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I can't believe not even 48 hours after this thread was made, Sean was showing his ass on social media again cussing out LP fans - AGAIN. LMAO. It is just comedy at this point.

The instrumentals, sure, were from 1998 but with Chester's 1999 vocals I don't think that necessarily makes the demo need a 1998 tag lol

The Crawling merch is epic. RIP wallet.

We've never known the answer to that. We should ask Mike on his stream about it.

Yeah. Remember it well. For now, LPLive Archive on YouTube is the best bet for shows, almost everything is streamable there. However, we do have an LPLive project in the works, maybe with the same name, maybe different, to host all of the shows on a server. Audio first, then video. I actually finished all of 2000 and started on 2001 but then a few months ago I got distracted on all of the Linkinpedia stuff. So I edited like, thousands of wiki pages for a long time. I need to get back with it.

The really bland instrumental of Mike's from the MPC... there are kids talking. Still can't figure out who they are or what it samples. "Anyone who can play music on a piano like he does must know vast amounts of interesting things No one plays music on the piano the way Roger does That's true" "His what? His penis What's a penis?" Any guesses? Thought it was 101 Dalmations at first since Roger plays piano but couldn't find anything to match it up to.

Didn't they say it was one of the band member's kids? Mike's son maybe? Because they couldn't clear the Frozen clip they wanted to use. The sample at the end of Summoning is a tee ball sample of a kid playing. Sounds like Brad.

I agree but it also will have to do with new LP music. If LP Album #8 drops in 2021, then Album #9 drops in May~ 2023, that's going to run right into Meteora. The band will have to strategically plan around it, although it honestly isn't even hard to do. You turn the album in and it comes out 5 months later, it's really easy to say "ok that will be 2 months" or "that'll be 6 months" in order to not drop the specific month before, of, or after the box sets. Seems easy enough to get around. Great point about them being spaced so far apart that there is going to be enough of a demand for the next album's box set by then. Meteora has a chance to be absolutely insane, maybe even better than Hybrid Theory if we can believe that.

Makes sense about the first part. The second part is absolutely true but we know now that WBR puts the ball in LP's court on literally everything; the band doesn't even have album deadlines anymore. LP picks the singles, everything. LP doesn't have 100.00% freedom with WBR, but it's really damn close. Warner not releasing a Greatest Hits of LP in 2005 is surprising, but it's good that they didn't. Ever since LT, things have been MUCH better with the label and LP. They aren't going to release something until LP tells them to.

Warner doesn't own Xero or Hybrid Theory EP music, right? Those were independent releases by the band, some of the stuff was re-released on Warner so the band probably just allowed them to do that. None of that was on Warner, the original releases. Then you get into like And One being on Songs from the Underground etc. How does this all work, am I wrong? I noticed all of the HTEP songs are on BMI for the band's publishing. Reading My Eyes is the only Xero song on there, probably because of LPU 6. The band has such a good relationship with the label that doing any of this stuff is no issue, like reissuing old stuff. The band doesn't have to ask Kyle or anyone like that to reissue old stuff. Mark is like best friends with Mike and also is in the music business, he'd never object to this stuff either. The band doesn't HAVE to consult with him but they probably DID just because of how classy and respectful LP is in general.

Here's why it isn't a cash grab. Yes, it has enough value to warrant the price. You are getting studio Xero demos with Mark (completely unheard/unreleased, we didn't even know some of these existed), a completely unknown Xero song, a completely unknown Hybrid Theory (band) song, Pictureboard which has been wanted for 15+ years desperately, an impressively good quality She Couldn't which was just mastered this year in 2020 standards for release, and more. Astat showed how many CDs on IG Live that you'd need to known to have all of the B-Side Rarities in one collection - it's a lot. The LPU Rarities, I mean the LPU CDs are selling for insane prices right now. The Hybrid Theory EP too, that thing is worth more than the value of this entire box set lol. Then DVD-wise, you're getting Frat Party which was out of print since 2002 but it looks like the music videos will be upscaled in better quality for the first time ever. You're getting Frat Party 2 which didn't even exist until this year, they literally just made it out of all of the unseen 2002 video footage the band has. Live show wise, you have Fillmore 2001 which is completely unreleased (potato quality of With You/OSC mostly full is on YouTube and that's it)... it's the band's first headlining tour ever which means it's oldschool and raw as hell. Should be quite epic. You have Rock am Ring 2001 on here in master quality, a big quality upgrade which is unreleased/unseen. Could even be different angles on it, who knows. Then Projekt Revolution 2002 which is also totally unseen - only 1 real video exists from 2002 in viewable quality online (OSC from Colorado Springs). The value is easily $300-350+ on this and you're getting it for $200. How much is the band even making on this? Are they even turning much of a profit? Imagine printing cassettes in 2020, it can't be cheap. 80 page books. All those vinyls, etc. DVDs. So, if you were to manufacture all of that on your own, no, you're losing a lot of money, but there is probably a small profit margin somewhere that they are getting by mass producing everything in tens of thousands. So say the band earns $10-20 on every box set - that's nothing. A cash grab would be 67 different editions of this thing for sale. This is an all inclusive box set release and is actually quite undervalued as we discussed on IG Live. We paid over $2,000 for She Couldn't in 2009. We'd pay that right this minute for Pictureboard ALONE if the opportunity came up and there wasn't a box set coming. So $200? Sign me up all day. The problem with this statement is there is a substantial amount of unreleased stuff here. Studio demos, unheard of songs, Pictureboard, live shows, 80 page book with stuff from Rob's parents' storage, etc. None of that is rehashed. If you are referring to the demos, it isn't the band's fault fans like us leaked all of these demos lol. We should be glad they are putting Xero demos, Dialate and Could Have Been on here instead of taking those spots up with Plaster, Part of Me (Demo), Dust Brothers, etc. Some of the audio is "rehashed", sure, but you're getting it mastered and all inclusively on one release. The audio is just one part of the box.

Hey man! Thanks for the reply! That’s great, it seems legit then. Really had no idea where you got that info but every single other thing on that page checks out so this actually does seem totally good. It has very specific info on everything. That means you basically got the exclusive on the tracklists for the DVDs haha - very nice!

That’s a good point. They more than made up for any lost fans with MTM because MTM into New Divide was the peak of the band, they were bigger then than ever globally. More sold out shows on the MTM tour than any previous tour. Would love both a Meteora and MTM box set.

No. It isn’t confirmed he’s on the song, even. Astat found the sample of the song. Check the Linkinpedia page, it’s from Boogie Down Productions.

I am glad I waited because literally everyone says it totally sucks with Mark, haha. Definitely waiting on the Chester one.

We should do one of these where we do like an unboxing of the Hybrid Theory 20 release, and we discuss the songs and DVDs after we watch them once.

Thank you, we must have missed the last 2 Q&A summaries, we'll get to them ASAP. Yeah those 3 are must-haves. Not sure if they filmed MSG 2008, LP didn't start filming every single show until the ATS era. But SS06 and RAR07 are ABSOLUTE must haves for release. This was just a live show outro, maybe not a real track but again, Attached was used in that format in 2001 so you never know. That'd be great. Hopefully they do Meteora. HT20 is going to have to have very good sales for them to even consider it, most likely. My top ones are probably: 1. Thoughts That Take Away My Pride 2. No Roads Left w/ Chester 3. In Between w/ Chester 4. Friendly Fire 5. Rob's Meteora drum track If they have something with A-Six with vocals, that'd be great.

We can wait for the tracklisting times and tracklist so we have something to talk about between now and October, but martinez you're sure the DVD tracklisting you got is legit? That's a complete show, all 16 tracks.

The Gorge is amazing. I went there for Dave Matthews Band last year and it was a surreal experience - what a place. Indeed it's cool that in 2001 they had the back of the stage "open" so you could see through it and see the scenery behind it. Not sure who owns the video content there. Probably the venue actually.

Finally going to bed. Up for 21 hours on release day, all the way from the Twitter emojis starting until now. Honestly my favorite announcement day they have ever done. Linkin Park did so great.

Absolutely no spoilers until band announces.

Agreed. Example: For years we all assumed Brad didn’t do much in the band. Then we find out he’s the secret sauce, the mastermind producer in the studio around the ATS era. Lmao. LP was very involved on this.

Agreed. Example: For years we all assumed Brad didn’t do much in the band. Then we find out he’s the secret sauce, the mastermind producer in the studio around the ATS era. Lmao. LP was very involved on this.

Yes because they could get a #1 album from this. That’s a big reason. It’s also the huge blow out celebration box set for their biggest album ever. If they teased this for a week people would be disappointed. You’ve gotta go all out for Hybrid Theory. Plus the campaign is fun, I don’t see anything wrong with doing it now. What if they launch a preorder this week and we get hella content from now until October? As I said before, why are you assuming there’s just one disc? The promo literally just started, there’s way more to this than 12 demos. I’d be shocked if So Far Away isn’t on there. Let’s wait for the official announcement and see what it has.

It’s entirely possible some of the demos are different. Maybe they’re not. Maybe there is even more than one CD to this. We will have to wait for the official announcement, it’s hard not to speculate but we need to not expect things that could be false - like we have no idea if this is Chester’s audition tape BUT it could be. It also could be songs with Mark on vocals. Looking forward to whenever they announce it.