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Linkin Park didn't rehearse AT ALL for these shows, so I'm sure it's just the Mexico set again. Or even a shorter set like Summerfest maybe. As many singles as they can play, that's for sure. There's no way they'll play Keys if they didn't even rehearse once. Or Don't Stay. The set will be as safe as possible since they are playing to HUGE crowds they've never played to before (besides Shanghai, really). The new video screens look really cool and remind me of Dave Matthews Band's tour in 2012. I'm pretty critical of China but the chairs on the floor thing is just stupid. I know cultures are different but that stems entirely from their government being so paranoid that fans will riot/start chaos on the floor of the show if it is general admission. The fact that they had the military in full riot gear at Shanghai 2007 is absurd.

While I am indifferent on this specific vote, your statement about Don't Stay is extremely incorrect in my opinion. I saw all 3 setlists on Projekt Revolution 2008 and even then, the song was kicking ass. Any song where Mike is not on an instrument has a ton of energy, like Points, Papercut and Don't Stay. He told West Palm Beach to get the fuck up, and they exploded. It sure beat the phoned-in Pushing Me Away studio performance I saw the next night, which looked extremely forced and the band looked quite uninterested. Don't Stay has a lot of energy live. On Projekt Revolution 2007, it was in the very heavy run to start the show at the one I saw: Wake, Given Up, No More Sorrow, Lying From You, Don't Stay, Somewhere I Belong, From The Inside, Papercut, and Points. Fucking sweet. Maybe the band was burnt out by Cuyahoga Falls, but Don't Stay was excellent in West Palm. Moving it down to just one setlist and then excluding it in 2009 was a bad move.

The song isn't on the list of tracks to get approved to play live, though, right? lmao

You're right, even if Don't Stay came in first or second, they wouldn't change the setlist. BUT, Don't Stay and Runaway and Robot Boy are doing way better than a lot of the singles. Pretty cool.

They said full-on pop before THP, so I think they'll do that. That will be pretty disappointing since I dislike Burn It Down MASSIVELY and that's about as cartoonish/poppy as they've gotten. I'd like an album like ATS with experimental song structures....doesn't have to be electronic, it could be rock. Songs like TLTGYA. Doesn't even have to be heavy but I like change and I like good change. I don't think pop will do much for the fans but LP might go back to selling out arenas with 2-3 number one hits on a pop album.

Awesome! Well, we'll at least get a setlist for ONE of the shows

(My power went out as I was typing my reply, damnit.) Mike said he wanted to play longer shows and said he'd play as long as he could if it were up to him. Like you said, he made it sound like it was other band members that didn't want to play longer. I DO think Linkin Park could extend their shows SLIGHTLY, You have to hit 100 minutes as a legit huge rock headliner in MY opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't 2008 and 2010 shows about 95-96 minutes? Just add one more song and it's 100. Holmdel 2014 was 97. That's not too bad. Just don't ever do 90 minutes or under. 100 would be perfect. It's very different for Chester with STP than LP. He screams way more with LP and is much more active on stage, just look at the Euro Tour last fall where he was exploding on stage. He jumps around a lot more, the stages are much much bigger for LP (arenas and outdoor festivals) versus the STP clubs, etc. It most certainly takes a bigger toll on him playing with LP than STP. If Chester can't do 100 minutes, that's fine. They've already cut it from playing shows 3 days in a row to just 2 days now so Chester can rest, and that's also fine because that means the band overall isn't as tired. Sometimes night 2 they aren't "on" as much and then sometimes on night 2 they blow the fucking place apart (Tampa 2014, for example). The solution to 100-105 minutes for LP is to make the setlist not so difficult for Chester, in my opinion. Play In Between if you want, play an instrumental song, I mean I don't really care as long as it isn't 20 singles back-to-back. They don't have to play Given Up, they most certainly don't have to play Crawling. Preserve his voice and play what he can and extend the show a few minutes.

There's a great new interview with Mike up on Absolute Punk here. A few highlights: - On Fort Minor's live shows: "The idea of undertaking and putting together a Fort Minor tour sounded crazy to me. It sounded not really doable, and then I realized if I was a DJ, it would make a lot more sense. It would be a lot more fun. I could just go and roll in on my own, with basically like a flash drive, and do DJ sets. That got me thinking, and that evolved into the show that I’ve got now, which is a very compact rig that a couple of techs and I can fly with. We can play shows locally in between Linkin Park shows here and there." - On new Linkin Park music: "Yeah, we’re already starting to throw ideas together. I’m always writing. It’s always an ongoing process for me, but we never know. Chester and I joke that we’ve already made the mistake of telling people what the next record is going to sound like. I remember on Minutes to Midnight, we wrote a couple really heavy songs. He went out and told people, “Oh, this album is going to be the heaviest record we’ve ever made.” Then it ended up that only two of those songs made the cut [laughs], and the rest of them did not. People were just like, “Wait, what the fuck? You told us this record was going to sound like…”" - On a possible Hybrid Theory club show in October: "That’s possible. We’ll see, you know? I don’t know what’s going to happen. It’s funny. We haven’t done very many celebratory events for Hybrid Theory. We didn’t have a big 10-year thing, and we’re not planning any major 15-year thing. We’ll see what happens, but we aren’t planning any major celebrations." The interview touches on everything from Linkin Park's new business ventures to a lot of Fort Minor discussion. It's definitely worth a read!

DTB is just Mike and Chester for a minute over synth or whatever. Drop that and Robot Boy and we can get APFMH back in there.

http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=10142&page=3&do=findComment&comment=254879

Thanks Astat. That show was brought up in 2013 here: http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=9868

I agree with everything you say. You have three points I want to address: 1. Hell yes on Darker Than Blood. I texted Soul at ROTR, "wow WTF a brand new song, when did they even have time to record this?" and had no idea what it was. 2. LPU Tour would be GREAT with only 1-2 singles. They won't do it though because they won't make enough money. How much money could LP make on one LPU show? Not that much. And a whole tour of it, plus to pay the crew? Ha, they wouldn't do it I bet unless it was HT in full....and Download shot that idea down. It kills me they didn't STILL do it in the USA even after Download's offer 3. No more USA festivals is an understatement. They've never done them before, and I'm glad. I believed the opposite until I went to one...I haven't seen any good reviews from the hardcore LP fans who went to them this year.

I wasn't a big fan of the DBS encore in 2009 with LP, I saw it twice. I feel like with the LP shows, Mike is really using the LP name to push the FM song and project whereas that didn't happen the first time around for FM. He wore an FM shirt like 3x to the 5 LP shows in June (maybe 4?), he plays 2 FM songs in the setlists where LP could play 2 more songs. And the craziest thing is the FM Facebook page has zero info on the show announcements or music video release stuff, where he uses the LP social media to promote it all. I feel like a side project is a side project, not the main band. I love FM, I love RTN, etc and I want to see FM on tour, but I'm not a big fan of the FM stuff in the setlists and Mike promoting it at all costs with the LP accounts. What do you think?

Good post. I'm indifferent on part of this. One side of me wants to see more THP, and another side of me wants to see more cuts off of other albums that haven't been played live or are rarer to see live, like anything from And One to P5hng Me A*wy to Powerless to Blackout to Burning In The Skies to Easier To Run. They do play too many singles. I'm extremely tired of Numb, In The End, Burn It Down, and New Divide live. I was extremely happy when they dropped Breaking The Habit and Crawling, and I even like BTH. They're just overplayed. I never thought they'd change up Numb's studio version again, ever, so it's good the Numb/Encore stuff at least makes the song easier to hear live. The problem is that they clearly run through the motions with most of those songs I listed above, every single night. You can't tell me they truly enjoy playing Burn It Down every show, because the looks on their faces say otherwise. Now, if they play APFMH nightly for an entire 2015 tour, I'll say the same thing. Two songs that come to mind that I saw them continually blow the fuck up on (and I saw quite a few 2011, 2012 and 2014 shows) were When They Come For Me and Lost In The Echo. Coincidentally, both are dropped from the live show. Hell, as much as I hate Lies Greed Misery, I'll put that in there too. They went nuts on those three songs. WTCFM was on FIRE in 2012...aaaaand they dropped it. LITE was really really filthy in 2012-2013 and they dropped it...the shortened version was atrocious. LGM was a jam and they dropped it, along with Victimized and the normal version of Castle Of Glass even though it took them ages to get Castle down. It doesn't make much sense. I mean I want them to play what they WANT to play....I know they don't LOVE these singles every show and I bet they'd drop One Step Closer in a heartbeat if they felt risky enough to do it. In The End is one that they seem to feed off the crowd on so I could see them keeping that, but none of the rest. I don't want to see a half-assed Forgotten, By Myself, etc....they blew up on A Place For My Head in January but they'd get tired of that eventually too after 19 shows, I'm positive. I can't tell if they truly want to play the new THP stuff or not, or LT. Who knows. Maybe "this whole album was made to be played live!!!" they've harped on for 3 years and 2 albums for, is just a marketing ploy or something. They're playing a lot of stuff they like right now. Mike LOVES Robot Boy, his solo stuff, Waiting For The End, Papercut (everyone loves Papercut), etc. From The Inside and A Line In The Sand are MONSTERS right now and IMO both should stick around for 2016. But they also have a lot of stuff they looked bored on, like One Step Closer sometimes, Bleed It Out, and especially Burn It Down. ALITS is the perfect new closer to the show to replace BIO, but they'd never do it. I honestly don't see a single song from The Hunting Party making it to the first full-fledged album tour in 2016 for their new album (not a promo tour). Anyway, I truly enjoy seeing something DIFFERENT each tour and they've done a good job with that generally, but I feel like they got super lazy in 2014 with only 2 sets, which weren't very different at all. 2012's setlists nailed it. Maybe in 2016 they'll return to 3 diverse setlists again, or at least we can hope.

Fixed. How in the world did we even put that in incorrectly? Dallas was also wrong. Philly was the last show it was in the other order, so they changed it for NYC. Added a note to that page. Added another note to Salt Lake City where they dropped Crawling. Europe looks fine, let me know if you see this error anywhere else.

LPHQ said fake. If it came from WBR I highly doubt it was fake. They just posted an earlier version of it.

Yeah I've never heard the title. To be after ALITS, it must be a hell of a closer. I don't even think Final Masquerade is on the list. Viserion maybe a jam with Morello (named that because Mike overused the word VISCERAL until it was dead), Warrior definitely War, The Hunt is probably The Summoning. Album was rumored to be called Carnivores or whatever, maybe this was around that time and when they changed it to THP, they didn't want The Hunt as a song title. It's funny they were so adamant on saying FAKE TRACKLISTING, but this really WAS a tracklisting for the album, just not the final one.

Great post! I don't know if they'll ever decide to release Pictureboard but it'd be cool JUST so it gets out and people stop hyping it up so much....there's zero way it lives up to expectations, haha. I think that My December remix would be cool, or a b-side or two. LPU X had two full b-sides with What We Don't Know and Pretend To Be. If LPU 15 can rival that with two other quality ones, plus of course some unreleased instrumentals/demos, I'll be more than satisfied. I don't think that's even too crazy of a request. But I also don't know if LP continued to make these full b-side songs after the MTM era....I'm not sure if ATS/LT/THP even had another full, completed song like MTM had (MTM had 5!). Mike picks the CDs, I believe.

Sorry for the extremely late bump, but do we know what these other titles turned into and what they are demos of? Are there any unknown songs on this list?

Let's do it!

It's like China owns Hong Kong and Macau but I consider them their own countries. They have their own governments, etc...the Chinese just won't let go (no surprise). You have to have your passport stamped to go from one to the other or to/from China. Hong Kong competed in the 2008 Beijing Olympics on their own team. We put the Macau and Hong Kong flags on LPLive for the show pages instead of China, too. It's like they are 99% their own countries.

Or that the government, you know, is just nuts.

Launching a new one soon, stay tuned.

I know this is not exactly what you were looking for, but here are a few old video interviews, the oldest I can find. There is also one from earlier in 2000 with them on their tour bus. Very odd to see. I can't find it at all though anymore on YouTube. Anyone have any luck? As far as magazines go, I bet none really wrote about LP until OSC picked up.