hahninator

We are looking to add info for more of the PT songs to Linkinpedia. If anyone has any specific info, like the video of Mike talking about the World's On Fire sample live, link it up. Interviews where he mentions songs, etc. We want to flesh out the song pages. Anything you think that'd be good to go on the pages.

Up to 9 vinyls so far. http://linkinpedia.com/index.php?title=Amends#Gallery 2 CDs, but combo packages with CDs, a DVD, books, etc. Obviously with that many vinyls there are many ways to package the album. So we are at a higher amount of OFFERINGS of the album, by far the most I have seen from any band. Maybe 15-16 offerings?

Absolutely comical Sean said LP is "eerily silent" and thinks it's weird LP is not promoting the album. Is he really that stupid? I guess he is.

How is there any correlation between what Mike releases and sells as a solo artist versus a band that has come out of nowhere in 2017 trying to make money on a remix album by selling as many unique physical editions as possible by branding it with the man who has passed away? 7+ vinyls? All of their socials and streaming platforms using only CB images, running wild in the press saying it is a LOST ALBUM?

All very solid points. Yeah, we will promote anything Mike does because he hasn't done anything to disrespect fans on a large scale basis. But yes, you're right. IMO I would assume we will get much more of Chester's stuff in the future that we've never heard before. Whether it's LP, Dead By Sunrise, collabs with people like Slash, etc. While these vocals have been heard for the most part, I think all of the vaults are too deep for us to not get a lot of stuff in the years to come. edit: Yes, Sean clarified that. But Chester's family (everyone except Talinda's side) still runs with that narrative 100% and that is who GD intentionally chose to film to promote their album. Doesn't sit right with me.

So when they were recording the album of course there are different vocal takes for the songs. I believe what happened was, if I can get the story straight from the interviews they've given, someone found all the master tapes in their attic of all the multitracks. I forgot who it was, someone here knows I'm sure. Anyway so Sean says they mixed in some of the alternate takes/demo vocal takes for some of these songs. It all started with them building the songs from the vocals FIRST, so they'd edit the hell out of the vocal tracks to make them, then add music later. Now I don't know if Sean said that to just bullshit people and sell more albums, but I am inclined to believe him on that topic at least. Some of you tech savvy people can tell us if you hear differences in the vocals of some of the songs or not. Well, despite how strongly I don't want it to be in the Newswire, I can't stiff-arm the rest of the staff into not posting about updates on a project that features an LP member, no matter what my personal feelings are on it. We agreed absolutely no social media for this because of a wide variety of reasons (some of which include we will not be promoting anyone who trashes Mike in the press) but I think it's a bit excessive if I try to stiffly demand/rule that the project can't be talked about at all on the forums. We talk about all sorts of stuff here, no matter how people feel about it. Like for example, we have the thread on Mace printing fake Grey Daze CDs at his home, selling them signed on eBay for thousands of dollars, and arguing with LP fans saying they were authentic. No matter how negatively we feel about it personally we have to draw the line and say "this is an LP fansite, it's applicable to at least some of the fans so we need to allow it here." Just because JZLP and Subs disagree with us on it doesn't mean they are bad people by any means. They have some fair points at times, like when we'd post GD for years and unveil studio sessions, demos, live shows, etc. But that was before things turned for the worst with Sean turning into a true dick. I noticed you saw that Grey Daze used the "for the fans by the fans" LPLive tag on their album listening party, ha. Yes, agreed about the LP Ambassadors. They ripped the entire group to a new group (without asking anyone to join, they just added everyone to a group - half of them were added by just asking fans to sign up for email updates from Grey Daze and then they randomly demanded these fans promote their album as "Grey Daze Ambassadors") and said promote this stuff. Then blocked fans after cussing at them on social media if they voiced even the slightest concern. They are psychos. I made a private Facebook post about the band on my Facebook page, somehow someone sent it to Sean so he tracked me down and emailed me, private messaged me, and tried to add me. So I sent the label a 10+ paragraph email about how the entire project is a disaster, how the band is going off the rails with social media and using their band platform to try and disparage Linkin Park fans with inappropriate language, how any efforts by the label to promote the album were being wasted because of the actions of the band, how insanely inappropriate it is for them to use Linkin Park Underground material to promote the album and sell Linkin Park images in multiple stores, how much of a cash grab it looks when they sell 8-10 vinyl versions of the album after coming out of nowhere, how the band is straight up lying and acting like absolute morons in the press publicly and even going along with/insinuating Chester was not happy in Linkin Park aka changing the LP band narrative, and how they are using the exact people to promote the album who: 1) said Mike Shinoda is profiting off of Chester's death by playing "In the End" live 2) destroy Talinda 24/7/365 with lies all across social media 3) destroy Linkin Park, their band's management, and record label, saying the Hollywood Bowl show was an extremely disrespectful show to Chester 4) lie by saying Chester was not allowed to use social media at all unless the record label approved each tweet 5) lie by saying Chester and Mike were not friends at all 6) lie by saying Chester was bullied by Mike the entire duration of Linkin Park's career and he had no voice of his own in the band Like it or not, these people are the face of the promotion for the album and that is a 100% fact and it taints the entire project and paints it in a TERRIBLE light. They didn't even have the audacity to reply to the email at all. Nothing. No response. I am shocked Talinda hasn't come out and told these guys to fuck off. Honestly surprised Mike hasn't said "we aren't supporting this straight BS at all" too.

Linkin Park later on traveled in two groups to the shows. It is extremely common for almost every large touring band to have a host city on tour where they stay at one hotel in one city then fly in and out for the shows. Sometimes you'll keep the same host city all tour, sometimes you change it 2-3 times. For example, Metallica would use Nashville as a host city when touring the southeast. They fly to Charlotte, play the show, bam then they fly right back to Nashville to sleep in the same bed. People from Foo to Coldplay to LP to Metallica to U2 to Rolling Stones etc do this. When you bring your family on tour it makes it easier for them to also stay in one place and not change hotels every single show. In Europe for the later part of the band's career it was Mike, Chester, and Dave in one city and then Joe, Rob, and Brad in another. It could be the first group is in Paris and the second is in Copenhagen, or one group is in Berlin and the other is in Brussels. It changes every tour and sometimes changes mid tour too depending on the routing, so maybe you stay in 2 hotels during the tour. One common theme has been the band staying in Berlin a lot over the years which Mike has talked about at length in interviews, calling it a "home away from home" for him and Anna. So it just makes sense for the 3 of them to fly in to a show together and fly back, then the other 3 fly in together and fly back. This means Mike and Joe hypothetically won't see each other from show 3 to show 4 until they arrive preshow. If you look at Joe's "Carry On" exhibit from Europe 2017, you'll see some photos of the band traveling in groups on planes, etc to the shows. I believe that indeed, you see Mike, Phoenix, and Chester together at times. In the USA, sometimes they'd fly on helicopters to shows in the northeast region. In the WORST CASE scenario, this also helps prevent the entire band being lost at one time if the 0.000000000001% chance of a disaster or catastrophe happens, so that the other group can continue on with the band's affairs in the future. Early on, they were on tour buses and all that but MTM is when they shifted to flying to shows.

Sure. The issue is the GD assholes cussing out and blocking the Ambassadors and refusing to listen to them, while hijacking the entire group to try and get them to promote this album on the backs of the exact same people affected by those in the GD promo who trashed Shinoda in the press. The cash grab is the every coloured vinyl, 100 merch items, Linkin Park material for sale and in the promo, intentionally distorting facts in the press, etc.

Maybe if the band didn’t cuss out and block LP Ambassadors like a bunch of psychos, didn’t run 1,000 merch items for a cash grab, didn’t use Linkin Park to promote the project, and didn’t use those who said Mike was profiting off of Chester’s death to promote the project, sure. They can go fuck themselves. Truly terrible people, sorry you don't see it that way. I wish you’d read some of the DMs they were sending people. About as blatantly disrespectful to Chester’s legacy as it gets.

That’s very strange as that text was taken straight from his Instagram. We didn’t change anything.

I didn't even know what it was when I saw it in May 2015, I texted Dylan that they were playing a brand new song lmao

None of the vocals for any of the songs were recorded after the original Grey Daze album sessions in the 1990s.

Hey at least you guys have something to argue about, haha

Well I mean despite how it is released, this is actually Mike's song with Steve Aoki because Mike wrote the song and then sent it to Steve. I know how it's released is Steve featuring Mike, because sometimes that's how it works when it's released by another artists. Look at Martin Garrix, that's really Linkin Park (Mike, Chester, Brad, Joe, etc) featuring Martin Garrix but was released as Martin Garrix featuring Mike. Very technical I know but I just wanted to point out that this is Mike's song. I think upon first listen the track falls between ALTNC and DTB for me. I didn't like either song for years until I saw ALTNC at the Hollywood Bowl and thought it was an absolute jam.

What if I think Post Traumatic was better than One More Light and The Hunting Party? lol

Rock am Ring 2004? That beat was awesome.

Where did he say that? DL link is in YouTube video description of the song. Or scroll back in Shoutbox and it’s in there.

Has nothing to do with it being a photo of Chester. Has to do with the band involved in the photo.

I will gladly take the blame from any fans who feel the need to complain about it. It's absolutely a problem they used an LPU photo of Chester on Projekt Revolution 2007 to try and sell this project. Re: Credits. They had it properly licensed from Jim Louvau. They chose from a gallery of stuff he shot of Chester and LP. The licensing/crediting part of it was not the issue.

That isn't true flac I think, right? Just a rip of the YouTube source?

That's a pretty hot take. Went to Silversun Pickups two nights ago in Asheville and last night in Atlanta. Great shows.

Hmm upload to Sendspace and drop a link maybe. Not sure what is up with photos. Can take a look into it. Have you tried attaching files?

The HT era absolutely was in the 90s. 1999 is when Chester joined the band and they began writing songs immediately. Some were on the HTEP, some were unreleased, and some made HT. The entire album exists in demo form from May 2000. They didn’t just start writing those songs and recording them in January 2000. It absolutely stretches back to 1999 for the the tracks. There weren’t two separate Chester eras at the start - “1999” and “2000-2002.” It’s all one big HT era. HT is the only album that’s turning 20. When did Metallica start doing their box sets? 20 or 25? I don’t think you should assume they won’t do any box sets if the oldest album is only 20 and LP isn’t even in the RARHOF yet. This collection could be some sort of online digital collection or something. We will see what they’re doing. I’m going to offer to send some LPL material over to them.

So it sounds like the demo is titled "Open Door", from the update he sent recently.

Ed has been around for quite a long time. Check his Instagram. He’s in all of the OML webcasts. He was with CB for a while.