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Did you miss Faint? M Shadows sang Faint too. I would have had no issue with the RTR set if they had kept RME around for PR08 for the DSPs, or released some Europe 2008 DSPs. That was a really cool thing they did to play a Xero song live and besides LPU6, they missed a lot of opportunities to showcase that. The RME on LPU6 is epic. Across the Line is a tremendous song and probably my favorite non-album song in their catalogue. The Jay-Z thing... he had them turn all the computers off, put phones up, turn cameras off, etc and went in to the booth and dropped a legendary freestyle at the end of the Collision Course sessions. Would have been cool to have had that as a bonus with the album or something... add LP to it and make it a track. Anyway my point is Jay-Z didn't want to do it at that time. In 2005 Mike said he didn't have him on TRT because he respected Jay-s retirement. I think their relationship wasn't that great when Jay returned to music. Just a missed opportunity in 2004 like you said. 2016 - OML was on track for a second half 2016 release aka LP would have toured, but of course Chester had to go to rehab... no one can control that unfortunately. I'm sure LP never intended to take the full year off.

I feel like the Live in Texas idea wasn't bad. They didn't know in summer 2003 they were going to do a summer 2004 tour probably. They knew they were going to an arena tour that winter, though. Those shows were epic but I do like the SS03 sets a lot. That's the only stadium tour they've ever done in the USA. The thing is just so popular I'd have a hard time imagining them not doing it lol Astat has some good ones. Hybrid Theory in full only one time - at Download 2014 - when Chester went on to say directly afterward how he hates playing when the sun is still up, etc... ouch lol. The songs didn't stick around afterward (or get warmed up on tour beforehand). The club tour idea was a much, much better idea. However, who knows, maybe they were thinking about doing that in 2020 at one point. But the 2014 thing was a big missed opportunity to celebrate Hybrid Theory in a bigger way. I remember Chester saying he wanted some of the HT rarer songs to get played on the Carnivores Tour... I guess he got overruled by the band. DSP thing definitely sucks since it got cut in 2013 and I felt like it was never marketed correctly or strongly. At least give one show a year to the LPU or something. Or a "best of THP Tour" to the LPU. Lots of missed opportunities. I wouldn't call it a top 5 mistake the band has ever done, though. The LPU CD doesn't bother me much either because we have gotten so many demos and songs through the LPU that we wouldn't have gotten otherwise. They release way more than any other band I've seen except Metallica (but Met is doing the album box sets). The LPU/LP community being disbanded several times was disappointing, sure. Not a top 5 mistake to me either though. Well hell, it could be lol It's hard for me to think of the biggest mistakes they've ever done if I don't know the other side of it and what could have happened / what ideas were proposed at certain times that weren't used. How about this for one? Linkin Park didn't go out on the Eminem and 50 Cent stadium tour in summer 2005 that was proposed. Could have had Jay-Z sit in at some of the shows for more Collision Course performances. https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/64383/eminem-50-linkin-park-eyeing-tour Maybe if the LP vs WBR problem didn't happen which pretty much helped influence Mike to do Fort Minor... we could have seen something like that. But Rising Tied is pretty great. Whatever happened with Michael Bay and Transformers with Until It's Gone was a mess. But one song doesn't make it a top 5 bad decision to me, it's just one really bad song lol Living Things tour being so short was baffling to me too. They got to South Africa but Europe missed out big time and the USA needed a second run.

https://www.pscp.tv/paparoach/1mnxeQvQyNaxX Replay there

Man yeah those were so cool.

Yeah. He said in PT Tour interviews he had presented LP with the songs to release under Fort Minor and LP was good with it all, and he was going to release “several” songs in fall 2017. Definitely Lift Off was one but IOU could have been another. He’s spoken about this 2-3 times.

Yeah, like over 10 years ago. Maybe 2009 he did that on Twitter. Don't have screenshots of that. It happens, not everyone will see things the same. We're just fans and he knew Mike personally so obviously he has a huge leg up on knowing what the deal is. SOB definitely had a reason to be upset that things didn't work out on Machine Shop but I have always thought blaming Mike for some of their problems hasn't been the best move.

Ha. Similarly, when I'd plug my iPhone into my car via USB, A-Six would always play first no matter what. So now I'm quite sick of the riff.

Not that surprising to hear but of course good to see Phoenix say it. My suspicion is they've been meeting regularly to work on musical ideas since the end of the Post Traumatic Tour in March 2019. Would be nice to hear from them in 2021.

https://old.reddit.com/r/LinkinPark/comments/g5imni/ryu_on_fort_minor/ Someone asked about this on Facebook so I'll copy/paste my reply here. If I left anything out let me know. The question was: "Ryu said ‘’ the mixtape was better anyways!’’ when he discussed Fort Minor’s album The Rising Tied. He also discussed how he never received royalties for being on the album. Why did he say these things? Does he not like Mike or the album anymore? Does anyone know?" My reply: "Ryu has been vocal on Facebook recently about these topics, which is the source of the OP's comments. My understanding of it is Mike would of course pay SOB (and other guests) for the guest spots on the album but then they don't get paid consecutively after it if any of the songs go on and end up doing well. Basically you aren't paid twice for the same song. Well it turns out Remember the Name ended up exploding, and yeah they are a bit disappointed the song is MASSIVE and they never saw an increase in money from that. Just depends how they set up the agreement back in 2005. You could of course also blame them for that themselves if they weren't smart enough to negotiate a better deal. Anyway these comments are public on Ryu's Facebook if you want to go read them. Next, Ryu said he wants an award for Remember the Name doing so well. It sold whatever the number is to get an award. Basically it boiled down to Mike could "push it through if he wanted to" but they said Mike has so many awards he doesn't know what to do with so he'd have no real incentive to get ANOTHER one made. Ha. LP's former manager Rob McDermott is even on the thread commenting saying he wants one too. Wild. Some of the comments trash Mike but Ryu and Rob never do that, they just want awards made (+ money). Ryu has made similar threads like this over the years. Lastly, there was not a huge fall out but there was of course drama around the "Welcome" song in 2015 with Fort Minor. Ryu recorded a verse, thought he was going to be on the song, and it would be released as Fort Minor and he would be involved in the reunion. Mike ended up cutting the verse without telling him, then later told Ryu it would be on a remix of the song that ended up not coming out as we all know. Ryu was also there for the art mural/music video filming for the song too so understandable he thought he was fully involved in everything. Kind of sucks for him in that regard since on Recharged he dropped the line saying he wanted to do a "Fort Minor part 2" in his verse. http://linkinpedia.com/index.php?title=Welcome And if Ryu/SOB were not on the Fort Minor comeback in 2015 or the Fort Minor comeback in 2017 that was planned (Lift Off, IOU, etc before Chester passed away), I wouldn't hold your breath for Mike making music with them again. All signs right now point to Mike working with Linkin Park as Phoenix just said they have been writing music. Mike has not been close to Tak since 2007~ish I think, I mean Tak thoroughly destroyed Mike on social media for months before he disappeared online. He and SOB were very hostile about the situation with Warner Bros... Mike signed them to Machine Shop to get the Styles of Beyond album released, Warner shelved it, Ryu said Mike was too busy on an LP world tour (Minutes to Midnight) to pay attention and get it resolved for them, and then Mike had to successfully negotiate with the label to get Styles released from under the grasp of Warner. What a mess. The album came out much later of course but the damage was done. Listen to "I Did It to Myself", the solo song by Ryu, where he talks about it. And of course WBR cashed in on "Second to None" featuring Mike that was on the Transformers soundtrack but wouldn't let the album come out. Ouch. I bet it ruined any shot of Mike considering them all a part of Fort Minor in the future due to the big mess it caused, but that's just speculation. If I forgot anything someone feel free to add more info."

Thank you! While we have Linkinpedia for facts, it's also important Wikipedia is correct too since it has so many people using it so feel free to always copy over factual information to Wikipedia from Linkinpedia whenever you want.

Oh yeah he has been tremendous lately. Right now we are doing audio first, so he sent me his audio collection. Next, I am getting the collection from nkramar to cross reference with it. SergSlim will see what he has to fill in, etc. It's going well so far, it's just me that is slow with properly tagging, naming, etc the shows and finding the best quality version out there so far for each show.

Phoenix's comments in the stream are pretty applicable to this thread. "We're not done. We're not done. Band-wise, or team-wise, we're not done. The chip on your shoulder comes from the fact that anybody who has any type of success has met with that exact same adversity. You can't get to any spot of success without people telling you either what you're doing is wrong or you're doing it incorrectly or that it'll never work. If you get to that space where you rise above & push past that, you're going to remember that and hopefully it fuels you."

The And One performance is badass.

It'll always be their final album with Chester, their final chapter with him. We can't suddenly expect them to end their career as a band because of something that didn't involve them. They had no choice over what ended up happening with the band.

What?

That's right. There is no way we can figure this out on our own. We'll need to get LP's archives of this stuff to get it correct.

Yeah. Best version so far. Looks like the audio still isn’t perfect but what can we do, ha. Better than nothing.

Back in 2017, Linkin Park kicked off the One More Light touring cycle with an epic show in Buenos Aires, Argentina to an electric crowd. The show saw live debuts in a brand new setlist as the band began its shows for the new album. Check out the show page for the full rundown. The show was webcasted, but Vorterix has now uploaded the full quality HD broadcast of the show nearly three years later! Check it out!

Ha. It's no secret the MPC stuff that leaked was like, from his main sample database. He took the exact ATS samples from that to do the ATS style demo, etc. Pretty cool. But only Mike can combine them into a masterpiece, lmao. They are almost useless to us.

For those of you who don't believe Sean is a motherfucker to people on Facebook, this is just from today where he tries to push his revisionist narrative on everyone.

Why is the band reporting legitimate eBay auctions of GD material as fake and fraudulent to get eBay to take them down? Why is the band blocking the sale of legitimate material on Discogs? If they are worried about counterfeit items, Mace himself is who printed the fakes and sold them after arguing with the LP community about them. The items being blocked and reported by GD now are actually legitimate items. Why are they removing every video of past material from YouTube? Cash grab 100%. Haven’t ever seen a band exhibit behavior like this. They are nuts.

That's great, but the proper one fell out of circulation so we are trying to get this (and more sources) back into real circulation among traders and collectors. Working on a big "LP Drive" right now to do exactly that.

As far as we know, they never re recorded any of those songs with Chester besides Rhinestone. Some of those songs may have been on the Xero audition tape that Chester recorded vocals for, though.

Disappointed to hear about Looking For An Answer. Loved the studio version he was making, and I bet it would sound great with the full band. If a song like Over Again can be so impactful still, I feel like LFAA could be great. The question is... will LP play LFAA live when they return? If so, you'd think a studio version would come out at some point. As much as I thought the idea of giving it to the LPU was a waste, maybe that's what it needs. Like QWERTY.

I actually didn't expect Mike to be working with a rock artist. Rock would have been the last genre I guessed, since he's doing so much work with artists that make hip hop music and electronic music.