles and shortened songs were incapable of falling into the "rock" category.
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To clarify, Brad wears gun range headphones with soundproof foam inserts inside them, and ear plugs underneath that. He's the only member of the band who isn't on IEM's, so he's the sole reason they still have wedge monitors on stage (they're underneath the "crates" at the front of the stage). There are also a couple bigger speakers on either side of the stage pointed sideways for him. The only thing that perplexes me about this is the live version of Lies Greed Misery. Brad starts that song with the pad samples, but he can't hear the click, so how does he get the tempo? Blinking light on the Maschine somewhere? I have no idea, lol.
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The MTV Ultimate Mashups TV special (which was also on the DVD) has the It's Goin' Down portion of the medley at the beginning, and at least one of the Collision Course tracks (Numb/Encore) is the alternate take. I'm not sure which of the two takes was ultimately used for the "main feature" on the DVD, but they at least found both versions of that one song usable. I haven't really compared the others.
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Double post that will probably get merged automatically, but http://lplive.net/shows/db/fortminor/20060128- Little Brother didn't play at this show. They were there for the rest of the tour, but had to cancel this date for some reason.
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I think another reason DSPs haven't sold well in recent years is downloads.linkinpark.com requires Java, Firefox automatically blocks Java (not sure about other browsers), and it's an absolute pain in the ass to figure out the workaround for it. I spent almost an hour figuring this out a while ago. Hard to sell DSPs when most people won't even know how to get your website that sells them to work.
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The drums on After Canada may be programmed, I'm not totally sure. A lot of the demos on this CD have "iffy" drums. Definitely sounds like Brad's work with some of the guitar stuff though. Mike/Brad is the most common songwriting duo LP has (at least in terms of the creation of early demos, once vocals come into play it's primarily Mike/Chester), so they were probably getting together at Mike's house and working on stuff a lot while the band wasn't touring.
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Where the hell do you keep getting that Basquiat had anything to do with Fort Minor? The quote in the LPU XIII booklet is "This was a track I originally started just after I finished the Fort Minor album." Fort Minor was done already when Basquiat was started, it was intended to be a Linkin Park demo and nothing else.
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The digital booklet is just several pages of James Jean artwork. No song notes, no credits, nothing. Song titles aren't even listed on it anywhere. I wonder, didn't Joe say the band went through a big batch of old demos when they were deciding what to use on the Mall soundtrack? Maybe some of the songs they didn't end up using for the movie ended up on LPU XIV. *Edit* Giving things another listen, and I can't believe nobody's pointed this out - Malathion has no bass whatsoever in it. Weird.