ThePretender

Funny, I used to imagine this a couple of years ago.

It was unexpected when the news came that Linkin Park would release this album. They usually come with an announcement with the announcement that they're going to announce something. This, however, was out of the blue. I like the cover art and was curious for the tracklist. I thought immediately of Reanimation but, being realistic, the chance of something similar wasn't that big. The band could always suprise us though. But the tracklist was dissapointing. Some of the songs we already have and I found them standard EDM. With Living Things, I also wondered why LP was doing this with the remixes because they had never done something like that, letting their songs be remixed by EDM-dj's. And now they do, how commercial of them. Still, I'm looking forward to the new songs, expecially those from the LP camp. A Light that Never Comes is not a bad song either, if you're past the stage of disliking the effects. I listen to some EDM and this fits in my interests. I like that the band wants to experiment and I'm glad they do it in this way and not with a studio album. So, for experimental sake, they're allowed to do this megacommercial thing with one cheezy sentence in the lyrics, repetitivity, a drop etc. But because it is this commercial, I want it to be succesful so release that shit on big scale! It's cool though that LP is also heard musically in the song in the bridge (with the piano and guitar) and the outro.

Oh No

The Mall premiere haha.

One would think the opposite, right

You originally posted an other link, right? But it wasn't that lol. more like "Leave Out All the Rest (live)" written ON the cover but more below.

Something like "A Light That Never Comes (Rock Version)" haha. Why is the song title written in caps lock? Is the LIVING THINGS trend continuing?

No, although this could be a source too. The one I had was like the RtR cover, but it had "Leave Out All the Rest (live)" written below.

I also saw it named under Fort Minor.

Can't find it anymore bro . But I'm a big contributor to the Dutch Wikipedia and wrote this and wrote this when it came out. I didn't used sources though. You can Google Translate it, it has info about the release.

You're right, the live version was a single as well. I have the cover art. I remember that you could also download it for free. The difference with Lying From You is that the video of the song was a live footage from Live in Texas and the song sent to the stations was the studio version. Just like Numb/Encore.

In theory you're right. But streams didn't count back then (if you were referring to charts), they do since this year. Glad I could help out.

But there's a difference between putting out a song of the album for people to listen to, and a single. Wretches and Kings was the first. Ofcourse, it will promote the album but it isn't neccesarily a single. I think another important factor in being a single is that is has to be released on a format. For instance, radio (airplay) or downloads (sales). That wasn't the case with Wretches and Kings. Radio stations are allowed to play any song they want from albums, except when it is limited to a release date. But the weird thing is, why did KROQ made the choice to play I'll Be Gone even though it wasn't an official single nor to promote a related event (AAC was already in the past). Yep. I think so.

I wouldn't say that they're promo singles. Wretches and Kings didn't got a release, no airplay and you couldn't download it. It was only a stream. Just a song that was uploaded, nothing more. And in the case of I'll Be Gone, I'd say that it's more like an album track that got some airplay instead of being a promo single. It was more the choice of KROQ. I'm interested in singles, sales and such so yeah

Wretches and Kings wasn't a single. LP released the song as a stream to the public in the period between the release of The Catalyst and the waiting for the album. You know, to promote the album. An example is this. I'll Be Gone got some good airplay on KROQ, in the first quarter of 2013. But it was only on that station and nowhere else. Pretty strange. It wasn't a single though.

I'd say yes

1) Oh yeah, I remember that. I think that I have the cover on my computer. 2) Didn't knew that. 3) A promo is a "light" release. The song is only sent to the radio stations and has a release date, while promo's don't have a set release date. Lying from You got to the first position in the Billboard rock charts, solely on Airplay. 4) They removed the iTunes release but I got this though.

I love the Powerless artwork as well. I didn't knew I was a bit vague but Soul understood me .

Yeah, Blackbirds had a release date but was withdrawn to make room for The Catalyst.

These things always interested me so I know something about these things. Official Singles: check One Step Closer Crawling Papercut In The End Pts.Of.Athrty Somewhere I Belong Faint Numb From The Inside Breaking The Habit Numb/Encore (With Jay-Z) What I've Done Bleed It Out Shadow Of The Day Given Up Leave Out All The Rest New Divide The Catalyst Waiting For The End Burning In The Skies Iridescent Burn It Down Lost In The Echo Castle Of Glass Featured: We Made It (Featured by Busta Rhymes) iTunes Singles: New Divide (Live Single) [ I'm don't consider this as a single, just as some random release. ] Not Alone Rolling In The Deep (Adele Cover) (Live) Powerless (Only in Japan) Promomotional Singles: Points Of Authority v [ There are probably some promo cd's out there with these songs on it but I don't think there was an intention for these to be released as singles. They probably got some airplay on some local stations but that was just coincidental. v My December High Voltage Pushing Me Away Enth E Nd Frgt/10 H! Vltg3 My<Dsmbr P5hng Me A*wy Lying From You [More than just a promo, it was a radio single in the US] Dirt Off Your Shoulder/Lying From You (With Jay-Z) [iTunes only] Izzo/In The End (With Jay-Z) Points Of Authority/99 Problems/One Step Closer (With Jay-Z) No More Sorrow (Live) Blackout Waiting For The End (Non Rap Version) [Just a alternate version for radio stations, not a seperate release. See it as some kind of radio edit] Lies Greed Misery [indeed a promo]

Does anyone happen to have the HQ artwork of Lies Greed Misery?

Nice read Geki

Mike said that The Requiem consists of musical elements that are used in the other songs of the album. Does someone found all the sounds? I know it's hard to explain it in words. I hear the piano parts of Waiting or the End, the lyrics are from The Catalyst obviously.

Didn't we have something like that: http://lplive.net/setlistssongs/linkinparkallsongslive.php?

I find it unnecessary to open a new topic in the Fort Minor section so here's my question. Red to Black is in 12/8, right?