LPLStaff Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 Without having much context to this entire situation, something tells me this isn't the last we will see from this show. We have all of the major highlights and today actually caused us to edit 6 show pages (Smoke Out + UK November) and 2 wiki pages for Nobody's Listening and It's Goin' Down. lol Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumtram Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Wow, great stuff and also so unexpectedly bad. It's probably because of the mixing of this recording(?) but man, they were off at times. "Papercut" had terrible levels (never heard these string sounds Joe made at the end, especially not that loud), Chester messed up the first chorus of "Don't Stay", Mike's guitar went dead during "Somewhere I Belong" and overall Brad's guitar volume was waaaaay too high which didn't help the overall performance. Speaking of high, Chester was very likely far from sober that evening. Still he performed greatly! All in all, I can see why something in the sense of "just destroy the tapes" might have been said at some stage. I don't think the band wanted to go through this performance again immediately after it happened and then might have just forgotten about it (I mean, they forgot about "Lost" being ready and done, so...). Nonetheless having more of it is awesome and the changed setlist plus "Nobody's Listening" are much appreciated. Great mash-up, just terrible mixing. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLStaff Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 I think the audio is completely raw, they should have/would have recorded multitracks for the audio along with the video but they have never mentioned the audio. This is probably a direct rip from the board. If anyone were to really release this they'd definitely mix it properly and edit it, probably fixing some stuff like the SIB guitar, levels, etc, but not Chester on Don't Stay haha. Yes, he was far from sober on the Meteora tour. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumtram Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, LPLStaff said: I think the audio is completely raw, they should have/would have recorded multitracks for the audio along with the video but they have never mentioned the audio. This is probably a direct rip from the board. If anyone were to really release this they'd definitely mix it properly and edit it, probably fixing some stuff like the SIB guitar, levels, etc, but not Chester on Don't Stay haha. Yes, he was far from sober on the Meteora tour. Yeah, I also think that the messed up audio is because of the raw recording. But especially during "Papercut" you can hear how things got adjusted during the performance. Brad also was a bit sloppy in the "Don't Stay" intro. There were a few places where things didn't feel connected or a bit sloppy. But you are right, they would have fixed most mistakes / technical hickups. Still, it wasn't the best showing for the band from what I could gather here. And concerning Chester, I mean, it's Smoke Out, so that feels like the theme of his day back then, too ;). Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3bebuilder Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I thought Chester seemed a bit off during the performance but he sounded great. Mike seemed to be very energetic though lol Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodbath Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Unpopular opinion here: I've never understood the mighty aura that has this show. Yeah, the first time playing BTH... So what? That might just me, but I've never understood the charm of debut performance of songs, usually are far from being the best version of them. And while I haven't watched the footage yet, seems like it was an ok performance. Having already said that... Really glad to see that pro-shot partially released. Moreso when they've always messed up about the material ("the label has it", "the tapes have been destroyed", "the band doesn't like the footage"... etc). It finally is where it should belong, with the fans Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT_lash Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Reading the comments and I'm perplexed how people's tastes vary so much. Things aren't entirely right here, the band's performance and such, but Chester's voice, because! Is he sober? It doesn't matter, he still uses drives on the BTH bridge, something he never used again from 2008 onwards. I really like the old performances precisely because of the energy that the band emanated, an energy that was depleted over time (age, perhaps?). Chester's vocal performances with screams and drives in the HT and Meteora eras are unsurpassed. That's why any old show of theirs drives me crazy. In the Philadephia show released at Meteora20th we can see Chester talking to the audience and letting out screams ?????? The kind of thing that would never happen from MTM onwards. Old LP is simply outstanding. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLStaff Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 BTH in the rain for the debut is pretty iconic for the fanbase. New setlist, proshot Nobody's Listening, all that rare stuff... new intros etc... I mean the Meteora era is held in such high regard in the fanbase that literally any proshot from that era will send fans into a frenzy. Imagine if out of nowhere Manila 2004 came out. People would be losing their minds lol. To compare, Camden 2004 sent the fanbase into chaos - in a good way. It doesn't have to be a good performance or even the best setlist - people just LOVE that era of the band so much that they could whiff on half the songs in the set and everyone would still love it. Look at Mountain View 2004. Chester was out of his mind on whatever substances that show, they fuck Wish up and have to completely restart it, A.06 goes off the rails, etc... and people think it's the greatest shit ever. It's just a product of being from 2003-04. 1 hour ago, bloodbath said: It finally is where it should belong, with the fans Love that quote. At the end of the day, label teams, band teams, etc change over time. What stays consistent is the fans. Where content really belongs is with fans. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3bebuilder Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 They just privated the video. Thankfully there's a download. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYG4R Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 LINKIN PARK - PRIME era! Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
My4oKFanLP Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 How nice and disturbing it is when someone posts such rarities. You plunge back into your youth again and understand why you love Linkin Park. Maybe one day we'll see the full show. Thanks to Fremont Studios and LPLive. The sound is not the best, but it has been much worse. The image quality on a 2k monitor is normal. Al did not worsen the picture except for BTH. I would rate the video editing work at 8/10 I want to say about Chester at this concert, he seemed ordinary to me. He was even stranger at the concert in Philadelphia on 12/07/2003. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPMaskMan Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 That's really awesome to see more footage of this "holy grail" show than before! Also would be cool if the DVD would be released somehow. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
easiertorun03 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 8 hours ago, LPLStaff said: BTH bajo la lluvia para el debut es bastante icónico para la base de fans. Nuevo setlist, proshot Nobody's Listening, todas esas cosas raras... nuevas introducciones, etc. Quiero decir, la era Meteora tiene tanta consideración en la base de fans que literalmente cualquier proshot de esa época enloquecerá a los fans. Imagínense si de la nada saliera Manila 2004. La gente estaría perdiendo la cabeza jajaja. En comparación, Camden 2004 envió a la base de fans al caos, en el buen sentido. No tiene que ser una buena actuación o incluso el mejor setlist: a la gente le ENCANTA tanto esa época de la banda que podrían oler la mitad de las canciones del set y a todos les encantaría. Mire Mountain View 2004. Chester estaba loco con cualquier sustancia que mostrara, jodieron a Wish y tuvieron que reiniciarlo por completo, A.06 se descarriló, etc... y la gente piensa que es la mejor mierda de la historia. Es solo producto de ser del 2003-04. Me encanta esa cita. Al final del día, los equipos de sellos, bandas, etc. cambian con el tiempo. Lo que se mantiene constante son los aficionados. Donde realmente pertenece el contenido es con los fans. For those who don't know, in this show again Brad's guitar is destroyed after "A Place For My Head" Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minuteforce Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 There's a break from "Grindin'" in there as well, that comes in after the "My Name" verse Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RentEznor Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 8 hours ago, RYG4R said: LINKIN PARK - PRIME era! So until 2017? Checks out. I truly hope when they make the video public again the annoying AI bullshit is gone and they post the actual raw unedited footage. 12 hours ago, bloodbath said: Unpopular opinion here: I've never understood the mighty aura that has this show. Yeah, the first time playing BTH... So what? That might just me, but I've never understood the charm of debut performance of songs, usually are far from being the best version of them. And while I haven't watched the footage yet, seems like it was an ok performance. That's literally the point of first time evers, regardless of the quality, it will never not be bad to have these out, especially if they're old. Edited January 7 by RentEznor Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thigolpbr Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 The video was private on Channel Freemont and I have a theory about that: About two months ago I contacted Fredmont about this show, and they told me that there was nothing else just "BTH, POA and PPC" and we had this wonderful surprise that took everyone by surprise. It's worth remembering that we have a video sample with some other songs shared a few years ago https://youtu.be/iZ7VGN8YDvg?si=StbLJRfmxyDiPDqq who also came from Freemonts. What I think is that maybe they have the other songs and will update soon and because they made this video private, I believe that more things can come from this show. fingers crossed 😁 Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
easiertorun03 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 5 minutes ago, thigolpbr said: El video era privado en Channel Freemont y tengo una teoría al respecto: Hace unos dos meses me comuniqué con Fredmont sobre este programa y me dijeron que no había nada más solo "BTH, POA y PPC" y tuvimos esta maravillosa sorpresa que tomó a todos por sorpresa. Vale recordar que tenemos un vídeo de muestra con algunas otras canciones compartido hace unos años https://youtu.be/iZ7VGN8YDvg?si=StbLJRfmxyDiPDqq quien también vino de Freemonts. Lo que pienso es que tal vez tengan las otras canciones y las actualizarán pronto y como hicieron este video privado, creo que pueden surgir más cosas de este programa. dedos cruzados 😁 I'm here connected to my cell phone, waiting for new news about the full show to arrive, I'm really looking forward to it being published as soon as possible Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3bebuilder Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Hopefully they do post an update and that they didn’t get contacted by LP to take it down (which I doubt but hopefully that’s not the case) Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLStaff Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 One thing is for sure - judging by the reactions to this on social media and the forums, people love seeing stuff like this. They need something where they can release older shows slowly throughout the years. One or two shows per year. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
easiertorun03 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 10 minutes ago, LPLStaff said: Una cosa es segura: a juzgar por las reacciones en las redes sociales y en los foros, a la gente le encanta ver cosas como esta. Necesitan algo donde puedan lanzar programas más antiguos lentamente a lo largo de los años. Uno o dos espectáculos al año. True, the videos were not recorded to be used as decorations. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thigolpbr Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 13 minutes ago, LPLStaff said: One thing is for sure - judging by the reactions to this on social media and the forums, people love seeing stuff like this. They need something where they can release older shows slowly throughout the years. One or two shows per year. that would be perfect. they need to consider this. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuMetalLover Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) This is great material of LP 2003 Tour history! But speaking of AI... in my opinion AI ruined the quality of the video instead of enhancing it makes it more cartoon-ish. If you know what I mean. It'd be great to get original material one day. Basically looks like a crap. I would prefer much more original low res quality then that: Edited January 9 by radq Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodbath Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Maybe, and just maybe, that Mike's whish to have a live recordings archive centralized somewhere might be our chance to see some mighty shows, like Tokyo 06, that doesn't completely fit in one era, and cannot be included on a boxset. Wishful thinking. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thigolpbr Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 11 minutes ago, bloodbath said: Maybe, and just maybe, that Mike's whish to have a live recordings archive centralized somewhere might be our chance to see some mighty shows, like Tokyo 06, that doesn't completely fit in one era, and cannot be included on a boxset. Wishful thinking. The PR02, LPU03 AND Japan 2006 shows are my favorite LP SHOWS ever. However, this one about the smokeout, since the videos of the 3 songs were leaked 14 or 15 years ago, I imagined what the other songs would be like. and we have this update of 5 more songs from this show. It's a great start to the year when it comes to being an old LP fan. I hope that Mike, together with the record company, can release some of these old shows for fans to enjoy and go back to the past. fans would love this kind of stuff Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodbath Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 13 hours ago, thigolpbr said: The PR02, LPU03 AND Japan 2006 shows are my favorite LP SHOWS ever. However, this one about the smokeout, since the videos of the 3 songs were leaked 14 or 15 years ago, I imagined what the other songs would be like. and we have this update of 5 more songs from this show. It's a great start to the year when it comes to being an old LP fan. I hope that Mike, together with the record company, can release some of these old shows for fans to enjoy and go back to the past. fans would love this kind of stuff They're not going to lose tons of money if they release a live archive for free. Normal and not hardcore fans doesn't care for one specific performance like us, give them some unreleased studio tracks and it will blow away streaming services, like it happened with Lost. But "In the End (Live at Summer Sonic 2006)" isn't going to have 16 million streams in Spotify, for sure. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/15227-new-smoke-out-2003-footage-released/page/2/#findComment-323157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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