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Now this is interesting. Great that you brought this up. I doubt the LPU could ever release that, but it's something I want to see released by Korn one day. LP would have to clear it with Korn and I don't see a collaboration like that appearing on an LPU CD. But I forgot all about that track.... Na, don't put old SBDs on the LPU CDs anymore....let's see if our petition works.

There's no way they would allow The Catalyst lol

Recounting, 165 is correct. I should have counted this time, sorry. I was forgetting Seattle 2001 since we added it to the live guide after I made that list originally. 881 played, 884 listed. Now to count the real canceled shows vs the stupid rescheduled stuff. Let me remove some of that 2001/2004 nonsense.

I just counted manually by clicking each year page and adding up the shows themselves. Wrote it down and counted twice. There is room for error but this is what I have: 2000 (ONLY Linkin Park, no Pre-LP): 21, 35, 22, 12 = 90 2001: 165 2002: 21 2003: 18, 12, 24, 10, 11, 10 = 85 2004: 34, 10, 33 = 77 2005: 2 2006: 5 2007: 7 third encore, 10, 18, 32, 10, 11 = 88 2008: 11, 19, 18, 26 = 74 2009: 19 2010: 6, 16 (NOT COUNTING berlin rehearsal), 11 = 33 2011: 23 (counting sunrise rehearsal), 2 (NOT COUNTING june 2nd rehearsal), 17, 12 = 54 2012: 4 (NOT COUNTING may 5th rehearsal), 18, 24, 10 = 56 2013: 12 (counting the 2 person acoustic one), 6 = 18 2014: 5 (counting the 2 person one), 13, 30, 18 = 66 2015: 4, 8, 5, 11 = 28 Total: 881 You counted the rehearsals Thomas so with those it's 884. But 880 after 2015 is the exact amount of played LP shows IMO. FYI I subtracted those 3 rehearsals because those 3 are the only 3 in the entire live guide where fans were not there. The 2 at Third Encore we have setlist images from by Sean Paden, so we added them. The 3rd is Berlin 2010. LP must have invited label guests or some winners of a competition or something, because we have a pass for that by MLK. None of those 3 should be included IMO. But I counted Third Encore 2007 since those were released. I guess it's up to us to figure out exactly WHAT to include.

Agreed. The public transportation to get to Wantagh is hellacious, as we saw in 2012 and 2014. Definitely never seeing LP there again, it's just not worth the extreme hassle for this venue over an hour away from NYC.

Well I think it's important to know the exact 1,000th show AS Linkin Park. Including Hybrid Theory shows is impossible since they played so many we don't know of, even 42 label showcases + AZ/CA tour dates, etc. That already happened I'm sure, 1000 for HT + LP, but that's not very important. What we need is the LP number. Lmao it's very possible the 1,000th show could be a TV performance. We are counting all the 1 song performances, etc, too. It doesn't make sense to start excluding any shows because LP has done so many 3, 5, 6, 8 song performances over time, so let's just stick with it all. Quick 2001 stats (reposting here so I don't lose it): 164 shows. HT European Promo Tour: 3 full shows 1 TV appearance 1 radio appearance 1 TV appearance (after that) Total (of both): 5 live performances Street Soldiers Tour: 20 full shows 1 full festival show 1 soundcheck party set Total: 22 live performances Deftones European Tour: 19 full shows 1 TV appearance Total: 20 live performances US-to-Europe Tour: 21 total shows (split amongst headlining and festival/radio shows) Ozzfest: 45 total shows in that period (split amongst Ozzfest, OFFEST, radio shows, and Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame) *1 canceled show at a festival* HT Euro Headlining Tour: 8 full shows 1 radio show 1 TV concert *3 canceled shows* 1 radio show (after that) Total (of both, excluding canceled shows): 11 live performances Family Values Tour: 27 shows (tour was rescheduled a bunch so we list those shows too) Total: 27 live performances Countdown To Revolution Tour 9 shows 4 radio shows Total: 13 live performances ----------------------------------------------------------- 2001 totals: TOTAL PLAYED SHOWS: 164 Source: http://lplive.net/shows/2001

Amazing job. However, a few corrections. Wantagh was definitely more than four. 2001 x2, 2004, 2007, 2008, 2012, 2014. That's seven. I think it's the leading one. Bristow has to be more than four. 2001, 2004, 2007, 2008, 2012, 2014. That's six. Mountain View with six is correct, I think, but I'll recount. Maybe the venue name changes threw you off. We decided against changing them every time a name change happens, because we want to keep them at the name it holds when LP plays there. I need to clean up that Family Values Tour 2001 (maybe MWT 2004 too) stuff, I think all the rescheduling of that tour skews these stats a bit as there truly aren't that many canceled shows. Let me fix that today and we can adjust them. I'll just post what I remove, and we can just subtract those numbers. For example, if the tour is rescheduled before it's even officially announced, or just after that, that shouldn't count as CANCELED unless it's like Turkey 2008 when LP didn't play the city at all (or Pensacola 2004).

I disagree. The Chinese government is crazy. If they required a list of songs, and they forced Metallica to drop 3 of their biggest songs ever in 2013 and LP 2 songs in 2009, LP will definitely get a few songs rejected here. Agreed. GU and Rebellion for sure in my opinion. I mean we don't need to look at this TOO seriously, the UIB omission could have been a simple mistake. I highly doubt Apaches will go away. I'm surprised no Welcome, though. If GU was banned in 2009, I don't see why that would change now. Great time for APFMH to make its way to China.

Ah ok! Woops, haha. I think we should figure out when the exact 1,000th played show as Linkin Park will be. Maybe a few more years, then, since there are sooooo many canceled shows.

The time is approaching for Linkin Park's 1,000th show AS Linkin Park, since the name change in 2000. We'll use this thread to work on getting the exact count.

I agree with that completely. Did you see the blank LP ones Mike used for the FM show?

There's no doubt he will stay in these smaller clubs. The Los Angeles show was a hometown show and didn't even sell out.

An interesting document has surfaced about Linkin Park's upcoming shows in China. Linkin Park apparently had to submit a list of songs to be "approved" by the Chinese government for their upcoming stadium tour there. This is no surprise, as they had to do the same thing for the show in Shanghai in 2009. At that show, the Chinese government said to "please remove Given Up and Hands Held High" from the setlist, and the band did so accordingly, having Session segue into From The Inside (instead of Given Up, to open the show) and dropping the Hands Held High verse over the intro of Crawling. With this document (dated for the Beijing show), provided by LPL member Vorist from a Weibo group, we see a list of 42 possible songs. Basically everything that's been played on the world tour for The Hunting Party is listed, including A Place For My Head, With You, Somewhere I Belong, Blackout, A Light That Never Comes, and others that aren't being performed live right now. However, an interesting addition is Keys To The Kingdom. All the way back in 2014, the band said they wanted to perform A Line In The Sand and Keys To The Kingdom live....and A Line In The Sand was finally debuted in May. It is unknown if Keys was ever rehearsed (maybe in January or May) or not, though. Anyway, it's on the list, which means some serious consideration has at least gone into the song being performed live. The list was likely made sometime in 2015, since Darker Than Blood is included. We don't KNOW if Linkin Park will debut Keys, but they at least are thinking about it since it's on the list of songs to be approved. It's also likely that some of these songs in the list will have to be dropped according to their strict government policies, so that might be why extras are included. Metallica famously had to drop Master Of Puppets, One, and Creeping Death from its Shanghai shows in 2013 due to the wild government. Additionally, Global Times asked Joe about the upcoming shows there and this is what he had to say... Global Times: "What's it like to perform in a country with a totally different culture?" Joe Hahn: "Last time we had a great time in China. They were big shows and at the time they told us that they were the biggest shows for a rock band in China and so we're looking forward to coming back and repeating that success and sharing our music with our massive fan base in China... cultures may be different but the fans are the same in terms of the universal emotion that they get from the music and what we get back from them." Linkin Park kicks off the five show stadium tour in China on July 15th and performs in Nanjing, Shenzhen, Shanghai, Chongqing, and Beijing.

The Chinese government forced them to drop Given Up and Hands Held High in Shanghai 2007. However, in Shanghai 2007, they did not have any restrictions. http://lplive.net/shows/db/2009/20090815 2009: "Beijing SuoYou Cultural Communication Co., Ltd. : The administrative group has received your proposal application, with Shanghai East Asia Cultural Investment Management Co., Ltd., to invite Linkin Park and its crew (42 people in all) to perform in Shanghai, which was submitted 4th, June, 2009 and given the acceptance No.2009340176. After handing in the application, the Ministry of Culture, P. R. China has made an approval and signed an official document at 26th, June. So please follow the official reply's requirements to remove the two songs, GIVEN UP and HANDS HELD HIGH, and make sure things proceed as stated below."

Damn these 4am announcements, everyone went to bed at like 1-2am EST and bam 2 hours later an announcement. Wow Denmark is interesting. I'm sure the UK people are pretty livid...no LP and now no FM. I thought they'd definitely do London. Cool for Europe, this was expected for sure. Mike saying the tickets are "hard to get" and the shows will be "hard to get into, and announced at the last minute" seems to be a bit of an exaggeration since it's like 2 months until the shows, lmao. I wonder if he'll stick to the same songs or play a few different ones. And my final thought...I find it odd Mike takes Fort Minor to Europe and meanwhile LP can't even do an LPU Summit in Europe after Calgary got canceled. I'm sure Mike doesn't plan the Summits, but still.

I agree that the songwriting has gone way downhill since ATS. They had a lot left over from ATS that they could have made a sequel or something to it, like Primo, but they didn't want to go that route. They have 6 people and have to collectively decide what to do. Anyway yes the last two albums are subpar compared to the "first 5" for me. But it's not because Mike wants to make a watch, I agree with you. It has nothing to do with LP making a Dell laptop or whatever. It's just whatever direction they go in for an album and how much time they spend on it. You can REALLY tell ATS took years to make versus LT came together in months.

I agree with this completely. It's hard to eliminate that.

Less instrumentals please. 01. Pictureboard (just release it already and clear the sample...) 02. My December (Team Sleep Remix) (so heavily requested) 03. Tinfoil/Powerless original 6 min demo 04. Dingleberry (WTCFM demo) 05. Thoughts That Take Away My Pride (Meteora Demo) 06. THP demo of released song 07. THP unreleased demo (instrumental) 08. Whatever the In Yourself/Be Yourself song was 09. something else from ATS era that was shortened to go on LT, but was better in the long form like Primo 10. maybe Not Alone original demo or something random like that

No one from the LP crew was there. https://twitter.com/digbyjim/status/615626149759053826

This is very true as Mike has designed DC shoes all the way back in 2004, or even before, and I believe they invested in this DrunknMonkey clothing thing (that has since disappeared).

I honestly have no idea why China bans certain songs, but it certainly doesn't extend to just Linkin Park. The Rolling Stones and other bands have had this happen to them, maybe even Metallica too. Hands Held High has very political lyrics, I always assumed that was the case. Who knows, maybe they can play Rebellion. However, as stupid as it is to ban music in the first place, it wouldn't surprise me if they looked at The Hunting Party and said "NO REBELLION, NO WAR" or something. I don't understand their government at all and I think they are rather unintelligent in this regard.

I should have elaborated. I mean rock music as a WHOLE is suffering largely from album sales, and that's no secret at all. I'm not saying Linkin Park is embarrassing for their album sales. I'm saying 2010-now, artists aren't moving nearly anything off the shelves compared to HT/Meteora times, and even MTM, when people largely bought albums. This is directly evidenced by the band and their management refusing to release "Making Of" DVDs for Living Things and The Hunting Party because they don't think there is enough demand for it to sell well enough. Linkin Park has done an incredible job at staying relevant and a lot of that has to do with changing their sound.

We've done these before, but we didn't really get to do a tour wrapup for January because the tour was unfortunately canceled after three shows and nothing really changes besides From The Inside and A Place For My Head being added to the setlists, while Rebellion and Until It's Gone were dropped. This will simply be a (short) text review as we have so many videos on the homepage already....videos are in the links if you want to check them out. Anyway, Linkin Park performed eight of nine shows over the past two months so in case you didn't follow LP show-by-show, here's what all took place... On May 9th, LP returned to the stage for their first show since Chester played on his broken ankle in Indianapolis in January. They supported Metallica at the inaugural Rock In Rio USA in Las Vegas, NV, a spot the band tends to play quite frequently compared to other North American cities. Chester was fresh off of a Stone Temple Pilots tour that was quite testing for his ankle at points. He said after the first few shows, he had to walk off stage to immediately place his entire foot and bottom portion of his leg in a bucket of ice. t this show, after months of interviews by the band and rumors that they would add a new song to the setlist, A Line In The Sand received its live debut. Coming in the middle of the setlist, A Line In The Sand replaced Guilty All The Same, the lead single off of the album. At this show, out of nineteen songs, just two were from The Hunting Party (A Line In The Sand and Wastelands). Still, Until It's Gone and Rebellion (two of the next three singles after GATS) hadn't been seen in 2015 at all. The new show opener for this setlist was Papercut, which featured a new 2015 Intro, and Waiting For The End also was moved to near the end of the set. You actually couldn't tell at all that Chester had broken his ankle as he seemed energetic as ever on stage. This is the first time in the band's career that they have played these popular North American festivals. They travel with scaled-down production and used them as fly dates instead of packing them as a part of a tour (like Slipknot and most of the other headliners do, except Metallica). A week later, Rock on the Range took place in Columbus, OH. Unfortunately due to a family emergency, Brad was unable to make the show and Benjamin, his guitar tech, filled in for the third time on the touring cycle, after Brazil in 2014. The band never addressed the absence of Brad this time, electing to keep it quiet unlike the Brazil LPTV episode from 2014 with Benjamin and another from earlier in 2014 that shows Benjamin almost having to fill in at the last minute for Brad in St. Petersburg, Russia. At this show, a longer version of the new setlist debut. Rebellion was played for the first time in 2015 and was moved up to the second spot. Breaking The Habit was played for the first time since January 2014, and part of Darker Than Blood was used as an intro into Burn It Down. A week later, the Rocklahoma show was set to be Linkin Park's first show in Oklahoma since 2008. The show was unfortunately canceled due to weather, bringing on LP's seventeenth canceled show in 2015, their most ever. 2003 had twelve cancellations...fifteen if you count the three shows that the band made up later in the year, but we'll stick with twelve. Fortunately, the weather was good to go at San Antonio's River City Rockfest the next day, weirdly held OUTSIDE of the state-of-the-art AT&T Center on a temporary stage. This was LP's first show in the San Antonio area since 2007. Three shows in May was it, as June rolled around and five shows were on the calendar. Luckily, all five of these were completed. The first was Amnesia Rockfest in Montebello, Canada, the first show in Canada in 2015 after four shows were canceled there earlier in 2015 in Hamilton, Saskatoon, Calgary (+ LPU Summit #13) and Edmonton. Reports indicated Linkin Park performed a good set, but we saw quite a bit of tweeting about people leaving during the middle slow/electronic part of the show like at Rock on the Range. Strangely, Linkin Park only performed for 75 minutes at their day of the festival while System of a Down played 27 songs the following night as a headliner. Fort Minor returned after Montebello, so that distracted most fans from the Mexico shows, but Linkin Park's Mexico City and Monterrey shows that followed Montebello were LP's first there since 2012 and they performed to PACKED houses at both shows. It was at these shows that a longer, headlining setlist was performed since the band had only been playing 75 or 90 minute sets so far in the summer. Points Of Authority was played for the first time in 2015, and replaced Rebellion at the start of the set. Final Masquerade returned to the middle of the set, and an encore break was added that featured Crawling to start it off. Crawling was played in the full for the first time since Download 2014. At these shows, Mike dropped his Solo Medley and replaced it with Welcome, the new Fort Minor song. Joe and Rob play at the end of Welcome live, which is actually a surprise to us. A slightly longer version of Remember The Name followed Welcome. Finally, two shows in Mack, CO at the inaugural Loudwire Music Festival and in Milwaukee, WI at Summerfest ended the band's North American summer shows. It was their first show in Milwaukee ever and first in Wisconsin since 2008, which means they definitely played for many fans this summer that they normally wouldn't play for during a regular tour. At these two shows the 90 minute set returned, meaning Points and Crawling were only played twice in 2015 so far, both in Mexico. Next up for Linkin Park is a five date tour in China in a few weeks. It's their first time in China since 2009 and first since they were reportedly banned by the Chinese government for associations with the Dalai Lama at a Music For Relief event in May 2011. For A Thousand Suns, they had three stadium shows booked for that fall, but they didn't happen and now LP is back with FIVE stadium shows...the largest international rock tour ever in China. At these shows, we should see some different setlists as the government in Shanghai banned Given Up and Hands Held High in 2009, meaning Linkin Park might have to play a few different songs besides Given Up, Rebellion, etc. Did you see any of these summer shows? What do you think about Linkin Park playing the festivals versus doing a normal tour? Unfortunately, an LPU Summit has not been announced for China or Europe yet, and time is running out...but they do have at least a week or two more to shore up some details if they want to announce one. And there we have it!