Bambitt Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Trumtram said: It goes both ways, though. People can enjoy what they want and just ignore those who don't? I mean there are 9(!) new versions of AO out now, so go and have fun with them. You now have 1 single version, 5 live versions and 15 remixes of one song to go crazy to. But just spelling that out should emphasize why some people (myself included) just can't anymore. It's the same as with BTH (live) and BID all these years ago (as Mark pointed out). Also, I find it funny that YouTube comments are now a thing to go by, apparently. Again, "THE CRIMSON CHAPTER" is cool and I loved the live sessions (although 5 is enough to my liking) because both have interesting concepts behind them. But I'm not ovulating just because an artist I like drops ANYTHING "new". Also also: Shoutout to JZLP: The nu metal hate from back in the days certainly connects us :D. I remember reading on pushmeaway what other artists thought about LP and there was so much bashing, it was hard for a 16 year old hardcore fan. this! agreed Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PizzaPino Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I feel like some people are just too emotionally invested lol Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soeffingnaive92 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 It's pretty obvious tha this release is not for us but for videogaming/marketing purposes and stuff like that. I couldn't care less about it, i heard it fast forwarding almost every track, it is what it is, it's there, will never listen to it again but I am not hating, waiting for the next project, hoping I'll enjoy it Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodbath Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I don't know what's the point of so many remixes/videogame scores/whatever of AO, but for sure he's becoming relevant again. I rather have this heated discussions about a track than see this forum become a nuclear wasteland like between 2021-2022, where we had ZERO activity from Mike and the band (yes, he produced a few tracks for indie artists, but you get the point). I miss those shitstorms, they were funny and helped to keep the fanbase alive. LP might take one or two suggestions from hardcore fans, but it's not like our discussions affected the band's trajectory. For me, keep releasing stuff Mike, whatever it is. 3 hours ago, Somebodyangry said: It's pretty obvious tha this release is not for us but for videogaming/marketing purposes and stuff like that. I couldn't care less about it, i heard it fast forwarding almost every track, it is what it is, it's there, will never listen to it again but I am not hating, waiting for the next project, hoping I'll enjoy it Exactly, that has always been the point with LP. Don't you like their newest stuff? Wait 'till the next one, you might like it We should do a poll: Which has been your favorite shitstorm in the LP community? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 hours ago, bloodbath said: I don't know what's the point of so many remixes/videogame scores/whatever of AO, but for sure he's becoming relevant again. I rather have this heated discussions about a track than see this forum become a nuclear wasteland like between 2021-2022, where we had ZERO activity from Mike and the band (yes, he produced a few tracks for indie artists, but you get the point). I miss those shitstorms, they were funny and helped to keep the fanbase alive. LP might take one or two suggestions from hardcore fans, but it's not like our discussions affected the band's trajectory. For me, keep releasing stuff Mike, whatever it is. Exactly, that has always been the point with LP. Don't you like their newest stuff? Wait 'till the next one, you might like it We should do a poll: Which has been your favorite shitstorm in the LP community? In no particular order -Heavy single release -OML album leak -LPU8 -Early years LP were the BSB of the nu metal community Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodbath Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, JZLP-NaughtyNottingham said: In no particular order -Heavy single release -OML album leak -LPU8 -Early years LP were the BSB of the nu metal community The LPU8 pissed me off completely. I was 17 at the time and didn't got the joke, but it prepared me for better jokes like Recharged. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 30 minutes ago, bloodbath said: The LPU8 pissed me off completely. I was 17 at the time and didn't got the joke, but it prepared me for better jokes like Recharged. You know what man Complaining or whatever you wanna call it sometimes it's positive Because of the LPU 8 shit storm they gave us an insane release next year. Mike for sure knows that some fans are pissed off I wonder if he will actually do something about it. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodbath Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 12 minutes ago, JZLP-NaughtyNottingham said: You know what man Complaining or whatever you wanna call it sometimes it's positive Because of the LPU 8 shit storm they gave us an insane release next year. Mike for sure knows that some fans are pissed off I wonder if he will actually do something about it. That's right, sometimes fans feedback is positive, although I feel that, in other times, we feel a little bit entitled. The latest LPU CDs gave me the feeling that they were made as an contractual obligation, not because they really wanted to share something with us. The LPU Sixteen was barring the bottom of the barrel for me. A back to OG LPUs would have been nice, specially after the death of DSPs. But, you know, you can't just make all fans happy all the time. Being this Already Over campaign a great example. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLStaff Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 22 hours ago, Legend said: I'm sick of listening to every version of AO when, in fact, I am choosing to do so. I could just not listen and wait for the next original interesting track from Mike but instead am coming here to complain and critique the mere existence of these releases, even though he and his label are just following best marketing practices today Exactly. lol 16 hours ago, Trumtram said: It's the same as with BTH (live) and BID all these years ago (as Mark pointed out). Again, "THE CRIMSON CHAPTER" is cool and I loved the live sessions (although 5 is enough to my liking) because both have interesting concepts behind them. But I'm not ovulating just because an artist I like drops ANYTHING "new". LP fans have complained nonstop. Only time I don't remember any complaining was 2003-2004 where it seemed like every single thing the band did was seen as a genius move by the fans. MTM onwards, it's been chaos. LPLive itself has caused a ton of backlash and drama over the years and we won't even try to deny it. The band going with the same setlists like 4-5 shows in a row in Europe 2010, I mean people were ready to flat out riot on social media and the forums. Ha. 15 hours ago, deanowardust said: it's gone from him creating a song a day. to him using 1 song over an entire year and milking it as much as possible. We've seen both sides. I prefer him being prolific and showing how quickly he can turn around a song and finish it/get it in a decent structure. I'm not sure what the aim of milking Already Over is, it does feel like song abuse at this point. The song was released in October. Like 3-4 months ago. Who says he isn't writing new music right now? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 9 hours ago, bloodbath said: We should do a poll: Which has been your favorite shitstorm in the LP community? There is only one answer, and one correct answer, and that answer is… DangerSilent Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasputin 93 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Can't wait to check the comments here once the Workout Soundscape versions drop on Monday. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soeffingnaive92 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I remember the ALTNC remixes EP and it was like 10 years ago lol. Horrible remixes of a fun pretty inconsistent EDM track Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesar656 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Amazing how people think these versions are for LP fans. All he has done with the different releases of AO and session performances is try to get a broader audience to maybe justify a new CD or live tour. He isnt doing Ao ENdel Gaming for LP fans, he is doing it so players of the game can say dude catchy song who wrote that? and get a new fan. Its not all about you guys, the sooner you realize, the better Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpliveusername Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Cesar656 said: Amazing how people think these versions are for LP fans. All he has done with the different releases of AO and session performances is try to get a broader audience to maybe justify a new CD or live tour. He isnt doing Ao ENdel Gaming for LP fans, he is doing it so players of the game can say dude catchy song who wrote that? and get a new fan. Its not all about you guys, the sooner you realize, the better Even when it's not about you, about you all of a sudden it's about you. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPsMart Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 How many versions are there now? I can't keep up. hahaha Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 16 minutes ago, LPsMart said: How many versions are there now? I can't keep up. hahaha Depends if you want to count the steams, instrumentals, Acapella.. so around like 24 https://linkinpedia.com/wiki/Already_Over Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinez Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 41 minutes ago, LPsMart said: How many versions are there now? I can't keep up. hahaha 27 with all the live versions or 29 if you also include the unmastered version of acapella and intrumental because those two are available in two versions - unmastered and mastered. EDIT: actually maybe this Endel versions we should classify as 3 songs because the first song is divided into 5 tracks the second and third both are divided into 4 tracks. It's the same like the Sleepy track was divided into 30 tracks but it's a still one song. So do we actually should count the Endel release as 13 tracks? Or just as a 3 tracks? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinifeijo Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, martinez said: 27 with all the live versions or 29 if you also include the unmastered version of acapella and intrumental because those two are available in two versions - unmastered and mastered. EDIT: actually maybe this Endel versions we should classify as 3 songs because the first song is divided into 5 tracks the second and third both are divided into 4 tracks. It's the same like the Sleepy track was divided into 30 tracks but it's a still one song. So do we actually should count the Endel release as 13 tracks? Or just as a 3 tracks? It's not about us dividing it the way we think we should. THEY (Mike/Warner/Management) divided it into all that many tracks. That's canon. As just as all LT songs being in ALL CAPS is canon too. Edited January 31 by vinifeijo Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPsMart Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 7 hours ago, JZLP-NaughtyNottingham said: Depends if you want to count the steams, instrumentals, Acapella.. so around like 24 7 hours ago, martinez said: 27 with all the live versions or 29 if you also include the unmastered version of acapella and intrumental because those two are available in two versions - unmastered and mastered. That's ridiculous man, not saying it's unreasonable, but not saying it's reasonable either. The song was meh to begin with. Mike chuckled at the idea Already Over (Theremin Soundscape), so I imagine there's no foreseeable hold to this hahaha Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid1988 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Meanwhile, I've just been here on my own ignoring every thing Shinoda posts because AO was completely underwhelming to me. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YRQRM0 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 On 1/31/2024 at 4:27 AM, Cesar656 said: Amazing how people think these versions are for LP fans. All he has done with the different releases of AO and session performances is try to get a broader audience to maybe justify a new CD or live tour. He isnt doing Ao ENdel Gaming for LP fans, he is doing it so players of the game can say dude catchy song who wrote that? and get a new fan. Its not all about you guys, the sooner you realize, the better Exactly, I'd rather just experience and comment on it for what it is instead of bemoaning its existence. new original music that is for us will likely come eventually, and we're so lucky that it's still coming at all imo Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15241-already-over-in-my-head-endel-gaming-soundscape/page/2/#findComment-323559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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