Qwerty18

So, basically, MTV dropped all the agressive songs? Commercial spirit, no comment...

Heavy guitar riffs....Yes, ATS wouldn't be ATS with those, and I'm quite glad they aren't there for that reason. But on the other hand, LP haven't made a song with a heavy riff for a hell lot of time (last one being No More Sorrow). And I miss that. Really. EDIT: BTW, I don't mean background guitars (No Roads Left, Numb, In The End) but litteraly, heavy riffs (One Step Closer, Qwerty,...)

Pretend To be (you time has got to be erased... )

A7X, SOAD, and LP on the same festival? F*ck Yeah!!!!

Well, again, Pretend To Be...

I didn't know that. Interesting! Anyway, some heavy MTM demos would be cool. And also Pictureboard...curiosity...

Pretend To Be

Pale.....(still useful to vote?)

Hmmm...Here's mine 01-Wretches And Kings 02-One Step Closer 03-Waiting For The End 04-Breaking The Habbit 05-In The End 06-No More Sorrow

Hum...now that Not Alone is gone...well...I don't exaclty know...Let's say Pale!

And guess what? Not Alone

Condemned and Into You are the DBS tracks I've been playing the more often since the release of OOA. So...

Not alone again...but Halo will probably be the one to go...

Would be cool, indeed. Plus, I remember someone from the band saying they were thinking about releasing a bunch of ,new songs (like 3,4 songs) each 4/5 months, instead of releasing albums. So, an EP is not impossible.

To me, Halo still sounds a lot like the "old" Linkin Park. The power chords used during the second half of the song are almost the same as what they've done in songs like Numb, Easier To Run,...It's the "using power chords to make a chorus big" phenomenom Mike was talking about recently, IMO. Then, you'll say "the demos you want are supposedly heavy, they have power chords man!". Yes, but the guitars in GU, NMS, and Qwerty are way more agressive and rough(sonicely) than before I think, it's different. I mean, before, LP already had heavy riffs, but the sound of their guitars was more layered. About She Couldn't...Hum, yes, you're right. But I will not be objective by saying at this moment, as LP is realeasing soft stuff again and again, I'm more attracted by their heavy side. It's a matter of taste, and I respect your opinion. Not sure, but I Think those crazy ideas would have been incorporated in their "Nu Metal" sound, label or nor not label. At this time, they wanted to proove their HT success, so replicate the same sound, and Chester was quite angry and drug-addicted, so he would probably have continue to use his "hardcore" HT vocals I guess. So, all in all, a sound similar to Meteora, maybe with more experiments. But not sure, just a bet...

The deal is...we don't have a lot of material from the Meteora session, agreed, but the Meteora sound is similar to the Hybrid Theory sound. So I just mean we already have ton of material from the 1999-2003 Linkin Park. We also have a lot of material from the MTM session, but mainly alternative. Only 3 heavy songs from that time(wich doesn't sound like their older heavy songs) have surfaced. And IMO, what's interesting about it is that they reveal a side of LP we almost don't know : a Metal/Punk Linkin Park.

Yes, that's it.

For sure heavy songs can suck horribly and be so un-original. But I don't think that's the case here....it was said they felt like the softer one were better and more interesting (probably because of guitar solos, unusual structures, ...). BUT, if they talked about the heavy one and even considered putting them on the album, they have to be good. At least some of them. And I don't trust LP judgement. Putting songs like LOATR, SOTD, Valentine's day instead of ATL, No Roads Left, and What They Don't Know on MTM was a crime (And Chester thinks Runaway sucks...WTF!)

Not Alone!!!

Ladies and Gentlemen, good morning (or afternoon/evening/night!). I was just having a personal debate inside of me, and I took the decision to put what I was thinking here (yeah, I'm kind of bored actually... ). But hey, don't go! It should be interesting, guys....I'm going to talk about one of the most mysterious and unfamous thing in the LP history: Once Upon A Time, there was a Heavy MTM. First of all,I'd like to point that the majority of LP fans usually agree on the terms used to describe each LP era. We all have a general conception of how the LP sound has evoluate through the years. And in this conception, MTM is categorized like an alternative and soft album. Like somebody on LPL said... Hum, yes....but what we really don't know...is that MTM was originaly expected to be heavy. Seeing that, I remembered the alternative MTM covers we get one year after its release...and one of those (with staircases) totally looks like a cover made for an heavy album. I might be wrong, but the link between what Chester has said and this cover is interesting. So, what? I think all the songs from that heavy MTM era could possibly constitute some the most interesting LP material which hasn't been released yet. While we now have get a lot of the alternative songs from the MTM process, only 3 heavy songs from that period have surfaced: Qwerty, Given Up, No More Sorrow. And what's interesting with those 3 is that they reveal a side of Linkin Park we barely know: heavier, more organic, and more rough than everetyhing they've done before and after. Something between metal and agressive punk, with rap verses on Qwerty. To me, releasing those songs in the future could be a fabulous gift to the LP community. Way more interesting than releasing some random Hybrid/Metora demos for example, because we all have so much from that period already. But now that ATS and LPUX are out, there's a risk none of those heavy MTM demos will ever see the light of the day, because LP will probably focus on giving us ATS demos now. The only way we could still have a chance to hear it one day is to keep showing our interest in those demos. Maybe a reference/question about those in the LPL interview with Mike? Some questions during the next LPU event/chat? I don't know... Well, what do you think of it? Are you actually interested with it, or would you prefer Hybrid/Meteora/ATS demos? Do you know more informations about i? (interviews, ...). Let's talk!

No, you're right, Pretend to be WAS a MTM demo, but it was finished in 2008. Not Alone was also finished later...So, concerning the 5 B-sides, we now have: Across The Line No Roads Left Blackbirds and probably What We Don't KnowWe still miss 1 (or 2) song(s)....

Ok, I found it too...The last 2 pages of this thread are made of win

Actually, I liked Hybrid Theory before I liked music in general...One Step Closer still remains in my 10 favorite songs ever. Happy Birthday!

Actually, I liked Hybrid Theory before I liked music in general...One Step Closer still remains in my 10 favorite songs ever. Happy Birthday!

Some comments on Mike's blog will not change anything IMO. Just to point it out, there are thousands of people who are coming to LP shows, and seeing a minority of those being angry about the setlists is not enough to make Mike and the other guys change their mind. Until a big petition or something similar is not done, we will have the same setlist over and over again, at least during the european tour.